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Stuff like this, that this guy could be a high ranking baseball official for 25+ years despite being a moron clearly starved for attention, is why no fan should accept criticism that they would know less than people actually employed in baseball.

TA is on board

Yeah olberman is a bit of an ass but that doesn't mean he can't be right. Disagreeing with someone just because you don't like him is not a good idea.

I'm guessing it is political.

He never said "all was fine". He just pointed out this is another sign things (at least for the actual players and staff) are going good with TLR. The complete doom and gloom around TLR this forum emits is getting old and frankly sounding more and more like an echo chamber.

It’s sad that it seems certain posters are hoping for there to be turmoil.

He looks a lot smaller, good to see!

Came in thinking this was gonna be a hot mic situation, but nope, this dude was fully aware that this was a broadcast event. Amazingly stupid that he'd do something that could risk Seattle's historic appeal to Japanese players. I feel like it'd be the Sox fucking up their Cuban connection.

Do you have any relevant information to refute the facts reported in Olbermann's tweet regarding Mathers' previous history of sexual harassment, the Mariners' subsequent sexual harassment settlement payments, or Mathers' exposed racist statements? Are you opposed to Keith's lone opinion that Mathers' tenure should and will end soon? Are you OK with people like Mathers running the sport? Or are you merely triggered by the fact that people are no longer putting up with sexual harassment and racism?

In the spirit of forgiving past mistakes, I think they should let William Ligue Jr. and his son back into the park. Sure, they hope on the field and beat up a KC Royals coach, but it was a misdemeanor. Why do they have lifetime bans?

Even worse than the language thing is probably that he admitted keeping guys down due to service time reasons. GMs never admit that, they always invent something like "needs to work on his baserunning". This could cost the mariners quite a bit of money if the players file a grievance for service time manipulations. Prior grievances have been lost as the player can't really prove he is ready but if the ceo is on record admitting it was manipulation that could be different. Was that guy drunk or what? Normally a man in his position should be intelligent enough to not say stuff like that.

So he didn't need a translator based on what exactly? Because the imbecile that just got fired said so? It's potentially insulting to blatantly accuse an individual who's second language is English of using a translator as a crutch they do not need, particularly someone from a country halfway around the world coming to this country in their adult years. It's quite obviously a topic that should never have been broached at all. Not sure how that's difficult for you to put together after the end result.

I don't CARE about Teheran...I am SO excited about this team. In all my following of the White Sox I can't remember so many exciting pitchers under 26...Gio, Cease, Kopech, Crochet, Kelly, Stiever, Thompson, Dahlquist...all on the roster or in our top ten prospect list. I just don't want the White Sox even considering some 30 year old cast off...irrespective of his league average skills...even if he's free....I don't want them to look at Leake or Hamels. This is not the time...this is not the team...back when the Sox were trying to squeeze a contender out of the Sale/Quintana/Eaton/Abreu group and they had all sorts of garbage on their staff, bullpen and lineup...sure...bring in Teheran and dream. But this team has way to much talent to be grasping at straws...and if the wheels do fall of the cart with the rotation...I'm pretty sure you can find a Teheran equivalent by trading a fringe prospect to a non-contender.

What if I told you all of that is true, AND people still want to see the team win. I know it is difficult, but it is possible.

Also this guy didn't seem to be a baseball ops guy, more of a ted phillips owner-stays-happy-because-you-ask-the-annoying-questions-about-costs-of-75k-translators-so-he-doesn't-have-to and if anything they aren't going to put baseball ops guy above dipoto at this point.

How unsatisfied will you be if no feathers are ruffled? Sure sounds like you’re trying to force the issue here.

Oh no. Many feathers will be rustled by that tweet. Everyone wants to leave the organization because of TLR. Why would TA lie and say things that are 100 percent false? Was TA coerced into making that statement?

It is interesting that a guy who was supposedly hired with zero tolerance if another one of these pops up, didn't even warrant a discussion whether said behavior should disqualify him from the job.

You all are really reaching here with the “carrying the water”. The poster above was just trying to get across that referring to him as a “felon” is incorrect, he in fact is not legally a felon. He wasn’t defending TLR’s actions or hire (I’m not either). He was just clarifying a fact, not an opinion.

Parents are scheduled for Wednesday in Arizona. I'm scheduled for Thursday in New York.

I'm really into art, so been someone who I probably followed more closely than most since leaving the Sox. He's got some really cool pieces. I think there was a guy on the Cubs too -- kinda their AAAA version of Micah Johnson who also was doing art on the side too. It really is true - we always pin these guys as just athletes and say things like "good" when a NIcky Delmonico or MIcah or Palka doesnt make the team. Sometimes easy to forget these guys are chasing their dreams and are people too. Glad hes finding a ton of success right now.

You are correct, and I don't think that it's a coincidence that a team with that kind of drought is also where a guy has a public chat like this.

So he's George Costanza. If you really believe it, it is not a lie. Maybe when the Bulls are ready to win he will give Chief Triangle a call.

Still, it's headline news in both the Seattle newspapers, the Times and Post-Intelligencer.

Any thread that starts by quoting Keith Olbermann is pretty much a waste of all of our brain cells.

The absolute balls it takes to consistently throw near BP-speed pitches down the middle of the plate against MLB hitters is severely underrated. Not only could they easily go yard, but they could just as easily take the man's head off if they tee it up right back at Gio. It's just plain supreme confidence in a pitch coupled with an unflinching belief that he has the mental upperhand in every at-bat knowing he can fool them.

What? You’re saying those posts don’t exist??

No, but sure. Just go with it.

Kyle Seager is their equivalent of Paul Konerko or more recently Abreu. Calling him out as "overpaid" was a fire-able offense. You can't fucking alienate your fanbase like that. Imagine if JR called Jose Abreu overpaid. Even if he fucking is, you sure as shit don't say it in public.

Come on. You’re acting like there haven’t been hundreds if not thousands of frothing at the mouth anti La Russa posts in which one of the primary arguments is he is going to tear the clubhouse apart because he’s incapable of getting along with black players, the primary support for which was that Ron Gant didn’t like him thirty years ago.

Hate to speak for others but...the core of the dozen best players are 25 or younger. Peaks years would be when they are 26-27-28. So we will see exciting up and comers this year and in a year or two we will see them at their full power.

It would be so great if he has a major league career. Hopefully he’s wanted by other teams because it means he’s healthy and good.

Say what? I didn't say anything about TLR (let alone OJ) being "innocent." I didn't defend his actions in any way. I don't even like the hire. With all due respect, you completely missed the point.

I have no idea. I would assume they are to their FT employees? My point was more along the line of it being extremely difficult to get employers to raise the wages of their employees for any reason at all. It's why the fight for 15 has been going on for like 10 years now. Could many of them pay their employees that much? Probably. It might mean they only make $2.5 billion instead of $2.6 billion though. Will they though? Not likely. At least not without being dragged kicking and screaming into it.

The Padres’ made moves to attempt to beat the best team in baseball. The White Sox made moves to hopefully one year pass Minnesota in the worst division in baseball. Hahn may blow smoke up fans asses with talk of “multiple World Series championships”. It’s easy to talk the talk, time to bring in the pieces to walk the walk.

Instead of feeling righteous send the guy to Gloria Steinem training camp. He suffers from bad judgment. He has to serve some consequences.

Yes, expectations are high, but I don't know what that has to do with LaRussa. As I have said in other posts, LaRussa may work out. But if there was a sense of urgency, the front office would have interviewed at least a handful of candidates before making a decision. This bar has been set at the top - by fans. We now want and expect winning. I don't know where the organization sets the bar.

Last week, I would've said no chance. Now I'm leaning towards him making the opening day roster.

This. These GM's aren't really anything more than lucky in a way. Right place, right time. Sure I"m sure these guys are good at their job, but I 105% believe I could be just as successful if I put in 50-60 hour weeks as a baseball GM as my career. That's not cocky - that's just real. This guy is a moron. MORON. you don't say your #1 prospect ... which by the way YOU offered a contract to BECAUSE you think he's going to be so good .... you don't say that this kid turned US down because he thinks in 6,7,8 years from now he thinks HES GOING TO BE SUCH A STAR. The way he even said it was pompous. Or the who interpreter thing. I'd like to stick that guy in the Dominican League and tell him good luck. No speaking english - oh and dont forget you have to be available to the media to talk every single day. Maybe he should focus on putting a winning project on the field - arent they the longest drought without a playoff appearance?

I mean, let's just look past Olbermann in this discussion. He just made commentary, if you don't like him that's perfectly fine. He really has nothing to do with your assessment of Mather

What is there not to hate about Mather though?

You need to compare what the 2 kids would gain by claiming themselves with what you would lose by not claiming their exemptions. But it seems like you know that.

And been sitting at home in the old old system when you actually had to win something to earn a playoff spot. But thank you for correcting my mistake, I do appreciate it. That 2-8 finish always makes me think it was worse than it was. Third place in your division and that gets you executive of the year. Think a Dodger or Yankee executive could win with a third place finish? If all those years of tanking is a brilliant move why not win executive of the year then? This has been a poorly run franchise for so long that by comparison he looks great. How depressing is that?

We’re one of only five clubs to never have signed a $100M contract. Do you realize how ridiculous that is for a baseball team in Chicago with one of the sweetest stadium deals in all of sports? I’m glad your optimistic, but Jerry deserves doesn’t deserve a free pass here. Adding Lance Lynn was a huge move for 2021, but cost us a promising young arm in Dunning (who could have helped us for the next six years) all because Jerry’s need to cut payroll limited our options. Liam Hendriks was also a fantastic addition, but his signing forced us to gamble in RF once again, go cheap with starting pitching depth, and not add a left-handed bench piece. All this after Reinsdorf pocketed millions during the rebuild. So no, my frustration is not centered around missing out on Machado’s $300M contract, but rather that even just another $10M or so this year could have gone a long way to improving our playoff chances. I hope in the end our lack of depth doesn’t really matter, but it’s totally fair to be a little pissed that Reinsdorf is kicking off the first real year of our competitive window with a YoY payroll decrease, COVID or no COVID.

I don't need to be told how to be a fan, but thanks. As others have mentioned, it's possible for multiple things to be true. We can be excited for this season while also frustrated with how the last 5 months have been handled. Additionally, when I hear the Front Office talk about trying to become the 90's Braves with young players continuing to emerge and always being the playoff mix.......I'm sorry that a roll my eyes given the success rate of this current regime.

It's really weird how millionaires and billionaires really like their money and if you try to force them to give some of it up and give it to their workers they find ways to not do that. Who'd thunk it?