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The last guy I want to sign is a 32 year old Japanese outfielder whose power won’t translate to the MLB. Hard pass. Let someone else waste money on him.
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One year with the understanding he is the DH. Also, get him out of the 3-spot. Want him 4th behind Eloy or 5th (depending on what they do in the off-season or how they structure the lineup when Robert and Madrigal are up)? That would be fine too.
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Abreu has been making it easy for Ron though in the last 18 months 🤷♂️ People are saying that Abreu “haters“, I don‘t hate him,to say that is ridiculous, are ignoring stats and facts and only bring up RBI and HR. His HR numbers in this juiced ball era aren‘t great either. Solid, but not great. His hitting with RISP is also good, there is no denying that. But the sample size over the past 18 months is big enough that Jose Abreu at this point in his career is a slightly better than league average hitter, which is pretty bad for a 1B, and is a liability defensively. I wouldn‘t mind bringing him back on a 1yr deal at market value (which would be way less than he is making now) to bridge the gap to Vaughn, but extending him for 3yrs at AAVs I‘ve seen thrown around here is insanity.
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Anyone can use examples of success with RHH's . It's just a fact because most players hit RH . It does not mean she s overthinking,You act like everything she said is an absolute when really its just baseball knowledge and common sense. Baseball's design favors jeft handers.
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https://www.milb.com/scores/whitesox/2019-06-24
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Have the White Sox ever started worse pitchers?
lasttriptotulsa replied to vilehoopster's topic in Pale Hose Talk
In 2012 Peavy had a 3.37 ERA, 3.73 FIP, 3.99 xFIP across 219 IP. Accumulated 5.0 rWAR, 4.4 fWAR and made the All Star team. I don't think he really fits here. -
Thank you, "CaliSoxFan..". Although strong arguments can be made that left handed hitters have some distinct advantages, my argument is not based upon that. I wouldn't want an all left handed hitting lineup, anymore than I do an all right handed hitting lineup. Of course, I'd prefer a good all right handed hitting lineup, to a poorly balanced lineup. However, if we are discussing acquisitions, why not try to find someone who could provide "better balance," as you stated? So, what is so important about "balance". A pitcher can more easily find his slot, when facing a lineup consisting of every hitter from the same side of the plate. Having to pitch differently, to each hitter is made more difficult by the adjustments required to effectively deal with a succession of hitters, who bat from opposite sides of the plate. A right handed pitcher may be very effective throwing his breaking pitches to most right handed hitters. If he faces a succession of them, he can more easily get into a good groove, and just try to consistently maintain it. If he has to face a few left handed hitters, he is forced to use a different approach. The challenge of having to make that necessary adjustment simply places an added burden on the pitcher. That is the reason that a manager will try to stagger his lineup, by alternating right and left handed hitters, where possible. It is much easier for an opposing manager to manage his bullpen, if all of your dangerous hitters bat from the same side of the plate. By alternating right and left handed hitters, you force your opponent to consider bringing in different relievers, in order to navigate through the dangerous part of the batting order. Absent that balance, an opposing manager can simply leave a reliever in the game, until he reaches the number of pitches, deemed to be his limit, for that appearance. It appears that almost every position is practically set, for the approaching window of contention. Most of us would be willing to bet that the following players will be starting in 2021: LF Eloy CF Robert 3B Moncada SS Anderson 2B Madrigal 1B Vaughn C Collins and maybe McCann That leaves just DH and RF as major question marks. If the Sox extend Abreu, that leaves only RF as a hole to fill. There are several promising outfield prospects, but it's doubtful that anyone will be ready soon. That's why I agree with "Eminor3rd," who suggested adding Shogo Akiyama, if he elects to come to the U.S. Something like a 3 year deal could be a very good solution to the RF problem. Moreover, he would not likely demand so much money, that it would impede the front office's ability to sign the more needed additional pitching.
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Burger never had the actions for 3B. He was a one dimensional player and a very short sighted pick.
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Ok maybe 15 was too high. But he was def in the top 20 and the best bat still available at our pick.
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Yeah, once Jo Adell went 10 who else were the Sox even in on? Nick Pratto: .170/.269/.238 at A+ J.B. Bukauskas: 5.97 ERA, 69 K, 39 BB in 57.1 IP at AA Evan White: .298/.361/.480 at AA Alex Faedo: 3.41 ERA, 86 K, 12 BB in 71.1 IP at AA Jeren Kendall: .202/.310/.442 at A+ It's easy to go back and criticize the bad body likely first basemen, but it's not like any of these other guys are killing it in the minors other than maybe Faedo.
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Have the White Sox ever started worse pitchers?
caulfield12 replied to vilehoopster's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Parque was absolute toast after the injuries (Mike Cameron game was a highlight), Wright after injuries, James Baldwin really fell off too....Rauch lasted just a handful of starts and really just never got along with KW and was quickly sent packing. Glover really wasn’t THAT bad, actually. But 2003 versions of Wright, Josh Stewart, Porzio and Cotts would have fit in 100% this year. They key difference is the latter three only had TWELVE starts combined, and Cotts at least had the talent to be a key relief contributor in 2005. Can we say the same for any of this year’s starters?...maybe Covey is the only one who could potentially be on a White Sox playoff team in the future. -
What the hell are you talking about ? The Sox lineup is primarily right handed. Most pitchers are RH. Often hitters hit better against the opposite handed pitcher. Righties hit better against lefties and lefties hit better against righties. Not always the case but true much of the time . That is not old timey. It's true unless you meant something else. Therefore the Sox need some left handed hitters to present a more balanced lineup. In particular need a LHH middle of the order bat. LHH also get to 1st base faster on average since they start closer to 1st base. Great job of age discrimination knowing the poster is older and therefore making up some crap about using "old timey" outdated and useless info. https://www.deseretnews.com/article/705314249/Game-of-baseball-seems-tailor-made-for-left-handers.html read this and become knowlegdable
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People will never understand that the success rate of first round draft picks in all of baseball is not great, especially outside of the top 5. Look at the draft history of other franchises and the Sox picks start to look pretty good.
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This is how my office works. With young kids, the flexibility is necessary. There's a lot of other crap we put up with, but micromanaging isn't one of them.
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Imagine for a moment being such an utterly miserable human being as to only be able to take pleasure from continuously trolling a white sox fan board about 2/17 slumps Jose Abreu is having, only to immediately duck for cover when he gets hot. i know, I can’t really imagine it either. It’s despicable and sickening behavior.
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Burger was a fine selection where he was taken. I would have gone with a prep most likely but he was absolutely in that range. Some ridiculousness in this thread.
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You realize everybody had him as a top 15 prospect at the time of the draft right? Everybody said he doesn't look pretty but gets the job done at 3b. It wasn't just Hostetler who liked him. He was also the top bat at our pick. Gotta love the revisionist history here.
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Face it, Greg. There are Abreu haters on this board that will never change their mind regardless of facts, data, and pleadings presented to them. It doesn't matter, especially considering we have absolutely no say in whether he stays or goes. All indications are that the Sox like him, and I would expect him to be around for at least one more year to allow Vaughn to get here. Personally, I'd be fine with 2-3 more years. He still delivers offensively and would be a great mentor for Vaughn; he's already shown to be a great mentor and leader. He's on pace to hit 30+ HRs and drive in over 100 runs. His BA is lower than it has been historically, but he's been streaky this year. I still expect him to hit .260+. I get checking advanced stats, but living by advanced stats alone and ignoring traditional ones is no way to value a player.
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Yeah I would bet on it being picked up. They need his innings, even if he's a back-end starter.
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Every accounting/finance job I've had so far was really flexible. Last job I had, my department's boss was so cool. Some people came in at 6:30 every day to leave at 3. Some were not morning people and came in at 10 and worked until 6:30/7. They didn't care when you came in as long as you were there 8.5 hours (including the hour lunch break) and got your work done.
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At least this year the negativity is warranted. Unlike the last 3-4 years you've posted negatively about him.
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So basically the answer to this question is: they have nothing in common with each other.
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Thanks. You answered my original question. There will be no correlation between what the Bulls do next month in Free Agency and the White Sox next winter as far as spending money.
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I've never understood that sort of "set schedule" mentality in most jobs outside of retail or places with set "open" hours. I mean, when it comes to a job where an office or store is only open certain hours, it makes sense you'd have to be there during those hours -- but for other jobs where there is no official "open/close" time, I don't get the point of micro managing people. The bottom line is, are they getting their work done? If yes, then leave them alone. If not, okay, there is a discussion to be had and expectations to be reset. One of the advantages (and disadvantages) of IT work is for most jobs, there doesn't tend to be a start/stop time. It's an advantage in that you tend to come and go as you please, so long as the work is done, however, on the downside, it could potentially mean working long off hours during times of maintenance, etc.
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Waiting on Jimmy Lambert news.
