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Greg’s schtick is stupid. There are thousands of better ways to spend your time.

It wasn't weeks but Shirley wasn't being truthful about that story. They didn't just see that he was off the board and start compiling a new strategy. Kiley McDaniel mocked Kelley at 47 for a reason. I was told that the Sox and Kelley had a pre-draft deal. I didn't find out about it until after he was selected but that's what happened. They knew they were getting Kelley on Wednesday afternoon once the salary demand was met.

Nice move to put the focus on the owners. Good set up for the CBA negotiations.

- Owners don't have to pay minor leaguers, which they long acted is a major expense. Hell, they've cut entire teams. - Owners don't need to do stadium operation costs. - Owners won't open the books - Owners keep proposing the same offer time and time again. They're bad faith negotiators who previously agreed to a deal. They could have possibly made profit if they started sooner, they didn't. This all lies at the feet at the owners.

CBSsports gave us an A. Baseball America called our class one of the five they were most excited about and considered both Crotchet & Kelley as top 15 prospects. Jim Callis considered Kelley one of the top three steals in the entire draft.

You have never engaged in an honest and open discussion. You have never acknowledged anything despite all of your pretending to not understand things that just happened to all fall along a single partisan line. If you ever want to drop the dumb greg act there are plenty of people who will engage you in an open and honest exchange. Until then don't come in here and demand satisfaction on some point while pretending to have been a full intellectual participant in this discussion. The day you drop the greg act, and actually act like the real person you actually are people will treat you with a real level of respect again. Until then, take your demands and stick them with the rest of the trash.

I like to say I take all situations individually and see what makes the most sense. I would say I'm fiscally conservative but not in areas like education. I don't necessarily support the owners in everything but when it comes to the finances it's just common sense. If the league doesn't generate enough revenue to sustain itself, there is no league. It's pretty obvious that there is financial issues. The league will have lost at least 2/3 of its revenue. You can make a valid case that the players shouldn't help the owners. In a normal CBA negotiation that true. However, this isn't normal and financial issues are real.

Huh, but I thought we punted on the last 3 picks and our draft was a waste? I could've sworn I heard how we did this draft all wrong, surely you must be mistaken.

https://mlb.nbcsports.com/2019/01/07/a-warning-about-major-league-baseballs-record-revenues/ This article reminded me that if baseball had just taken the players offer of 114 games at the onset, they'd probably have made enough money to not operate at a loss this season and build goodwill towards the future. But instead of not only can the owners not see the forest through the trees, they're just deciding to burn the forest to the ground.

The Wynn is opening up their buffet next week. Head to Vegas, take all the selfies you want....even stick you balls in the jello. Will that cheer you up?

That was going to happen regardless.

This. The owners are just full of shit. Always have been.

Talk about exploiting a situation to abuse the worker. Owners ought to be ashamed of themselves. Manfred has got to go, this guy is ruining baseball.

You dont need to listen to the owners figure it out for yourself. Revenues last year were 10 billion. Fans brought in roughly 3 billion. That leaves 6 billion from all other revenue likeTV, advertising, etc. If they play 1/2 of the games that another 3 billion loss. Hence the 2/3 loss. Its not hard. The big wildcard is the playoffs. That's why the owners have different scenarios for if the playoffs happen or not.

I know it's just a typo, but now I'm imagining "James Fox won't waive no trade clause for White Sox trade."

Maybe if owners hadn't insisted on paying minor leaguers poverty wages all these years, it'd be easier to listen them to cry poor.

Baseball owners and good faith. Surely you jest.

All unions renegotiate based on extreme circumstances. Our union had long negotiations to change our agreement based on the changes in the academic year. Its bargaining in good faith when circumstances change.

So for all of the posts directly to you and trying to educate you on your "questions" and general ignorance that you completely ignored, not to mention the garbage conspiracy that you have spread on a regular basis, now you are going to come in here and personally call someone else out? You have some nerve.

I absolutely love Crochet but I'm not nearly as high on Kelley as so many others are. Cole Wilcox was taken in the 3rd round. I would have much rather have him over Kelley. They also could have had two high upside HS pitchers like Ben Hernandez, Kyle Harrison or Carter Baumler for what they paid Kelley. We'll see how it works out but like I said this draft was so deep with high upside players I would have liked them get as many as possible.

Nope. He's signing.

Show me one post where someone argued the opposite

Excellent post. I root for the humans with you.

I'd love for you to acknowledge the hundreds of thousands of protestors marching close together and still breaking social distancing rules has not helped. I just wish people were fair and blamed all factors. For some reason the protestors get a pass. Just be fair and blame all factors please. I'll probably never get to eat a delicious buffet again because of this. And I'd like to blame a whole lot of people not just certain folks.

I recapped the 2020 draft for the White Sox here: https://www.futuresox.com/2020/06/13/premium-talent-the-focus-for-white-sox-in-2020-draft/ Premium talent was the focus but some trends seem to be forming for future years.

Dang, good luck.

According to Andrew Marchard of the New York Post, MLB and Turner Sports have reached a new billion-dollar agreement to continue broadcasting postseason games on TBS and TNT. Exact terms of the deal have not been revealed. However, it is known that Turner Sports will retain rights to one league championship series. In 2012, Turner Sports committed to pay $325 million a year for a package that includes one league championship series, two division series and extensive digital rights, according to Sports Business Journal. That contract, which included 13 regular-season Sunday afternoon games, is set to expire following the 2021 season. During that contract, Turner Sports alternated broadcasting the ALCS and NLCS with FOX Sports. The report notes that ESPN/ABC was making a move to acquire more postseason broadcasts before the Turner deal was reached. If and when MLB expands its postseason, that would open up another opportunity for ESPN to jump in. That decision seems inevitable at this point given the money Turner Sports and FOX Sports have been willing to spend. In 2018, FOX agreed to pay $525 million annually for regular-season games, the All-Star game and postseason games through 2021. https://sports.yahoo.com/report-mlb-turner-sports-reach-billiondollar-agreement-to-broadcast-playoff-games-202757382.html When you start talking about additional contracts in the billions, a loss of $15-25 million on the season per team is nothing. If the operating margins are that thin, then just sell to another owner who can actually afford to run a competitive team. There’s always going to be interested parties out there with so many new billionaires in this tech/venture capital/hedge fund economy.

You miss it every time someone mentions it. @Balta1701 mentioned it last time you brought it up, I believe. not that it matters, why does their acknowledgment of it make a damn bit of difference? It doesn't.

Miami also has the Cuban factor not to mention the weather and I'm sure the younger Cespedes would love to potentially play with his brother in New York. Gonna be an interesting race between the 3 teams.

There is a de facto salary cap. In fact, it is one thing the union knows they got played.They gain nothing because crying poor has worked for years. The media has bought it, and held their water, yet they somehow come up with the coin to pay a James Shields $20 million a year.

Bad timing to be crying poor.

Owners agreed to pay in March. To renege is disgraceful. Pay the players what you agreed already.

Balta and southsider don't seem to acknowledge that part of it. Or I've missed it.

I know they are under no obligation. But these extraordinary circumstances. Under normal circumstances I would agree with everything you said. However, as their situation has changed in the order of billions of dollars, I think they should go back to the table. We have never seen these types of of drastic changes so no previous situations apply here. Our union did the same thing.

I disagree . Both parties are acting like complete idiots allowing their on agendas to get in the way of what's good for the game.

I know that the Sox feel confident about their chances. I've heard Cespedes is still planning on doing a showcase though.

He's good. He's the best pitcher in the international class. He slots in favorably with Matthew Thompson and Andrew Dalquist. Those guys are a bit of a troika.

I think it's a give and take. The players are still making money regardless of what agreement there is. They are not going to lose money. The owners in this situation could lose money and cause issues for the league going forward. The owners can certainly afford to lose some, that's why they need to negotiate it. Again if you believe the owners number of around 58 games is break even, knowing negotiations it's probably higher, if they settle on games somewhere in the 60s at full prorated rate it's a good deal. It's all for the good of the league this year. This cant happen if too many teams need to borrow money to make expenses. This will only hurt the league in the long run.

I usually side with the owners...I'm far from a trump supporter and I'm not really conservative

J.J. Cooper and Ben Badler broke down all the 1st rounders on the BA podcast. When they got to Crochet, he was labeled as a guy that could end up being the arm everyone ends wondering how he lasted until the 11th pick? This was before the Kelley pick too, so they were strictly going off Day 1 results.

Yes it's better than fine . It's mighty fine ! 2 high upside pitchers, one college, one High School , one lefty, one righty . Both considered among the best Meyer , Lacy, Hancock, Detmers, Abel, Crochet ,Kelley those might be the best pitchers to be drafted. 7 names and we got 2 of them. Sure some will fail and others not listed here will step up, but going into the draft those 7 stood out most. Kelley should eventually pitch in the halfway to St. Patrick's Day game.

The above charts are based on deaths/per million. R0 is absolutely is real thing: Countries behaved radically differently, however, there was little difference in the R value. Interesting observation from a well-known statistician discussing the impact of the "lockdown" in the UK: https://arxiv.org/abs/2005.02090 Firstly, Sweden absolutely failed in protecting their most vulnerable populations (a mistake that has been made throughout the world, notably in the US). Deaths related to LTC facilities are over 70%. Sweden frequently concedes this failing; this is the "admission" of their top epidemiologist . Regarding the counts compared to their nordic neighbors, this can be related to their particularly inclusive Covid counting metrics. Sweden counts any death as a Covid death if there has been a positive test within 30 days. Literally any death from pneumonia to falling down the stairs would be a counted as a Covid death. However, their neighbors, such as Finland, are not even counting deaths outside of a hospital setting: https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/17567-finland-s-coronavirus-deaths-rise-closer-to-100-actual-number-could-be-much-higher.html. Surely, we should see a noticeable spike in death compared to their nordic neighbors: Sweden is actually 4.5% below their baseline, Norway is 9.00% below their baseline, Denmark is 2.7% below their baseline, and Finland is actually 10.6% above their baseline. Again, this does not demonstrate that Sweden performed well with Covid, they failed many of their citizens with a disease that is very dangerous to a portion of the population. However, they don't have a noticeable increase in death compared to their neighbors. It serves as evidence that the "lockdowns" had no correlation to the impact of Covid. Norway has somewhat admitted they overreacted: Regarding the nature.com publishing: They effectively assume a high growth rate, assume infinite exponential growth, and then assume that attenuation is because of actions without any casual link or empirical measures; there is no null hypothesis. You could apply the same assumptions to the annual flu and you would see the same drop without any of these actions. There is no reason to presume correlation or linearity in disease growth without non-pharma intervention. They are claiming that because the disease did not sustain steady growth forever that the actions their model claims should stop it must have stopped it.

Has anyone read any commentary on WS draft? Any of the pubs opine on picks? Any mention among Winners/Losers?

Have the players made any proposal yet that was at less than full prorated dollars? I see it as the players being greedy here.

Doing so ensure there’s no tanking in a short season

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ I am not sure where your charts are being made up from but in terms of COVID deaths per million Sweden 481 Finland 59 Norway 45

This 2021 draft will be the last under the current CBA. In the new CBA, I certainly hope there is the addition of tradeable draft slots. Also I think the overslot/underslot crap should go away. Everyone gets slot, no more and no less, and you can trade the slots. Make it easy. Bump up the values in the 2nd round so it's not such a precipitous drop pick to pick from 1 overall to the end of the 2nd round.

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I don’t think he’s talking about getting both. He’s saying if Crochet comes in at slot, then we could have had Abel/Kelley or Howard/Kelley, and he would prefer one of those combos.

Howard needs to do right by the Sox and turn down millions to go to school.