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    Rick: Lifelong Sox fan here. I won't bore you by establishing my bona fides, but suffice it to say that most who know me would agree my devotion borders on pathological. Opening day is a holiday in my house. I've hung on the team's every move for decades. I was excited and encouraged by the decision to move in a new managerial direction. I won't speak ill of Ricky Renteria, who was by all accounts well liked and led the team to a great season, but I applaud the front office for "thinking big" and readying the team for sustained postseason success. But I have been shocked to find my feelings of elation quickly turn to terror as rumors have begun swirling about AJ Hinch (or even Alex Cora) as potential hires. At the risk of revealing my naivete, I had never even considered they could be options. Perhaps they are not--but in the event there is truth to these rumors I wanted to make my strong feelings known, for whatever that may be worth. Like many fans, I have been profoundly troubled about the Astros cheating scandal over the past year. I've been baffled by the lack of accountability for some of its participants. While I was encouraged by the initial, and appropriate, reaction of shock and revulsion that met the scandal within the baseball world, I have been surprised by how quickly many have changed course and seem willing to "just move on" from an orchestrated scheme of fraud that infected the game's most basic competitive elements. I have often tried to imagine how I would have managed all this as an Astros fan, and have felt blessed that I never had to confront this question in anything but the abstract. So I ask you, please: don't force me into a similar position now. There's no question here -- while their roles differed, AJ Hinch and Alex Cora both led a team that cheated its way to a World Series title, then smiled into the camera as they accepted a trophy they knew in their hearts was tainted by fraud. They were *fired* by other teams--including the *Houston Astros themselves*--for their roles in this scandal. How could we, as fans, be excited about hiring either of them to stand as the face of the Chicago White Sox franchise? How would I explain this to my kids? It is more difficult every day to impress upon them that they must adhere strictly to moral and ethical standards that so many people and institutions brazenly trample when it's expedient. Please don't foist these ugly dilemmas on us, not in this corner of our lives. It has taken a century to recover from the Black Sox scandal that darkened this franchise's legacy. You hold that legacy in your hands now, and at a precarious moment. Please do not sully this organization for some minuscule (and questionable) perceived marginal competitive advantage. Go Sox.
  3. 3 points
    The last time we brought in an A.J. with baggage we won the World Series. Hate it or love it, seems like Hinch is destined to be our next manager.
  4. 3 points
    Robert is a better defensive CF. You are getting the same production regardless so this is just worsening your team for no reason. Engel would be a plus RF so at least you have premium outfield defense.
  5. 3 points
    In a sport where domestic abusers get second chances, being involved in cheating doesn’t even rate. It would bother me a bit, but I would get over it.
  6. 3 points
    This from a guy who is barely qualified to post on a message board about baseball.
  7. 2 points
    I'm bothered but it won't make me protest and boycott White Sox baseball. I do think it's a pretty big managerial characteristic flaw he had, and I also don't think he is the reason they won 100 games a year, but if he can run a bullpen, we will be better off.
  8. 2 points
    Would love to see this at some point. Let me know when it starts
  9. 2 points
    Giving a near championship ready team to a first time manager just because he is a fan favorite would be a failure by Hahn. I loved Ventura the player. I didn't love Ventura the manager. There is too much at stake here to experiment.
  10. 2 points
    3rd wave? Nah, the first wave never ended.
  11. 2 points
    Then you should have nothing to worry about explaining to them.
  12. 2 points
    How about "it matters to me a little bit, but if he comes here and has the success we anticipate, I'm 100% fine with the move" as an option?
  13. 2 points
    Think it's time to email your buddy Jerry again.
  14. 2 points
    Someone is going to hire Hinch (and Cora for that matter), and maybe it will be the Sox. Whoever hires him will be questioned - by the media, by the fans of that team, by fans in general. Cheating aside, Hinch has proven himself to be a very good manager and will most likely be a great manager for a new team. He knows that he has to rebuild his reputation, and he also knows that managing a young, exciting team will be a good way to do that. There will be some noise early on; right after the hiring, before the season starts, and early in the season. But driving a team to success will go a long way to make people forget (or at least forgive). The Sox are really close to being a perennial contender and force within baseball. They need the right person at the helm to get them there. If Hinch is the right guy, he should be hired.
  15. 2 points
    Where did I suggest that? He was supposed to be out of baseball for a year. He was out of baseball for a year. The offense wasn’t premeditated murder so let’s call it water under the bridge and moooove on.
  16. 2 points
    imagine a sox player getting busted for peds, some of you guys would be twisting yourselves into knots telling us why you still support them, that they just made a mistake, the mental gymnastics would be amazing I picked option two fwiw
  17. 2 points
    I care but I don't think I care enough for it to bother me if he's the best man for the job, I just want a good manager and for the Sox to win a lot of games.
  18. 1 point
    I believe that you mean Kevin Cash.
  19. 1 point
    I think KW/Hahn have been slowly but surely modernizing their operations since 2017 and the last step of that is a more integrated front office/coaching system. Getting someone the players will respect while also being capable of effectively carrying out the plans of the FO/scouts is the job now. That said, I think what they also saw is Rick's supreme optimism was helpful keeping a bunch of young players struggling from cratering mentally during the rebuild years. Recall an Engel story after K'ing on a slider on 3 pitches coming back to the dugout to RR saying "it's okay kid that was a tough pitch" and him thinking "you know that was just a great pitch". Especially for an Engel who was allowed to struggle and develop in majors, RR was likely the perfect manager. But that wasn't the team he had anymore. In a rebuild, showing you believe in a pitcher like Rodon or Ruiz in a tough situation may be helpful long-term in showing that player they are still depended upon and having the manager's confidence could mean a lot. But the sox are now in the short-term. So no I don't think it's anything about Reinsdorf specifically and more that they gave ricky a new team but he was still managing it the exact same.
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    Yep, that game in particular not sure I'd have done anything different except maybe not turn to Bummer so early and maybe give Dunning an extra hitter to see if he I could get more from him. At a certain point, someone has to be able to come in and throw strikes. Cleveland was a mess.
  23. 1 point
    Speaking of managers and not just candidates, am I one of the few here that thinks Dave Roberts is an awful manager? I only follow him somewhat in the playoffs, but it seems to me he has made some horrendous managerial decisions over the last few years.
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    I'm sorry, I'll call your virtue signal and raise you people can be rehabilitated and deserve a second chance.
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