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Or how about you stop being a whiny b**** and monitoring others posts? ive posted several off seasons with the Sox having big splash signings. This 1 I chose to do based on recent evidence of Sox free agent signings. Sorry if that triggered you

Putting your 2nd worst hitter 3rd in the order is crazy. You never give one of your worst hitters more PAs than better hitters. I see splitting them up like at spots 6 & 9, but you don't put them 3rd.

i am sure he will opt out and sign a record setting deal with the White Sox. It's pretty much guaranteed.

He probably opts out and gets a new deal with Washington.

There is no reason for you to be so confident as to put others on blast. His pessimistic plan still has them signing $40 mills worth of players and some higher level in odorizzi and McHugh. It’s not that outlandish.

#1…#2 or #9 depending on managers style.

Enes Kanter just murdering LeBron James on Twitter.

Well that's the thing . You have to have some degree of patience with prospects. We all bemoan trading away Tatis Jr. and then turn around and say everyone else is a bust . Some will fail some will succeed. So we trade away guys now you think are busts but who project to be decent 2 way players like Basabe , Rutherford, Walker ,Gonzales among our OF's. They have to be given more time because if you think they are busts then we aren't getting much for them anyway and will have to trade the guys like Collins, Lopez, Cease, Dunning, Vaughn , Stiever, Madrigal or even Robert. I sure don't want to trade Robert or any of them really. At least not until I see some good free agents signed.

I guess I just have fundamental differences on how to build a team from this point forward with you guys. Bmags, we think alike on most everything else except the trading for 1 year players with expectations of resigning them. It's just way too risky especially giving up the few valuable pieces left in the system. Mainly because so may current pieces have not established themselves, it's a huge risk knowing that in order to win guys like Kopech , Cease and Lopez really must improve in a hurry while also hoping guys like Moncada and Anderson just didn't have career years in 2019, Is getting 1 player in RF so important that you risk killing off the whole rebuild when you can't resign them and you're left with a bottom 5 minor league system while also knowing the Sox treat IFA with feigned interest at best ? Is the difference between say Corey Dickerson and Betts/Pederson really so vast that the risk is worth taking ?

EDIT: there was a bug in the first spreadsheet summing up previous AAV, this latest version is corrected. I was getting annoyed having to go across multiple sites to remember the post-salary arbitration budgets and where we were at, so I put together this google sheet where you can "build" your 2020 team and it will keep track of your budget on the Salary Totals page. Steps: - Click link to copy Google Sheet into your account https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1S_GkRq9r-NZaYnyAKsUfEFEg0Lm3BGzF1B5qUVxa-iY/copy - Pick the players you are going to tender/non-tender - Select Free Agents to sign (Note that I have pre-filled 2020 salaries for all of them, which gets summed into your salary thread). This also came from SPOTRAC and I noticed some weird omissions so please alert me to any missing ones. - Trade builder is also available with a select number of players - Salary Totals gives your 2020 team salary Go ahead and try it out and let me know what you think! Hopefully this helps cut down on the work. I tried to make a "roster" tab that would fill the FAs into the depth chart but that was too hard. NOTE: I'd really like to crowdsource the free agent salaries. THis table came from spotrac, where their Market Value metric was available I used it. But Starting pitching and relief pitching was quite hard, so I'd love to tease those out for any enterprising poster who wants to add theirs and we can average them. PM me if anyone does it.

Well... he is nearly right... lol.

The other point of getting Gardner that I tried to point out is it gives you two options. First it gives time for your non Robert outfield prospects to develop potentially giving you a cheap homegrown replacement. Secondly, Gardner does not keep you from signing someone like Pederson the following year. In that scenario all you have done is spent money and not lost any prospects.

That’s as high as it will go but it’s also a deal you don’t “think twice” about

Sure...and Myers. We shall see. Maybe JR will finally wake up from his stupor if that happens. Or we’ll have a parade of posts trumpeting an aversion to “irrational exuberance” on the FA market. That spreading out money over a whole host of players like 2004-05 is the way to go every time, and that the presence of Harper, Machado, Rendon, Strasburg and Cole alone would mean nothing to the White Sox, other than a looming contract albatross.

Ryu on a high AAV short term deal is interesting but I think he’ll just end back up in LA.

What??? You should bat your second worst hitter in a position that has the third most at bats? That's absurd. Your best hitter should likely hit 2nd. No one argues that a bad hitter should be hitting 3rd. They just argue that 2nd and 4th have more value. Some argue 5th over 3rd too but theres really not much difference between the two and id give more at bats over more opportunities with runners on base.

Let all the other teams argue and negotiate over Cole and Strasburg while we swoop in and lock up Wheeler.

Wouldn't it also depend on how stacked your lineup actually is? The lineup has so much potential to have a legit talent at every spot. So your 3 worst hitters hitting 7-8-9 could still be quite good.

https://venomstrikes.com/2015/01/05/optimizing-batting-order-teams-can-score-runs/ https://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2009/3/17/795946/optimizing-your-lineup-by

You have anything to back that up?

Nobody with a brain would give Strasburg more than 6 years, and even that is generous. He opts out to gain $30-40M to his bank account. If they're talking about similar length/money to Cole then that shifts the priority. If I had to predict his contract it would be 5/$140M

His stuff is absolutely phenomenal. I'll take either one and roll the dice. Both could have their arms fall off, but I like Stephen's build just a bit better. If I had to pick of the two, I'd probably take whomever was willing to take less years, but I'm agnostic in general. If I were in charge of the Sox, I'd go heavy for one of Cole/Stras as I think they need a true TOR arm and I'd also look hard at JDM/Rendon on offense.

He's been healthy for 2 seasons. I'd rather have Strasburg on a 5 year $28-30 AAV deal than Cole on a 7-8 year $32-35 AAV deal, despite Cole being 2 years younger.

Well he has an entire off season to prepare for the rigors of 1B.

The question is then were they truly principles before or was it just for PR?

Man...Strasburg is getting more expensive every start now. He may compete with Cole for top 2 highest salaries. He has the 2nd best numbers for a starter other than Koufax for first 6 starts of postseason...

The old I'll trade you my bad player for your good player.

OK you are right .I'll say then that he won't resign with the Nats 75% sure. Better ?

And MN also benefitted from the sack on Cousins last year by Matthews that was called Roughing. We can do this all night. There are shit calls in every game.

The Packers had one of the worst calls against them in NFL history against the Seahawks a few years back. GB absolutely benefitted from calls tonight but they get as many shit calls against them as any other team.

It's also yet ANOTHER indication that we should be hiring someone from that organization for double their current salary and sticking them behind Hahn and ahead of Haber as the heir-apparent.

Not sure the best way to share these? If there is 1... I did a cynical 1 with how I feel the FO could easily end up screwing this up and ended up with a 105.4 payroll...Jerry is happy already. Tendered: Colome, McCann, Garcia, Rodon, and Marshall Resigned: Jose-Although I lowered the salary a touch, Jose should be thrilled with 2/28 Free Agent Hitters: Puig, Kendrick(raised the $), Jason Castro Free Agent Pitchers: Odorizzi, Roark, McHugh, Brach It’s gross but I really have a feeling Puig is going to be our “prized” hitter in free agency. And the front office will market him like it was a great signing and continue to treat us like idiots. And likewise, Odorizzi will be the best SP left we can sign.