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CaliSox obsession with Vaughn is nearing that guy who's Yermin obsession must have meant his wife slept with Yermin.

If you're going to use his high BABIP on one split to make your point you should probably use it on the other side as well. Your argument paints an incomplete picture. In all likelihood, he looks like he's going to come back down to earth a bit against LHP and should get some BABIP-fueled relief against RHP. IDK why you're always so angry or talking about irrelevant players. Vaughn has been ass against RHP. I don't disagree with you. You should at least show the full picture instead of picking and choosing what fits your narrative though.

Our hometown hero's doctored the baseball!?! Say it ain't so!

https://www.mlb.com/prospects/stats/affiliates?teamId=145&date=06/24/2021 https://www.milb.com/scores/chicago-white-sox/2021-06-24 Ok Ron , guess it is one day off if no no one wins. Thanks to everyone who does this. Don't stop now boys!

At this rate, I don't see how much longer they can reasonably keep Burger down while Yermin is swinging a pool noodle at the dish. Great to see Jake forcing the issue.

Frank Thomas was entertaining. Gordan Beckham could cure my insomnia.

I thought it was absolutely stellar.

It's probably time to option Mercedes and Gonzalez shouldn't have ever been added IMO.

I believe this is the case. The brain fog thing can last a long time along other nagging ailments. I had it a while back. I've been fully vaccinated since but it really does take quite a while to get over it. Kudos to Yo-Yo for being out there and fighting through it !!

Micker (along with a bunch of other prospects) starts heating up, hits a walk off. Yoelqui is playing. The Future Sox game threads are usually sober and fun. Instead: Rick Hahn, the man who built a team currently in first place that's just experiencing their first slump due to an ungodly amount of injuries is apparently a bum because he doesn't recognize talent in the farm system ... that he (and obviously Getz, Shirley, Hostetler, Paddy, etc.) put in place. Oy.

Adam Frazier should not be, and probably isn't, the target. He is a very good lead off hitter, but the Sox have a lead off hitter. What they are missing is power, especially from the left side. Neither Moncada, nor Grandal are really well suited to bat 3RD, 4TH, or 5TH. Frazier will also be under control, beyond this season. The Sox don't need that either, and certainly aren't anxious to spend what it would cost in money and, or prospects. Where would Frazier play next year, when Madrigal, Eloy and Robert rejoin the team? The only spot on the roster that will be open is RF, which really should be filled with a LH middle of the order bat. Frazier is not even close to being that type of player. He's simply not a good fit.

Really enjoyed watching and listening to the podcast with Rick Hahn, their first episode, think many here will enjoy it, perhaps tonight with the off day. Later episodes will include both baseball and non baseball related subjects.

Almost every MLB team is doing this...for example, the Dodgers broadcasters were at Chavez and they lost the crowd noise of 40000+ in SD just a couple hours down the road for about five minutes. Very weird listen. So not a case of JR saving money, it’s nearly industry-wide across numerous sports for away games.

Honestly the only number that the Sox should care about is that career 116 OPS+, and his huge split advantage vs RHP. The Sox won't be trying to get defense out him, so WAR doesn't matter. Slot him at DH and let him rek righties

It used to be that Stone was guaranteed some games off every year (usually the west coast swing, which gave us Bill Walton).

blah blah blah windbag. It's a baseball discussion based on defensive stats which are a highly debatable thing to discuss. You stepping in with nonsense is typical .You are acting like a petulant school child who was scolded because I admonished you on using lies and distortions when arguing about Vaughn's abilities vs. RHP. If I am obsessed with Vaughn what does that make you? The guy who lied and told everyone that I said send him down to the minors when I did not, then didn't bother to take it out of your post after you admitted I was right. The only thing you have left is to personally attack me. Apparently you are obsessed with spreading falsehoods and lies and jokes at my expense like a child among his schoolmates.

Jerksticks is always quick with the hot takes, but typically lacking in the analysis to back up aforementioned provocations.

Luis had 1 home run and wasn't anywhere near MVP during season. Yermin gave us about a month and a half of Eloy production and Lamb has hit a little. Not to mention a lot of good players have been hurt around the league. Couple this with playing in a weak division we are actually fortunate. If we played in the AL East or West we would be in third place most likely.

Swing for Escobar and a reliever - maybe Starling Marte if the Sox are feeling crazy

The Sox could learn from this and spend more in the off-season for bench depth and bullpen depth. Great to learn “ what could happen” I realize that we have been decimated and little to no team can compete like that but we can spend more even another 15 million in the off-season could provide more or better depth. Hope they get some help. It would show the current group that management believes in This team to invest.

How about the following?: 1) Send Mercedes back to AAA 2) Bring up Burger to DH 3) Acquire Escobar to play second 4) Continue to search for a better bat to play RF, preferably LH, and especially if he's more than a rental 5) Play Lamb vs. RH pitching,

I love that Balta doesn’t watch games or even post here anymore, but has risen from the grave because there is some good outrage to be had.

So, what do you think that shiny spot on the back of his cap is? Why do you think he goes there so frequently, and rubs it with his index and middle finger? I don't know, so I'm just asking. It looks awfully suspicious to me.

I remember when the Sox acquired Fernandez from the Royals. From the research I did then, he was very highly regarded as a good defensive catcher. His bat hasn't been good, but I understand that he has been Major League ready to catch, going back to the time that he was a Kansas City prospect.

Absolutely no reason to give up on Sheets at his point. Rutherford and Adolfo, yeah. Decisions are going to have to be made.

Yeah I would agree. Excited to see how it plays out. I do expect the Sox to go really top heavy again with the way they allocate spending so hopefully someone falls.

Forget it, he's rolling.

Appreciate it fellas. Some good news!

He's been playing at High A for a few days now.

Lol, "supposed to hate Zavala". What the hell are you talking about? I'm pretty sure nobody cares much about Zavala either way.

Point of order: According to THIS, both Burger and Sheets are in the 40 man right now. Do you have contrary information? [EDIT: BR also has them on the 40 man.] Also, although we're all supposed to hate Zavala, he's the only other catcher in the 40 man, apart from Grandal and Collins. If he's dropped, then who becomes the next man up at C? Yermin? Leury? TA? Again, I get that we're supposed to hate Zavala and Leury, while falling all over ourselves to excuse other underperformers. But a 3rd Catcher is a "better-to-have-and-not-need," than "Need-but-not-have" sort of situation.

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Unless you think that Yermin's pinch hit the other day in shittsburgh is a sign that he's coming put of his slump, I agree. We should also acknowledge that Burger is pretty much all the potential "help" that's available from Charlotte. The rest of them, to include Sheets, have artificial numbers that are inflated by Truist. Go ahead and look at whats available. The other elephant in the room, Vaughn, has continued circling the drain since this thread started. Both his overall numbers and his splits look shittier in just a mere few days. I think his WRC+ in June is down into the 60s, while vs. RHP, his WRC+ is into the LOW 30s. For him, the saving grace is that there's literally NO ONE currently in the org who could both stand at LF cromulently and hit better than Vaughn at the MLB level. So for him, either he pulls his head out of his rectum, or once one of Hamilton/Eaton/Engel are back, he can go down to Charlotte. There, he can hopefully bother to watch video and learn how to NOT swing at every crappy slider down and away. Oh, and learn how to communicate with the fielders around him, so he doesn't collide with the CFer or IFers.

Hahn is simply a yes man for the white Sox organization. He brought in a bunch of garbage last year, dumped the garbage and brought in new garbage this year. The payroll didn’t even expand as the cost of last years garbage is the same as the cost of this years garbage. Can you imagine “ going for” a WS and not expanding payroll a bit? I coached hockey in Winnetka about 4-5 years ago and one of the kids on one of the other team was hahnskid who actually was a decent goalie.my point here was that Hahn was at the rink and we talked a couple times and he seemed very guarded in his comments about everything. Never even talked Sox. He struck me as an oddball. my guess is that he has little input in what goes on bringing in players and his hands are probably by the cheap owner. im not sure Gonzalez is constantly brought up. He really has never shown anything. That’s a chicken shit move. if this rebuild turns out to be a waste of time for Sox fans somebody is going to get their ass kicked.

I am ready for Burger to get a shot at DH

Jerry has other plans.

The Sox need hitters and there’s no reason not to bring up sheets and burger to give them a shot for the games before the all star break and maybe beyond. The Sox are missing four outfielders and don’t have a second baseman. They currently can compete with a team that hits a little. Sooner or later their pitching will hit a wall and the hitters will have to pull their load. give these kids a shot until Eloy Engle and robert come back. What is Hahn waiting for? This team needs some life.

It’s the drunken commissioner office’s ineptitude, stupid. https://theathletic.com/2669517/2021/06/23/gelb-girardi-vs-scherzer-absurdity-is-just-another-distraction-from-mlbs-real-issue-find-a-better-ball/

Stop applying reason and logic. The Rays are mean and jerks. They should have gone the unprecedented route with Franco and pulled up the teenage position player from A ball. They didn't do that so they are SeRVicE tiME mAnIpULaTorS.

Lol

He got tossed cause he started yelling at Kevin Long.

Gio is perhaps the most prominent change-up pitcher in the game. Increasing spin on change-up isn't typically the route to having success with the pitch (Devin Williams a key exception). You want to minimize spin on a change up to maximize fade. So I would agree Gio should be okay through all this even though he was pretty clearly using substance.

Because balls in play could be heavily pine tarred, wiped discreetly and then used by the pitcher.

I am probably going to jinx us here, but I remain shocked that of all of our players, Leury Garcia is still healthy.

Currently our #1, #2, #3, #4, and #7 OFs are on the DL, if you count AV as our #5 OF, and Leury as #6.

So I always liked Beckham - but I thought it was such a dull listen to. Benetti was pulling teeth trying to get him to tell some stories, etc, but just not natural at all. No surprise with this being his first rodeo but really not a good showing, imo.

If you want to look for reasons for the current hitting problems, don't look at the fill ins. Look at Anderson (one hit in four games), and Abreu (two hits in four games). Moncada had three hits. Slumps happen!

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