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  1. Twas the night before Machado, when all through the thread; Not a poster was stirring, they'd all gone to bed. Bob Nightengale with his smoke and the local news stations; Had prepped all us Sox fans for more negotiations. When out of the blue there arose such a clatter. I went straight to my news feed to see what was the matter. I searched for Machado and sorted by top. Excited and nervous to see what would drop. When to my wondering eyes did appear? But $250 million for a term of eight years! With a crafty, young GM so lively and quick; I knew in a moment he must be Saint Rick. A wink of his eye and a twist of his head, Soon gave me to know I had nothing to dread. He spoke not a word but went straight to work. And as the contract was signed, he gave me a smirk. He sprang back to the Rate, to his team gave a whistle. And away they all flew like the down of a thistle. But I heard him exclaim as he drove out of sight; Merry Machado to all, and to all a good night!
    16 points
  2. Nightengale, Merkin, DVS, Garfein, Levine, a few hours from now: Per a source, the White Sox are NOT putting a full court press on for Machado, nor do they have any edge. Their pursuit has been described as a "half court press", or by some, as little as a 2-3 zone.
    13 points
  3. Just wait until Passan tweets out "The White Sox and Machado has agreed in principle to an 8 year deal" and then Nightengale fires back with "No deal has been reached yet". We will all lose our shit.
    12 points
  4. I see it's time to dunk on Rick Hahn because of some conflincting tweets, and guess what? I saw Rick Hahn at a grocery store today. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him about the ongoing Manny Machado negotiations. He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?” I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying. The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter. When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.
    12 points
  5. For anyone who is struggling with sanity, keep these points in mind: - Huge contracts take a TON of negotiating. And the degree of contract we're talking about here is almost unprecedented in this sport. - In said negotiations, it is the JOB of agents on one side and billion dollar organizations on the other to work out the terms that are most beneficial to them, regardless of how long that takes. - People involved in these negotiations make a LOT of money because they have negotiating skills the average person doesn't have, and the temperament to let things play out. (i.e., the casual fans who thinks they could be a GM really don't have the stomach for it.) - If either the agent or the braintrust of the organization lets the stress level of a bunch of idiots in a discussion forum affect their decisions and/or timing, they should be fired. - In this day and age social media is ubiquitous and is used as one of many negotiation tools. - Social media is ONLY used as a negotiation tool BECAUSE a significant number of people pay attention to it. If no one paid attention, all the social media agent vs. org BS would eventually evaporate. - This could be done tonight or it could take another month. - It is totally in your power to turn the computer off. Your choice.
    9 points
  6. There really is no need for this. The 50s called and they wanted to pass on that using females as a way to insult men died with them.
    8 points
  7. I have never realized how big of pussies Sox fans can be. Every neutral piece of information is met by people panicking and expecting the worst.
    8 points
  8. If Manny Machado (Or Bryce Harper) is a 5 win player for the next 6 years, that is better money than the white sox have spent in the free agent market this decade. If the headline number scares you, you wind up with Melky Cabrera and Adam LaRoche.
    7 points
  9. The guy isn't here any more, why are we posting his tweets and making fun of him in a Machado thread? Give me a break. This doesn't help with board quality.
    7 points
  10. The "Sox are pissing off fans by negotiating" takes are laughable.
    6 points
  11. Let’s do 9/$300M and call it a day.
    6 points
  12. LOL, they couldn't sign Jesse Chavez, but now are going to sign Harper/Machado. Okay bud, I'll have whatever that cat is smoking.
    6 points
  13. Guys, The Sandlot is on MLB Network right now. Take a break and enjoy baseball for a bit. Back to the grind tomorrow, unless something breaks late night.
    5 points
  14. Because the sky is always falling.
    5 points
  15. Imagine in 200 years when our distant relatives find the relics of this thread. It will be studied for years as the fall of mankind's ability to reason.
    5 points
  16. If Machado signs with another team and there ends up being reason to be mad at the Sox for how they handled it, I'll be mad.... But predicting that the fanbase will revolt because Scott Merkin and Levine and others are tweeting out leaks from the Sox is silly. The Sox should not care or adjust their strategy to make the nerds at SoxMachine and a couple hundred idiots like us on the internet happy.
    5 points
  17. Wow, dude. I thought I was casually being a dick when I posted the Tatis batflip video. This is like Ron Jeremy level dickage.
    5 points
  18. When you have an owner who is well known for being cheap and valuing image and loyalty over winning, that's what happens. Its years of frustration boiling over, not this one negotiation
    5 points
  19. Merk: "Kenny literally every chicago writer has tweeted out the 7 years i think they get the point" KW: "You got twitter ready?" Merk: "This isn't nec-" KW: "what's happening? per VERY HIGH DISTINGUISHED SOURCE the white sox offer does note exceed 7 years" Merk: "Can I at least get a dollar range to differentiate?" KW:" can i at weast get the dowwar wange SEND TWEET MERK"
    5 points
  20. Yes I did. Everyone is radio silent today. Weird. When I went to bed last night everything was going like I was told it would. Even Merkin was speaking in past tense But remember what I said today Reinsdorf is now involved. And I would expect he’s at the Governor’s inauguration which means that any hiccups can’t be dealt with. I’ll keep trying to get information.
    5 points
  21. Pay attention to the wording. This standoff over what "offer" is on the table could well be a lot of lawyer speak from both sides. We know the Sox put a formal 7 year offer on the table. If the 8/250 was a verbal offer, or something that was floated in discussions it is 100% true to say that they have not revised the original offer, as that took a different, and more formal, form. In a situation like this, technically both sides would be right. The original offer would not have been revised, but another less formal offer could be out there.
    5 points
  22. 5 points
  23. He who will remain nameless is still being the judge, jury, and executioner when it comes to having sources lol
    5 points
  24. Soxfest if we don't sign either...
    4 points
  25. Maybe the Tim Anderson to catcher idea isn't so far fetched after all??? Clearly Manny will be playing SS and Tim will be at catcher.
    4 points
  26. Just to show you guys how ridiculous this entire process is, here’s a quote from Rick Hahn at the Jon Jay presser just last week: Here are five tweets in the last 24 hours:
    4 points
  27. Get off your high horse. I have been a member since Summer 2005. You are judging fans based on posting on game threads?!?! I am a season ticket holder and I am sorry I don't post on SoxTalk all the time. I know that wasn't personally directed at me, but I am part of the few. I have faith, as a fan, in Kenny and Rick. As many faults Kenny has, he did win a World Series. Jury is still out on Rick, but the returns on Q, Sale, and Eaton were top notch and not many, if anyone, was upset with them. You want to play Monday morning quarterback, wait til the signings happen.
    4 points
  28. I'd prefer to get pissed off because none of this fits my own personal timeline.
    4 points
  29. Totally agree. It's the same but not even close to the same thing at all
    4 points
  30. And thus concludes the most annoying day since yesterday.
    4 points
  31. I really loathe this "public negotiations are insulting to faaaans" train of thought. I wish we could elevate our discourse back to the days of wondering which potential city has a better atmosphere for marital infidelity and getting away with murder.
    4 points
  32. Ok yeah sign any time now machado I think we have hit peak offseason.
    4 points
  33. They want to refute it strongly because if a team does try and beat their offer, the Sox would rather have a team push up against a 7/200 offer rather than an 8/250. When that call from Lozano comes and says "X team went past your offer, will you beat theirs?" you dont want their offer to be artificially inflated from the start. It just makes more ground for you to have to cover to get back to being the top offer
    4 points
  34. If 7/200 is the highest they go, I see no reason for this fan base to support the organization anymore in all honesty.
    4 points
  35. Because many folks on this board have a massive Cubs inferiority complex.
    4 points
  36. Not a good enough reason to subject myself to kap
    4 points
  37. I don’t buy any of the Alonso and Jay help us now w/ or w/out Machado. No way we stunt the rebuild with those two and no Manny. Those two were brought in with Machado already in tow. We are secretly working on Bryce to complete the daily double. We won’t announce Manny because it hurts Bryce’s negotiation and keeps Phillies occupied with both versus fully focusing on Bryce. But it appears word leaked to Phils and they put on full court press on Bryce and Sox frustrated as a result. So Sox are playing the confusion game having various people throw out all sorts of Manny rumors and keeping Phils at least mildly involved w Manny. yes, Rick and Kenny are geniuses.
    3 points
  38. Only dispute your last point. I'm a junkie now and powerless to turn off this forum.
    3 points
  39. pro sports handicapper with 37k followers tweeted the below. `
    3 points
  40. First time signing in. I am NOT a jump on the bandwagon guy. I have been a Sox fan since 1956. I hate the Scrubs. So, hopefully I fit right in? I knew every player and number on the Sox in the late 50's and early 60's. Still know the players now, but not always the numbers. I consider myself a knowledgeable Sox fan, but am impressed with some of the knowledge of the fans on this site. Hope I can keep up? I have been monitoring the site for a few weeks now, especially since the Machado/Harper saga got into high gear. I have to say I have mixed emotions about signing Machado. I was on the sign Machado and/or Harper movement way back to LAST off season. But, now, with all this delay, and rumors and "leaks" and all the other aspects of these "negotiations" I am getting turned off. I actually have backed myself into a corner. If we sign one or both, fine. If we don't sign either I will be both relieved and pissed. If we low ball the offers and end up pissing Machado off and come up empty and looking like fools because the Scrubs sneak in and sign one of them, or he takes a much smaller offer from his beloved Yankees I will be super pissed off. It will be the same old cheap cheap of the organization. But looking at it from another perspective, maybe Machado does NOT want to come to the Sox? Our record since 2008 hardly inspires confidence that we will turn it around. Our showing so far from our "prospects" does not inspire confidence either. So maybe he and Lozano are just using us. I don't like my team to embarrass me. Hahn and KW have sort of put us in a can't win situation. After all this "hype" we come up empty? And Machado never wanted to come here anyway and our beloved FO put us up for the world to see as fools? Seems like we can't win...we don't get either whale, as you all call them, and look like fools, or we overpay. I hope Hahn and KW are smarter than this and have a winning plan in place and we do sign a whale. But with this dragging on and on and on, I am getting frustrated. Sorry for rambling on, but this is just how I feel right now. Very frustrated with this whole process and hoping that Hahn and KW know what they are doing.
    3 points
  41. Micker is going to be a monster. I'm on that train so hard. Keith Law loves him. I'd more dangle Luis Gonzalez/Rutherford as alternatives.
    3 points
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