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Moncada was also the fifth Sox player 23 or younger to have 30+ doubles, 15+ homers, 60+ RBIs (and first with 10+ stolen bases) in a single season. The other 4... Chet Lemon, Frank Thomas, Paul Konerko and Carlos Lee. Pretty good company. Positivity over here.

If this team hits the time when their lease runs out, under new ownership, and it has been 20 years of them losing and they're drawing worse than the A's, and the entire generation under 20 has known the White Sox as losers they don't care about, then it could darn well happen and that will be the final legacy of Rick Hahn. So...he better darn well win something with the guys he traded for, because if he didn't, if things in 2 years look as rough as they do now, that's where this franchise will be in 7-10 years, talking about moving because they no longer have a fanbase after such an incredible streak of losing.

The Sox are never leaving Chicago. Jesus Christ that's the lamest go to line for those who are unhappy with the current state of events.. it's so damn cringe.

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/24838260/chicago-white-sox-batters-break-single-season-strikeout-record No team in major league history struck out more times than the 2018 Chicago White Sox. The White Sox set a single-season record Saturday night for the most times their batters have struck out when Minnesota Twins starter Kyle Gibson fanned Yoan Moncada and Yolmer Sanchez to lead off the game. It was fitting that Moncada was involved in tying the mark -- the 23-year-old leads the majors in whiffing 216 times this season.

I guess asking for a "winning" percentage of .292 was asking for too much from this collection of losers. So we played .250 ball for virtually the whole month of September. A fitting end to the season, since we played .250 ball to start the year. Several people mentioned that Moncada improved his numbers in September, but that was dismissed by others as coming against other teams' garbage (September call-ups). I guess if you play .250 ball in September (as the Sox did), that must mean that their garbage is better than our garbage.

I agree . But he also played 54 games last year and had his struggles. He should have learned something last year and worked harder in the offseason.

Too bad Hawk isn’t ending his career today. He could have yelled “history” like when Sever won his 300th and Buehrle had his perfect game, every time the Sox whiffed.

It is amazing how when you put a bad team on the field, bad things happen.

Yes, this team is a joke. 2019 will be worse than 18 unless they make massive changes. Fire Hahn, KW, Renteria, Coop (great coach but statement needs made), trainers, to start. Sign a real GM who can build his own staff. There's some minor league depth , but many are injured/not ready. It really wouldnt be hard to make this team competitive of they signed decent free agents , made some trades as 50% of the teams are in rebuild mode. We will have another top 5 pick, And lots of $ to spend. No excuse not to be in 2nd place next year, and oh yeah, the Hahn era has cost the Sox billions in revenue from ticket/merchandise sales and radio/tv deals due to lack of interest in a shit team

I would like to congratulate Rick Hahn on his 5th consecutive 4th place finish in the AL Central. His first season as a GM they finished 5th, but you could probably blame that on injuries to Jeff Keppinger. the AL Central, not exactly a who’s who of $150 million payrolls, and in 6 seasons, 4th out of 5 is the best he can do..

Your ceiling is assistant fries clerk at Checker.

I don't give two shits about meaningless win totals. I want the #3 pick.

Literally no one on this team of professional players will differentiate losing 99 vs 100 games. The tank should be back on and we need the #3 pick.

Exactly. Here everyone is like "Hahn won't be around in 2020 if...." but they fail to realize Hahn is doing exactly what he said he would do. There's no way in hell he gets fired.

He even said ahead of this year that it would be the worst year of the rebuild. He was right. Go figure.

It gets old trying to read this forum for unique content only to come across the same old crap for pages: Jack Parkman defending his negative sports view and everyone else debating him on it. Jacktalk.com it is, I guess. Go Bears.

I don't think the White Sox will lose 100 next year, but the demands of some posters here are downright stupid. Hahn said this was the bottom. You all promised you would be smarter.

Forbes Magazine said the White Sox are 14th in revenue. As long as that continues the team is staying in Chicago. This 100 loss team is making nothing but money for the owners.

And there it is. The 2nd to worst season in my lifetime. The 4th time the Sox have lost 100 games in Sox history.

Well I enjoyed my first proper season watching the Sox , it can only get better , onwards and upwards 2019 See you next season guys , all the best

Fitting end to an absolute miserable season........new hitting coach needs to be discussed by Sox management, way too many strikeouts.

Perhaps we can win this one after all.

Did he sleep with your mom?

By that chart, it looks like the Cardinals have more marketshare in the Chicagoland area than the Sox.

Good luck getting anything of value for either, as both are coming off bad seasons. Abreu's market wasn't that great before his 2018 season. Now it would probably be non-existent. Most teams view him as a DH. Nobody really needs one in the AL anyway.

Because OUTRAGE! BURN IT ALL DOWN!

It’s all peculiar. If you get caught in a lie during an interview to make French fries at McDonalds, you are eliminated from consideration. Consistently lying during a Supreme Court process, no big deal. Lie and yell. It’s the new way. now Kenyannesays she was sexually assaulted. Did she or her loving parents report it to the police?

In fact that calendar has a very interesting event on July 1, 1982 that matches up nearly perfectly with what Blasey-Ford described. The prosecutor Republicans brought in to question both parties thought it interesting enough to question Kavanaugh about. Oddly enough, when she started that line of questioning was exactly when Lindsey Graham had his little tirade, and the committee never went back to her after that to finish her line of questioning. Isn't that all very peculiar?

And Narvaez may be able to hit, albeit with little power, and Covey might be a fifth starter or something. But no cornerstone players, and we'll need 5 or 6.

That's why the coaching staff needs to go. No one has improved under steverson/sparks or even Don Cooper. Need fresh ideas. Time to move on

God is good

Her friend doesn’t remember and also says she believes Ford. Judge doesn’t remember and nobody wants him to testify. So no. And I think you are grasping at straws in drawing conclusions about memory and trauma without some support. And the “failure to report” argument is so weak. She did tell her therapist that the perpetrator was a federal judge. Anyway, you don’t believe her. Fine. It’s fine to believe Kavanaugh is a liar (because he is) but that he isn’t lying about this incident. Of course that should still eliminate him from the nomination.

Thank you for reminding us all of the horrible built-in disadvantage the Sox have of playing in Chicago. It’s utterly amazing how they manage to even survive sometimes.

There is some evidence. She passed a polygraph which seemed to be good enough for Kavanaugh when he was writing opinions. She told friends and therapists well before he was considered for the Supreme Court. Kavanaugh has lied about his drinking. Lied about the meanings of phrases in his yearbook. Why? The problem with this investigation is the public is only going to see what Trump wants us to see. So if anything comes up, the nomination will be quietly withdrawn. I really am interested in seeing results of the testing of his calendar. Supposedly they can determine how old the ink is on each entry. If he fucked with that anytime since 1982; that may be a problem for him if it ever got out. i do think nothing will come of it because while they are conducting an investigation, it is partisan investigation. I think the level it would have to get to in a week for Trump to pull him isn’t really possible. But I believe the woman. I know for a fact Kavanaugh lied about other things during his testimony. If he were running for Mayor of Oswego, I might let it slide. But not the Supreme Court, especially when he shows such disgust with democrats. A clip was shown yesterday during his confirmation for his current job. He stressed how important it was for a judge to remain independent. Clearly what comes out of his mouth and what really happens are 2 different things. if he is lying about the small stuff, believing him about the big stuff just because he votes for Republicans is pretty foolish IMO.

Her testimony is evidence. Stop saying there isn’t evidence. You have two people giving testimony; one lying, one not. In weighing veracity you look at demeanor and truthfulness throughout. Leaving aside the matter at hand, he lied under oath about drinking habits, at the very least, based on third party witnesses and evaded questions which was shown in a Vox analysis. She didn’t do either. This isn’t a hard call. Also, the committee refused to take other testimony so pointing to a lack of evidence is a dubious argument.

First of all, there isn't any evidence she was a victim you may believe she was but your beliefs do not constitute facts. Two, she was asked about the way in which she reported the assault at no point did she mention wanting to goto the police and file a report. In any case it appears there will be an FBI investigation so we shall see. I doubt anything comes of it unless someone comes forward with new testimony or information.

This x100000. One day I was writing about the death of the tank and now I feel like its the death of the rebuild. At the time I was writing about the death of the tank Kopech came up. Rodon , Giolito and Lopez were coming around and the Sox were playing .500 ball for a long stretch.all with a lineup that wasn't very good offensively and defensively. Now Kopech is out for a year Rodon and Giolito have sucked lately and the whole team looks tired and as uninspired we we all do here.

So it's Trout of bust in 2021 because that FA class isn't exactly brimming with superstars. It's this winter or next looking at it realistic. If you do nothing this year you better make damn sure you get what you want in 2020 and that just make the odds even worse. I have been saying that forever. Like Hahn said you have no control over when these guys become available . You wait too long and you miss the boat. The Sox have 2 years to get rid of a high K, low OBP bad defense ,bad starting and relief pitching team and everyone wonders why there's so many pessimistic posts. When either Tim Anderson or Palka is your team MVP you have a shit ton of work to do. Then you see posts like we need better defensive pitchers. Yea we do but lets put that like 20th on the list of what we need like way behind pitchers who can actually pitch. Some times I wonder how smart our fans really are.

I wasn't caught misrembering anything she mentioned a specific date in her accusation period when she revised her statement which I was unaware of she once again mentioned a specific date. You seem think somehow attacking me makes Ford claims more credible. It doesn't. As far as the rest goes once again the media reported the state did not have a statue of limitations and numerous journalists including Meadow said he could goto jail. If they are wrong then that is unfortunate but that is not my fault I'm not a lawyer I'm only repeating the details I've read elsewhere from mainstream sources but even if the article you posted from the WP is true it still doesn't remove the fundamental question of why she didn't goto the police because she would have been unaware of that nuance in existing law. She made no mention of this in her testimony either infact her statements were the exact opposite of what I was sort of expecting a victim to say she said she went to the media to and her congresswoman to stop Brett Kavanaugh getting to the SC which sounds great at first blush but once you think about it why was that the goal? Shouldn't it been to get justice? Bringing it back to the actual subject the ladies claim once again the facts haven't changed. She can't name the time, can't name the place, can't name all the people involved, can't remember how she got to the event or how she got back. Has changed the timeframe by close to a decade at points and her claims have been refuted by everyone else who she claims to have been involved. Those are the facts whether someone believes miss ford, believes the mumbo jumbo you spouting earlier, doesn't believe kavanaugh, it shouldn't and doesn't matter. We cannot allow accusations without evidence to ruin political careers or destroy people lives that is a return to some of the darkest chapters of American history like McCarthyism.

Like Merrick Garland? The GOP simply makes up their own rules as they go along...

The few bright spots: Jimenez is as good as advertised Cease was able to increase his innings, dominate, and stay off the DL Luis Gonzalez and Luis Basabe look like decent prospects Lopez looks, at the very least, like a decent back end of the rotation starter, with the potential to be a mid-rotation guy. Palka looks like he could be something. What, I don't know. All of the crap that happened this year: Kopech TJS Burger lost a year and a half of development time to injuries Hansen got injured and looks more like his senior season at OU rather than the guy who led the minors in strikeouts in 2017 Dunning had an elbow injury that has a non-zero chance to end with TJS in ST 2019 Robert missed the majority of the season with injuries, and hit 0 HR in 6 weeks of game action Rutherford still doesn't have any power They spent the 4th overall pick on Madrigal, who might be nothing more than a glorified singles hitter Zack Collins isn't a catcher, which probably makes him a fringe prospect at best. Not good for a 10th pick overall. Zack Burdi came back from TJS throwing 93-95 instead of hovering around triple digits. Not good for his future prospects to be an MLB pitcher Giolito looks like a bust at this point...I had really high hopes for him this season, but at some point you have to call a spade a spade Moncada is a huge question mark at best, and could be on his way to joining Giolito in the bust category. The same comment about Giolito could be said here. Avi looked more like the 2016 version Abreu had the worst season of his career For the majority of the season James Shields was the Sox best starter. All of the minor league bullpen arms that looked promising came up and got torched. (Hamiliton, Burr, Vieira) At this point, 2020 looks like a pipedream at best, and while it is too early to write the whole thing off as a failure, if things stay the same in 2019 you seriously have to consider an organizational housecleaning. In conclusion, it seems like in the most likely scenario we end up right back where we were in 2016 with about 4-5 decent players and a bunch of crap, maxing out at 75-78 wins, but without the benefit of the great contracts that made this "talent" acquirable. I don't think the Cubs or Astros minor league talent as a whole ever looked this questionable. We all thought we were going to see the golden age of White Sox baseball coming up. Now it looks horrible. They're losing around 100 games with no end in sight.

OP is Hahn

What's "awful" about a .391 OBP, 34 home runs, and a 133 wRC+?

Pay me a GM's salary and I'll lay one out. If you think this is going well, then I admire your optimism, stamina and loyalty.

How can it come back any differently? She can't name the time. Can't name the place. Can't name the people. The people who she does name don't remember it happening including her own personal friends. Meanwhile Kavanaugh has detailed notes of where and who he was with during the summer including possible corroboration should the timing of this alleged party ever be revealed.

I know what a successful rebuild looks like. This ain't it. Last time they were trying to put a bunch of free agents around 3 quality players: Sale, Q and Eaton. Now they would do it around...what exactly? A few players who may turn out to be good. Both premature.

I'm in the I'll believe it when I see it camp. I think the chance we sign one of the top free agents is close to zero.

I literally cannot believe some think it is more important to win 63 games than to get the #3 instead of potentially the #5 or #6 pick. The difference between the #3 and the #6 pick could be a world championship. 100 losses will never be remembered if the Sox get a world series title because of it.

I don’t get this type of thinking... The goal should be to get the highest draft pick possible, so that the Sox can get the best possible players during the draft. The same people who are rooting for the Sox to win these truly meaningless games are the same people who are going to be mad that the Sox for missing out on (Insert Player Here). And there’s a big difference between having the third worst record and the fifth worst record. That affects how much money you have to spend on amateur players in the draft and on J2. And to suggest that the number of losses is indicative of the progress of the rebuild in absolutely insane. What’s so hard to understand about this process?

MLB players have sat out game 162 instead of risking their exactly .300 BA going to .299. Professional players are human too, and almost all humans love milestones.