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  2. Perfect Vision

    Trade Whispers - Starting Pitchers

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  3. Jack Parkman

    Foodies: Sox/Giolito discussing an extension?????

    That's a really good point.
  4. fathom

    Trade Whispers - Starting Pitchers

    Profar is better than LaStella though. He gives you huge defensive flexibility while being a switch hitter and is still in his prime.
  5. bmags

    Trade Whispers - Starting Pitchers

    Sox should look at a piggy back of Jimmy Nelson/Cahill. Nelson has a 60% likelihood of not pitching but should he be healthy and you have a full rotation, he can move to bullpen.
  6. flavum

    Hank Aaron Passes Away, was 86.

    Some great tributes to Hank today. The real Home Run King.
  7. SoCalChiSox

    Trade Whispers - Starting Pitchers

    The unspoken assumption is that because of Profar's contract, La Stella is no longer financially viable for us, probably due more to term rather than price, which is why trading for the LHH depth piece is now in the scenario he put out re: trading Madrigal rather than signing one. This is why it sucked losing Q at a cheap price. Just keep the prospects and Madrigal. Just forget it. Give Richards his 8m or whatever, keep the other 7m for absorbing salary at the deadline and keep the powder dry on other assets so we can see what we need at the deadline.
  8. macsandz

    Foodies: Sox/Giolito discussing an extension?????

    If you step back and measure what these dudes "share" they'd lose any legit source in less than a second.
  9. He will be there for at least a little bit unless he signs an extension. The fact the Sox are looking at Nelson Cruz could also mean that any Vaughn extension talks haven't gone well, so they aren't in a hurry to get him here. There would also be a role for Vaughn on this team even if the Sox sign Cruz for a year, especially if they can figure out a way to get him into the corner OF even in a minimal amount.
  10. bmags

    COVID-19/Coronavirus thread

    Illinois separates the LTC doses and the state is only at 40% of their allocation. The LTC is worse, but look at this line from the oak park lead on vaccinations: “As the pool of those eligible to be vaccinated grows, individuals will have to be patient as we methodically work through the state phases and the intricate guidelines within them. this town is 1 mile wide! They are lucky half this town works at a hospital and getting vaccinated through there. They wouldn't be able to vaccinate that many with 4 years time otherwise.
  11. Which is just astounding.
  12. It's irritating enough that people insist on this narrative but even if he was ready, why would it hurt him to mash AAA for a little while? One year (when the guy hasn't even met AA ball yet) isn't a "block" at all. And even if he kills it in AA, people apparently forget that MLB players are better than minor league players. If be struggles in AA or AAA then he won't be here. And that is highly possible. A sure thing is needed for DH, especially if the Sox don’t add a major starter. Panic over one (yet to be proven) year is utterly ridiculous.
  13. ron883

    Foodies: Sox/Giolito discussing an extension?????

    Al's is so full of shit. He literally would have to have a pulse on multiple GMs and multiple agents or players to get all the BS information he spits out.
  14. macsandz

    Foodies: Sox/Giolito discussing an extension?????

    On-going. It's amicable and they both want to get it done.
  15. SonofaRoache

    Foodies: Sox/Giolito discussing an extension?????

    Hahn and the official White Sox twitter account mentioned multiple championships. That is the standard they will be held to, regardless of how long the window is open.
  16. Jack Parkman

    Foodies: Sox/Giolito discussing an extension?????

    Do tell......I trust you over some twitter rando. What can you share without burning your source?
  17. SoCalChiSox

    Foodies: Sox/Giolito discussing an extension?????

    I think if we can get 2 good SPs out of the young group (including Kopech and Cease as well as the younger group that isn't here yet) by 2023, there will be basically no money on the books for SP in 2024 (assuming Keuchels option isn't triggered) so even if Giolito is priced out of our range we could probably afford 1 good FA SP plus one ok SP at that point. Obviously no one can really have 5 good SPs but 3 good ones and 1 OK/middling SP is still prolly good enough to keep the window going.
  18. SonofaRoache

    Foodies: Sox/Giolito discussing an extension?????

    To clarify, I meant getting a top pitcher in return, without the Moncada. I think a desperate team would definitely bite IF it came to that.
  19. macsandz

    Foodies: Sox/Giolito discussing an extension?????

    Wrong. Just wrong again.
  20. southsider2k5

    Foodies: Sox/Giolito discussing an extension?????

    I am sure they have talked, he is probably just trying to use COVID as a wedge to keep the price down. Maybe once all of this clears up, he is going to be willing to pick up the top number a bit.
  21. Squirmin' for Yermin

    Trade Whispers - Starting Pitchers

    I honestly think I'd pick B... Gonzalez shouldn't net Madrigal or Kelley.. And those 3 for Burnes, likely is fair, but it's an awfully high price to pay for a guy with no track record. I'd be wary and pass. Now if you can work around giving Kelley, and instead Stiever or a different HS pitcher, go for it.
  22. Wisebri224

    Foodies: Sox/Giolito discussing an extension?????

    Agreed, but we also can't be naive enough to think that when Jerry won't discuss an extension due to CoVid and is giving out FA budgets in winning time that those days could come in 2022 or 2023. I still say they are going for it in 2021-23, I just won't look beyond then acting like this is going to be a decade long dynasty:)
  23. CaliSoxFanViaSWside

    Foodies: Sox/Giolito discussing an extension?????

    Yup . It's just baseball . I wouldn't call it a White Sox thing per se. The Royals, Nationals,Indians all had relatively short windows recently. Some won it all some didn't. The Astro's and Cubs windows were a little longer and they won it but didn't their Championships come by the 3rd year of their competitive windows ? Dodgers have had a wide open open for a lot of years and finally won it but they are like a machine in scouting , player development and high payroll. Yankees and Red Sox are the same way in the AL . Yanks are still searching for their title while the Red Sox got 3 of them. The Giant's held their window open a while and also got 3 championships.
  24. Wisebri224

    Foodies: Sox/Giolito discussing an extension?????

    You won;t get a Sale package for one year of Gio when Boston got Sale for 3. If you have to go that way, though as you said, it is what it is
  25. southsider2k5

    Foodies: Sox/Giolito discussing an extension?????

    This. its 3 YEARS down the road. They aren't about to shoot themselves in the foot in 21 and 22 when they have designs on winning. Also, it is no surprise he is looking for something closer to market value than some of the extremely discounted deals that others have signed. You are going to have to meet him in the middle to have a chance at this.
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