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Your posts are garbage here. First, your assumption (in other post) that the vast majority of us are going to get it may be true, but it's not about that. It's about stretching that timeline out so hospitals can compensate with it. We know we are likely going to get it, but if we do get it, we want proper health to back it up. We won't get that if it all commences instantly like it did in Italy and the hospitals can't help. Now you are suggesting us to shrug our shoulders with death. Like, ah, who cares if some old people die, it's nature. We've been fighting off 'nature' our whole life, no reason to get pessimistic and downright hateful now. Some of those you speak about are our friends, family members, and others who simply aren't ready to die yet to a virus because the infrastructure wasn't in place to protect them.

This is so surreal. This virus has killed but 37 people in the US and 4700 out of 8 billion worldwide, most of those in a country where new cases have leveled off. Because of that society is literally going on haitus before our eyes. The 9-11 aftermath wasn't even like this. I am not saying the panic is or isn't warranted, because its very real. Yet at the same time doesn't make sense. Its like there is something we aren't being told.

Here is the good news. When life gets back on track opening day will have some nice warm weather to enjoy

And here's your economic dagger boys: "BREAKING: Mitch McConnell says he won’t look at House relief bill for coronavirus for another 12 days. This is absolutely insane and obscene. I feel as if it’s criminal. This negligence and playing politics is beyond corruption. Shame on GOP." Get these self fulfilling scumbags out of office.

Yes, the COVID19 virus is some serious stuff...but this put a smile on my face on an otherwise crappy day.

I’ve never been one to shout from the top of the hills about term limits...but I’m getting there. The flip side, of course...is no more FDR’s, either. Leadership/experience is undervalued, until you actually need it. Kind of like government in general, for most. We love to complain about it, but see what happens when it’s not there in times of crisis to rely upon, to provide a sense of comfort and reassurance.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/who-gets-hospital-bed/607807/?utm_campaign=the-atlantic&utm_source=facebook&utm_term=2020-03-11T16%3A56%3A39&utm_content=edit-promo&utm_medium=social&fbclid=IwAR3w6Sk4np78VehWV9f**CVm4XcfKnv3R1xSRvWBqOi4dMgWxgTIJYNqQwM I strongly urge you to read this article to understand why Italy going from 322 cases to 2,500 cases to 10,000 cases in two weeks broke their entire medical system to the extent that their doctors had to decide who would be left to die. If these numbers spike here in the same ways they have in Italy, the death rate will be catastropically high, because we simply will not have enough doctors / nurses / hospitals / beds / ventilators / resources to tend to the very sick before they get critical and die.

You should probably go take a nap.

Everything follows a pattern here ... Look to Italy and you'll see what's going to happen in the US. We're just starting the freak out phase. Sports canceled, by Monday/Tuesday you'll see schools canceled for the rest of the year or at least through April/mid-May. Then you'll see travel restrictions throughout the US - so no planes, no traveling -- not just to Europe and international, but around the US. Then about 2 weeks from now you'll see a mandated shut down of all businesses except for grocery stores and pharmacies, etc. This is going to be a shut down through mid-May is my guess. Self-quarantine. I've been to O'Hare and just got back from Vegas for a convention and my company is having us self-quarantine for the next 10 days (at-least). It's about to ratchet up and get real in the US - we've just entered the twilight zone -- and it's only going to get more weird from here. Even myself I'm not sure if i have it -- both my wife and I have been traveling a lot and we're both sick with some sort of flu - fevers, the dry cough you here about, very achy ... who knows if i have it, not much you can do - i won't be able to get a test - so for now it's just locking down in my house to protect others. i'm personally not concerned - but concerned about the spread to others. The thing I can't stand is when people are like "the flu kills more people" ... and that's the problem with having a president like we do ... politics aside - because that's not what this is about -- his job is to be the PR for the US. Dividing people around a pandemic is not the way to do it. This is actually very serious ... maybe not for 20-60 year olds ... but for others. It's not about how bad Corona is for me or you, it's about curving the spread so that it doesn't get wild. The hospitals aren't equipped for this. We don't have the space or the staff. So it's not about that - self quarantine is about curving the spread. Ultimately there will be a vaccine. Ultimately this will subside, but it's going to be a wild next 6 weeks here and around the world. The ripple effect of companies, supply chains, servicing of debt, jobs, mortgages, etc etc etc. is going to take a LONG time to unravel. We built an economy on extensive leverage that was very suspectible -- almost like a 75 year old with pre-existing conditions - and the Coronavirus is exposing it. There's going to be massive government intervention for this - but ultimately it's thing people arent even thinking about that are going to really creep up over teh next few years because of this ... pension returns, further erosion of the dollar, negative interest rates, etc etc. we're in the upside down world now.

Please don’t copy and paste entire articles.

We literally have no idea. There's zero hard evidence one way or the other.

I just hope to fucking god that losing out on our entertainment for a few weeks/months is the worst that comes of this.

For all that Italy has had about 800 deaths out of 60 million people. That's horrible and as such needs preventative measures and mitigation, but it still amazes me that the response to that is to flat shut down society. Also, and I hate to go here, but the writer claims training only in political and moral philosophy, and with a byline as an advisor of "Protect Democracy". I just wonder about the objectivity. Again, the manifold response means there IS something to all this IMO. It just doesn't feel like I am aware of whatever gravity is out there.

Everytime I want to play by the time the damn system loads up I'm already ready to move on.

Man gut punch day keeps on getting suckier for me

It's hilarious in an extremely morbid way

We can always go full reddit mode and just use /S

WTF?

You've never not been an alarmist. You spike with each strikeout.

This would be great in theory if American's actually listened and took it seriously. Sadly, everyone is still going to work. My wife still has class despite a father of a student testing positive. The entire thing is a clusterfuck. The problem is American's don't like to be told what to do, and they don't listen to things that the media deems serious because they're idiots.

This 100% is not true. Italy is one of the only countries testing in mass; the USA has administered 5000 tests total. The US outbreak is likely really bad, but because the country is spread out a lot of communities don't see it first hand yet.

Yeah the goal is to "Flatten the curve." We're, what, 6-10 days behind the Italian curve and on an identical trajectory so far? They've run out of hospital beds. That's when you'll see mortality rates climb. And Jenks, 1-3% mortality on an estimated 70-150M infected in this country alone is....millions of dead people in a year. Low end, 1% mortality at 70M is still 700,000 people. If we hit the higher end, 150M and 3%, that is 4,500,000 Americans dead. Cross your fingers, pray, whatever that things don't get this bad here:

SInce Yearnin' and Squirmin" have been lagging ,I'm going to keep bumping this until Yermin gets sent down . Yermin hasn't been getting many AB's lately but despite that he took over the ST team HR lead with 2 HR's in his last 3 AB's going back to March 8 against the Padres and March 9 vs. the Reds. With Encarnacion out with his hip problem, I expect to see more of Mercedes who has the same amount of AB's as Palka, Collins could use some more time too .Maybe at 1st base and DH Mendick, Engel and Delmonico are 1,2,3 in AB's despite Delmonico slowing down significantly from his hot start. Could be they are giving him AB's because they know they might have to cut him and trying to get him picked up by another team.

So, we're canceling/postponing all of these things....how long do we expect this to last? Until a vaccine is created? Which could be 6, 8, 12 months away? This doesn't seem like a workable solution long term. And I still think the economic impact and resulting poverty of shutting down society for 6+ months may be worse than the 1-3% mortality rate that's been discussed. Anyone catch Joe Rogan's podcast yesterday? He had a top infectious disease doctor on who said something interesting...basically the only real way to stop the spread of this thing is to wait until a large number of people have been exposed/infected. The vast majority of people will build their own immunity to it, and then the infection won't spread anymore. But, that obviously comes with a big cost. Not a lot of good options here...

Between the injuries and global pandemic, I’m not sure we had a real chance to accurately judge Boylens coaching and he should return next year. - John Paxson somewhere

This is yet another reason why the best in-house analytics team and having as well as an extensive amateur scouting department is critical...when you're going to miss 2-3 months of high school/collegiate action. No last looks or CWS.

I wouldn’t touch UPS now, or Fed Ex/DHL... Zoom would be good, videoconferencing will be key in the next months. NetEase/Activision Blizzard...gaming companies with online platforms. Alibaba and Ten Cent are well positioned to quickly recover here in China. Online education platforms. INO, with more research into it. Disney, due to the strength of Disney+ and an eventual return to profitability with one of the best brands in the business. Coke or Pepsi. Be careful with the financial industry, those higher dividends might be cut. Verizon. Any of the Vanguard Funds, 500 Index, vivax, twsax, etc.

You’re not the boss of me

Yup, reversed course right after receiving the pressure but only by cancelling recess, not by agreeing to a bill to help people. Still won't pass the house bill because someone he doesn't like sponsored it... and the Senate nor the WH have a bill ready to go. The bill proposed by the House would have done a lot of good for a lot of people.

We learned why that was never going to work less than 24 hours ago.

WTF? Haven't you been complaining about people going out into public unnecessarily?

It just is...

Man I am with you 100% on this, all of your joys are mine too. Luckily I still have running and cycling. I am concerned with my job as i am in the travel business, very hard times. Didnt sleep much last night.

That's WSI.

You're confusing my intent with my acceptance of reality as I see it. Hate has nothing to do with it. At least it'll fix our social security woes.

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The economy is not going to improve as long as things continue to progress. The economy has only gotten worse, not better. If you allow this to happen over 4 months, you're talking about a recession that takes years to recover from. If we all accept the bleeding today, up front, for the next few weeks the recovery can start sooner.

That's fair BMags, but sadly the way things are reported we have already downplayed the fatality percentages because it's "only effecting old people." As if old peoples lives don't mean as much to the average person. If my dad died - I don't have children yet - I would be absolutely destroyed and devastated.

I brought this up the other day - do we really trust anything the Chinese government reports?

this is what was done in Italy and we already know it completely failed.

Here's an article from today. https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/white-sox/looks-nomar-mazara-will-avoid-platoon-start-can-he-do-it-all-2020 Here are Mazara's splits from the article. Against righties, he owns a career .271/.337/.462 slash line. Against lefties, it’s .231/.272/.361. Meanwhile, Adam Engel last year did this against lefties: .313/.360/.482, albeit in 89 ABs. He's also a better defender than Mazara. Why would the Sox even consider not platooning Mazara and Engel? Leury Garcia is .311/.344/.443 in 196 ABs. Since he's likely to be our everyday 2b until Madrigal cracks the big league club, he's better there than platooning in the outfield. There is NO REASON to give up offense trying to get Mazara to hit lefties better.

I mean there aren't that many LHPs it's probably fine.

Do I think they will place most of Mazaras off days against LHP? Yes I do. Do I think they will call this a platoon? No I do not.

yea I can't even begin to comment on sports right now. it's all not going to happen. flatten the curve everyone.

Is it really “institutional racism”? Is the Sox “clubhouse culture” no longer racist because the majority of players on the team are now from Latin America instead of being a majority of white players? How is the “clubhouse culture” less racist now that Latin Americans are creating and owning this culture as opposed to white players? Wouldn’t it still be racist then, but in favor of Latin “clubhouse culture” as opposed to white “clubhouse culture”? It seems to me that it’s simply more of a numbers game and the majority of one race being on the team is likely the group that creates and owns the “clubhouse culture” of the team, moreso than simply resorting to blaming racism for everything. I watched this video and most of it sounded like rookie hazing by veterans. It didn’t sound all race-related. And I bet it’s pretty safe to assume that the older white veterans were hazing the young white rookies as well.

His age is a legitimate reason to be concerned. But in the 2nd half last year, EE had a slash line of .321/.392/.643. Now, granted, and not helping the age concern is that his 2nd half consisted of 125 PA. But he mashed at least. And his first half, even though he hit 25 homers, featured a .199 BABIP. The dude can still hit when he is healthy. He has also been pretty darn durable. Last season was the first in which he didn't play at least 130 games since 2010. Maybe last season was foretelling his demise with missing some games. But his spring ABs are meaningless. He isn't a AA player trying to impress management to make the team. To even consider his spring is ignorant, silly or trolling.

Idk if Rodon would do it, but I could see him in the Andrew Miller/Josh Hader role and being absolutely filthy.

You're calm about your wife having a 1/5 chance of dying this year? Ok then.

America's propensity towards individualism and selfishness is on full display with this outbreak. When Japan told people to stay home, they listened. South Korea? Same thing. American's response is "who are you to tell me what to do?" You staying home is not about protecting you; the majority of us are not at risk. We are being asked to stay home to protect societies most vulnerable. Sometimes you have to make sacrifices personally for the greater good of all. This is one of those times. As MQR has already laid out, this is a resource issue. There are only 924,000 hospital beds in the USA. Of those 924,000, 66% of them are taken up year round for general issues like cancer and things. That leaves a little over 300,000 beds for other unforseen issues. Coronavirus has a hospitalization rate of about 10-15%; let's say 10% and error on the low side. The projection is for between 40-70% of the world population to contract he virus over the next year; lets, again, estimate on the low side and say 30% of American's get it this year. That's over 100,000,000 people; if 10% of those people need to be hospitalized, we're talking about 10,000,000+ people. We don't have the infrastructure, or the health care resources, to accommodate that. Which means? Hospitals will be forced to make tough decisions that costs people their lives (This is ALREADY happening in Italy FYI). By quarantining, you are not trying to "stop" the virus. You are trying to delay the spread of the virus in a way that allows doctors to keep up with the work load; which allows everyone an equal shot at survival if they're vulnerable. That's the point of bans on big public spaces, and while the rest of the world says "do whatever is best, we need to contain this," American's are fluttering about calling it the "flu" and downplaying the risk because it doesn't impose a risk to them personally. Furthermore, the USA has a healthcare system issue in general; many people can't even afford to go to the doctor, and even more can't afford to miss work for 2 weeks in the name of staying safe and healthy. This will lead people into the work place with illnesses, expediting the spread. There is no vaccine for this; the vulnerable have no way of protecting themselves. Instead of thinking about you and the personal problems/sacrifices you have to make - minor inconveniences in the grand scheme of things - think about the most vulnerable who have their lives at risk here. If the system is flooded, they can't receive proper treatment; if they can't receive proper treatment, they could die. This is not some small issue just because it doesn't effect you personally. This is a dangerous illness with no vaccine or cure. Show some compassion. I'll be sad when MLB plays games in empty stadiums - it will - but at the same time I understand it, and it's a sacrifice I'm absolutely willing to make for the better good of all.

caulfield if you want to talk about how baseball is set to react talk about that. But don't just turn this into another corona thread, there already is one.