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Can you creep on people in the stands somewhere else?

Ok I listened to the podcast. It was a good podcast and I like most of what i heard. It was mostly what we knew or expected. His comments about Sox fans on the internet and social media were interesting. Makes me think he definitely reads stuff around here. If so, hi Rick! One thing though. Rick Hahn can piss off with his 5-7 year comment. The Cubs were in the NLCS in Theo's 4th year in Chicago, and they didn't start with anywhere near the assets that the Sox started this rebuild with. I'm hoping the 5-7 year comment was intended to temper expectations, while they quietly plan on going for it this winter. I know we're not getting Gerritt Cole, but everything else could and should be on the table. I have a feeling the Sox are going to be one of the most active teams, both in trade and free agency.

They have an all-star and clubhouse leader at 1st base.

Having a competent 1B would solve so many issues of this team

Illuminati baby.

Maybe if I didnt put afternoon in the title like a dumbass

Apparently the White Sox were thrilled just for a seat at the table. I agree, Hahn saying nothing last year would have saved him a lot of the twitter grief he hates. But he is great at talking out of both sides of his mouth. On one hand it’s great the Sox came in second, put a feather in their cap because, I don’t know why, but on the other hand he says it’s binary, you either sign him or you don’t. Trying to get cute then losing out and spinning we made the better offer, but we cannot afford the one he picked is just telling the fan base how dumb they think they are. i will believe it when I see it. That goes from them actually closing the deal on franchise altering players, and actually putting together winning teams. Hahn and his multiple championships line is silly. How is he qualified to know what “multi championship players” look like? He would be done as a GM by now if he was with any other team. I listened to a lot of the podcast and his answer about the Nate Jones trade was telling. Blah, blah, blah Paddy doesn’t like any more prospects...this is going to be big for us. Saving $3 million in today’s game is big for a mom and pop operation, not some team with unprecedented payroll flexibility who will soon be competing for multiple championships.

Okay, I'm bored as hell at work today and I've wanted to make this thread ever since the Oakland series, so here we go. Oakland is a noisy ballpark. It seems to annoy a lot of folks from what I read on the game threads, but it also appears to be a fun way for fans to engage with the game while at the game. I must admit, I envy the baseball traditions that Latin American countries have. They are loud and boisterous at baseball games, where most North Americans are quiet, boring and only make noise if something good happens or if the JumboTron tells them to. When I'm getting my buzz on at the ballpark, or any sporting event, I want to make noise. Personally, I'd find a great deal of fun with taking my saxophone to the game and using it to get the team and the crowd going. I wish we had more of a communal mindset in North America when we go to sporting events. They are meant to be a fun thing to do, and your favorite team is not going to win 100% of the time, so having that fallback of "Well my team lost, but I still had a blast because of all the fun we had in the crowd" would be amazing. Last year, I went to the Bears/Jets game and had an absolute blast. Not only because they won, but because it is expected that the fans are noisy when the opposing team is on defense. This creates a fun atmosphere, for me at least. As fun as that was, I made my way to the Blackhawks game that same evening and tried to bring that same kind of energy (I was also plastered), and basically got told to shut up by other fans. What a disappointment! I'm sorry, I'm not going to wait until playoff games to make noise for my favorite hockey team. My question for you is, if the Sox came out and said "We are okay with fans bringing musical instruments or noisy things to the ballpark", how would you feel about it? Would you just be annoyed with it? Am I more of an anomaly than anything else? Oaklands crowds, albeit small, seem to enjoy having that around which suggests that there would indeed be a decently sized subset of fans that would enjoy it here. If this were to occur, and you aren't a fan of it, would you be more likely to complain to the Sox about it, or simply tolerate it?

The people who matter to the rebuild had a good game. Anderson, Lopez, Eloy, Bummer & Colome all contributed. Next year they will have more help.

OK

Oh you know it was a BOMB.

And now for the weather. Tonight, dark, continued dark for the next several hours, until turning light early in the morning. (Al Sleet, the Hippy Dippy Weather Man---George Carlin)

bomb or BOMB?

Goins is a nice player. He and Jay are useful and know how to play smart baseball.

Agreed and that’s why he is here and Rondon in Baltimore

Leury is a good hitter. Glad he got to be a regular the last couple years.

i am so in

His defense no question.

Remember when Eloy didn't come up because he needed defensive improvement? What would you say is his biggest weakness?

I certainly won't be listening to that for nine innings.

I'll be watching those games in Anaheim on mute.

What the hell.....this is god awful, I can’t listen to a half inning of him let alone a whole game.

This Walton interview is absolutely pathetic. What are the Sox broadcast people thinking about? This is like listening to a drunk who thinks he's funny...not.

If Walton is trying to be funny...he's not.

This is gonna be a spectacular disaster

There's no excuse for Bill Walton being on my television right now.

The question is whether you value 2020 more and want him to struggle now with an offseason to adjust or if you want him to struggle next year while we are ostensibly competing.

There is no excuse for Skole being here or on my TV.

Stone called it again

Rooting for Skole, but we all know Yermin should be hitting bombs here.

I don't think anyone thought Madrigal should be up this season. Robert was 50/50 on the board. He'll be great still but right now the struggles are visible.

I missed this post before posting a similar thought. I want Grandal, Wheeler, Betances, Gordon, and any other SP/swing man. With those five additions, along with Robert and Madrigal, I think we make the playoffs next year.

He was called up to replace Varnell who was promoted to W-S. Frare was sent to W-S too and McClure went on the IL

Hey guys, I've got two tickets for the game tomorrow I'd like to give away. One point before I ask who would like them. 1. They are paper tickets (not e-tickets) so I cannot mail them. They can either be picked up before near my house (Oak Park area) or I can leave them with roll call under your name. The parking pass is being used as well (sorry) so I cannot include that. The cost is $0. Please if you won't go, do not ask. Section 137.

Memo to investors put $10T on the Sox to tank this one.

https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/white-sox/white-sox-talk-podcast-gm-rick-hahn-talks-luis-robert-zack-collins-and-impact-social-media

I agree with Dick Allen. Hahn would have been let go by most teams with his record. And the rebuild came out of desperation. The Sox, although they had some talent, were plodding along winning in the mid '70s range and contending for nothing. Fans were frustrated not only by the losing, but by a franchise drifting with no apparent direction. So many were glad to see the club at least have some focus. But now with this focus, there has to be results. There is no credibility with continued pleas for patience. Whatever the Sox do this offseason, there has to be at least some improvement that will cause real hope. Talk, at this point, means nothing.

I accept these results.

Am I the only one who doesn't want Robert hitting leadoff? He very well might end up being the best hitter on the team...maybe even better than Moncada and Eloy. If that's the case, I want him hitting 3rd so he can drive in the guys batting in front of him (Madrigal and Moncada) who will hopefully get on base a ton.

Yermin Munster killing it per usual

Finally an article @vilehoopster and @greg775 can get behind 😂😂😂

Well sure if you look at them as finished products with no room to improve. Guess its the old prospects are suspects until they change your mind. There's all of next year to see who climbs the ladder.

Yermin and Zack BTB.

If Nate Jones were a hall of famer, sure.

I needed a thread to put this in and this was the most recent relevant one.

Caulfield, I like you bro, but what in the fuck are you talking about. I really hope you were never in marketing if you think any of this makes sense.

The White Sox and the owner of the field presented this idea to the league. The White Sox want the spot light on them for this game to promote their product

Feels like raffle is probably best way to do it.

Anderson is pretty good.

Of course we aren't but you add Madrigal also and some quality FA arms a RF etc. who is to say they don't have a shot at the playoffs? Id gladly take Rendon and move Moncada back to 2nd base or even let Rendon play 2nd base. Scooter Gennett , MadBum, Strasburg if he opts out, Wheeler , Betances plenty of decent options out there. Have to use that payroll flexibility sooner than later. Sustained success is a lie. Make a run at winning a title in the next 5 years starting next year.