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Andrew Vaughn = Paul Konerko CJ Abrams = Micah Johnson ....or Ozzie Guillen Like, that's really the extent of the talent evaluation you just did.

Can we DFA ricky Renteria?

Hahn should wear a ski mask when he collects his paycheck.

Feel free to express your opinion, just be prepared for it to be called out when it's incredibly lazy. @bmags has very rightfully called me out for saying I thought Trae Young would bomb in the NBA. Your comparison of Vaughn to Collins and Burger seems to be limited to "can get on base and has power." It also appears that you just took two names White Sox fans would know at random, hence why I picked Micah Johnson and Ozzie Guillen. Let's go with Collins first. A left-handed, true outcome catcher with defensive question marks, good size. In college, his walks and strikeouts were fairly even. Grades: Hit: 50 | Power: 55 | Run: 30 | Arm: 45 | Field: 40 | Overall: 55 Now, Vaughn. A right-handed, advanced hit tool, undersized first baseman who fields his position well. Walks far more than he strikes out. Has ungodly OBP. Hit: 60 | Power: 60 | Run: 30 | Arm: 50 | Field: 50 | Overall: 60 Similarities: Slow runners, raw power, can draw walks. Differences: Positions, handedness, fielding capabilities, hitting abilities, strikeout rates, level of raw power, OBP (Vaughn's is absurd). Let's add Burger in. A right-handed third baseman, was named Gold Glover in his final college season. Pre-injury had decent enough speed for his size. Grades: Hit: 50 | Power: 55 | Run: 50 | Arm: 55 | Field: 50 | Overall: 55 Similarities: Right-handed hitters, raw power, can field their position well Differences: Position, speed (at the time, unclear how Burger has recovered), power levels, OBP (again, Vaughn's is stupid good), hit tool. Well, Micah Johnson had an 80 run tool and was blindingly fast. He played middle infield for the Chicago White Sox. That's essentially the depth of the analysis we were provided with Jake Burger and Zack Collins for Andrew Vaughn. So then you went and threw out Fernando Tatis Jr. as a comp for Abrams, which makes no sense in his present state. I've looked at film. But let's also look at grades of all three aforementioned players. Tatis: Hit: 60 | Power: 60 | Run: 60 | Arm: 60 | Field: 55 | Overall: 70 Abrams: Hit: 55 | Power: 40 | Run: 75 | Arm: 55 | Field: 50 | Overall: 60 Johnson: Hit: 55 | Power: 35 | Run: 80 | Arm: 50 | Field: 50 | Overall: 50 So Tatis comes in with far more power, whereas Abrams calling card is speed, much like Johnson. Tatis is a true shortstop, while we've already seen discussion about how Abrams might not stick at short. That sounds more Johnson than Tatis. So we've got a speed burner that might not stick at his position. Edit: If I were drafting, I might take Abrams over Vaughn, but that's because the Sox are in dire need of some non-1B/DH talent in addition to a "next wave" of prospects and I'd stupidly draft for need.

Love our White Sox. Many teams play to win divisions. The Sox play for one day on the calendar, draft day.

We should just DFA him. He had some use when he was briefly walking more than he was striking out, but it seems that's over now.

Castillo really spraying it to all infielders in this one - impressive

We signed him 14 years ago. Maybe he wanted to retire as a White Sox.

Why do we continue to bat our worst hitters back to back

Yeah the 1,079 people in attendance will boo him out of the park

I'm being sarcastic. I don't care what they look like. The guy sucks. I would have rather seen Hahn donate his $9 million dollar salary to White Sox charities.

GIDP for Guerrero. 6-38. It's nice watching someone else's prospects come up and blow. We're not alone, guys!

Exactly. Never understood the hate for that guy. He made just 30 starts with the Sox and put up 4.8 fWAR, what the hell more do people want from the guy?

Edwin Jackson was actually pretty good for the Sox. 11-9 wit a 3.66 ERA and 3.22 FIP. 174 Ks to 57 walks.

Generally speaking, when you remove a team's top 5 prospects, the farm system is going to look pretty bad.

Even though he hasn't been putting up great numbers he still looks much better to me than he did throughout last year.

Couldn't be a pulled muscle since he doesn't have any

Covey vs. Bucholz in Canada. I think there will be some runs scored in this affair. Let's strive mightily to win 2/3 or sweep this weekend.

They need to really hope Cease, Kopech, Madrigal, and Robert are above average. We are going to have to spend a ton of money on pitching.

I swear if he puts Alonso back at cleanup tomorrow behind Abreu...

Bust. Superstar prospects don’t struggle like that when called up and produce right away.

More along my thinking.

After Rick is done massaging Reinsdorf's back, he just takes his pay cut out of Jerry's wallet.

Nicky wasn't even close on those. Same shitty swing three times over. Garbage player.

Go the fuck away Alonso...

Rutschman. Talents at a premium position that become available to you don't come around all that often.

Renteria is a Tank Manager. Like like a lot of these pitchers are innings-eaters. In that respect, they do their jobs well. This is what ownership wants.

Besides Lopez/Giolito, Cease could be the only guy that can get out of the 1st without getting bombed, and even Lopez/Giolito have games where they get bombed in the 1st inning. The bullpen is gonna be dead by July.

He’s another example of a starter being bad at pitching

I just don't understand how this works What's the point of Dylan Covey pitching? Can't we try a young guy? or some veteran off waivers? It's like a clinic on how to play meaningless players that are neither good nor wanted by other teams. I don't get baseball sometimes.

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What difference does it make? Hahn can't draft either.

For a poster with your post count, you are...well...Not a very good poster.

Let's hope the Sox get one of Ruschtman, Witt, or Vaughn.

Him and Alonso.

Lol, yah I struggled with that one.

Ricky out here with his one dimensional connect 4.

Well one good move is taking Sanchez out of the damn lineup but we still have Alonso hitting clean up

If you like zombies movies/shows it’s worth a watch. It’s got some dumb moments, but that comes with the territory.

Not “great” but by all accounts a 125 wRC+ is certainly “good.” Keep in mind he turns 24 this month. I’d be thrilled with a 125 wRC+ 3b that just turned 24 if he maintains it for the entire season.

I’ll be there. Second row behind the Jays dugout. Hopefully a good game.

Epidural headache? Get a blood patch. Easy. Routine.

Stiever finished with a 7 IP 4 H 1 R 1 ER 0 BB 8 SO line. Sosa and Bush with solid games as well.

Nice. He needs to be in W-S. Same with Pinkleton.

Our boy Stiever pitching well so far. @DirtySox @ChiliIrishHammock24 5 IP 1 H 0 E 0 ER 0 BB 6 SO so far. Only hit was a bunt single.

I've dealt with teaching hospitals before... NEVER AGAIN. Good for Bobby. 👍

But you said they are a dime a dozen. In a bad year, he was the best. Now that he is healthy and swinging well, finding someone like him isn't easy. I sure hope he stole your girlfriend or something. Your constant ragging him is beyond bizarre.

'Twas not I. But he's listed at 6 foot, which obviously isn't big, but that doesn't scream "super tiny" to me. Stroman is only 5'7".

Ok...I'll be Devil's Advocate here. 1st...everybody thought at the time acquiring Giolito, Lopez and Dunning was a ridiculously one-sided score at the time. It's not really Hahn's fault that for some reason Giolito and Lopez really hasn't developed as fast or even at all like most thought. So then you come down to...is it Cooper's fault? Is it Hahn's fault Dunning had to have TJ? Same with Kopech...not Hahn's fault he needed TJ as well. On the flip side....you have Cease who is going to be a star IMO...and when Kopech gets back he eventually will be as well. Hopefully that pushes Giolito and Lopez as well. Most figured when Eloy showed up it would push Moncada...and he hasn't disappointed. Yoan is quasi super star status right now IMO. We haven't even touched what Eloy can do yet...and he will rake. It's a matter of time. And let's not forget the young super star in waiting down in Birmingham either...Mr Luis Robert. So yeah...it sucks right now that the Sox haven't lived up to everyone's hopes and expectations...but a lot of this is hardly Hahn's fault. Not landing Manny...partially. Giving idiotic contracts to the likes of Jon Jay and Jones...yeah. But there really is a light at the end of the tunnel IMO. And last but not least...he really scored with the signing of McCann...who's been nothing short of spectacular so far. His only mistake was only making it a one year deal.

The hit tool is fine and is probably one of his strong points. The way FG does the current ratings is to kind of have a base case for the level and then put 5 (or rarely 10) above or below that level. For HS hitters, a 25 current hit means its a plus tool because the base for high level prospects is a 20. If its someone who they have questions on the hit, they will have a current 20 and then a below 50 future. For college players the base is a 30 with most being at most 5 above or below that. When you take all of that into consideration you can better understand their ratings. For example, Vaughn only has a 40 current hit which you would think is low, but its actually the best because its two levels (10 total) above the base of 30. It is also reflected in his higher future rating. On the other hand, Bishop and Abrams both have a 25 current hit, but Abrams hit is considered a strength while Bishop's is considered a weakness. That is because Abrams is above the usual for HS guys while Bishop is below the usual for college guys.