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Can you add none of the above as a option?

Free Agency: Trevor Story - 112 career wRC+ estimated cost: $18M-22M+ Annually Pluses - Defense (while this has been very muted outside a tremendous 2019, lots of signs he should be a great 2b - he is excellent at DP depth), Power (career .251 iso) Walks (9% walk rae) Minuses - Unknown coors effects Below Avg vs. RHP (98 career wRC+, 83 last year, our division has excellent RHP) Contact (23% K rate) Josh Harrison - 103 2021 wRC+ estimated cost ($4-5M+ annually) Pluses - Contact (13% krate) Not bad vs RHP (98 wRC+) Defense (outs above average loves, loves Josh Harrison) Minuses - Inconsistent offense (career 98 wRC+) BABIP dependent no power Age of decline (34 years old) Jose Iglesias - 91 2021 wRC+ estimated cost ($2-3M+ annually) Pluses - Contact (14% krate) Defense (outs above average likes his 2b more than his SS at this age) Minuses - BABIP dependent offense Bad vs RHP (81 wRC+) Doesn't walk Donovan Solano - 105 2021 wRC+ estimated cost ($2-3M+ annually) Pluses - Slightly above average offensively Average power 96 wRC+ (counts as positive with this group) Minuses - Bad defensively unreliable walk rate, higher k rate 34 years old Andrelton Simmons - 56 2021 wRC+ estimated cost ($6-9M+ annually) Pluses - World class defense at shortstop Can backup TA Plus Contact Minuses - Horrendous offense Zero power BABIP driven offense Career 85 wRC+ vs RHP Trades: Jean Segura - 103 2021 wRC+ COST 14M + 1M 2023 buyout Pluses - Great defense at second Contact (13% K rate) Average vs RHP Minuses - Fathom says he is mopey and has bad vibes Lacks power Expensive money wise Tony Kemp - 127 2021 wRC+ COST $2.5M Pluses - Great OBP in 3 of last 4 years (STEAMER predicts .350 OBP) Career 103 wRC+ vs RHP, 130 wRC+ last year Good, versatile defense by OAA Seems like he should be cheap prospect wise Minuses - Not a strong history of reliable performance to trust any of the above aside from defense Jeff McNeil - 93 2021 wRC+ COST PRE-ARB did not see value Pluses - Career 126 wRC+ 3 years of control Career 132 wRC+ vs RHP Contact 14% kRate Walk Rate 13% Walk Rate Great defense at 2b by OAA very likely the most perfect fit possible Minuses - Bad 2021 Expensive by Prospects/talent likely Ryan McMahon - 95 2021 wRC+ COST PRE-ARB did not see value Pluses - Above average vs RHP (106 wRC+) Good power (.195 iso) Good walk rates Minuses - Bad contact (25-30%K) While excellent last year, in 2019-20 was a ground ball machine a la Leury Garcia Amazing at 3rd, but only average to slightly below average at 2b by OAA Likely requires a very strong package of talent Tommy LaStella - 94 2021 wRC+ COST $6M Pluses - Madrigal-level contact Good BB rate Good GB% career 107 wRC+ vs RHP Minuses - Bad 2021 Back injury in 2021 and struggled after Not good defensively, possibly very bad late bloomer Possible platoon bad w/ Leury Easiest way out of this appears to be Kemp trade. Best way out seems to be McNeil, but I have 5% confidence he's traded.

As we hunker down for a long, lockout-frozen Winter...remember the time we had a wild, electric, delirious, up-for-grabs crowd for a playoff game on the South Side? One that was at peak decibel level for hours and never seemed to let up? Remember cane guy? It's easy to forget given all that followed, but for one night that place was pure baseball joy. It was special. I had friends from across the country texting me about how insane the crowd looked and sounded on TV. Maybe I had gotten ground down by all the "attendance jokes" over the years, but I was honestly shocked at how great it was. Turns out we have the best crowd in MLB. This is good. Here's to hoping for lots more October blackouts.

The Sox are the only major market team in their division. Yet they are operated like a class A affiliate. CWS should be perinneal contenders and major players in the elite FA Market. Sadly, they're not. But to a group of affulent sportsmen who can spend and make money (yes, folks like that really do exist), CWS could be a very attractive team to own.

I am already bored with this shit.

If you just use common sense, you will understand NSC is a fake insider. The White Sox are as secretive as any organization. Why would someone give some random guy, be it their neighbor or brother or friend, all the information to put on twitter? No one would risk their job for that. Some guys get random stuff. One here, one there, or some general information like something is very close...NSC tries to act like he is in the room with RH, KW and JR. It's beyond nonsense.

Thank goodness you are here otherwise delicate eyes might see that headline get sucked into the dark seedy world of owner-supported content until they are just a bunch of tiny manfreds walking around with stop watches timing everyone's movements

The Sheets clip where he says "this place is wild" gives me goosebumps. WWF/WWE wrestlers have long cited Chicago as the greatest place to perform due to the crowd energy. Imagine if we didn't have the worst owner in professional sports history, JR has robbed this city of so much joy, there's a special place in hell for that mother fucker.

I have the utmost confidence that Manfred will handle this situation well.

Festivus is 3 weeks away so...tis the season?

PNoles is a bit of a blowhard asshat, and his takes are frequently off base IMO, but he’s not making up rumors and passing things off as his own sourced info. Neither should be taken as gospel.

I'm not a fan of either, so I say break a pool cue in half and let them go at it.

NSC is soxtalk legend so we ride or die for him

What do people like about Villar? He may have been one of the worst defensive players in baseball in 2020 for that amount of games, and while it's nice he produces evenly from both sides, it's just a slightly above average wRC+ vs. RHP. Add to that - he Ks a LOT. The right side of the infield with Abreu/Villar is potentially the worst right side of the infield I can imagine.

Then create your own website and do whatever you like. Until you actually are willing put in your own work on your own site, instead of welfare stating it off of the backs of the people who volunteer here, it couldn't matter less what you think of the thread titles. In fact, feel free to find yourself a page that fits your obviously delicate state.

I don't see how that makes any sense for us.

I think this is already etched is stone. The trade was, in fact, really, really stupid.

I also don't think there is a snowballs chance of McNeil being traded. I didn't include my personal pet theory of Robinson Cano, shame on me. The roided version of him was still pretty darn good with the Mets. And you basically swap out the keuchel liabilities and ask for cash for 2022 on him.

Neither. NSC is a Troll. PNoles is insufferable. Blocked him on social media years ago because I hated seeing his garbage on my feed daily.

Poor Orland Park finally got to host the winter meetings and this happens.

We're all losers in this one

If this is going to be the example of topics on Soxtalk during a lockout....perhaps we should lockout Soxtalk until MLB is back up and running.

Well I would say his versatility let’s us carry more of our big corner bats on the ML roster since he flexed across infield/outfield so well.

I had the White Sox not picking up Cesar Hernandez's option back before the season ended. Do I have to be on twitter for insider status?

As if this has any effect on the White Sox “plans”

There is no winning answer here.

I saw this on MLB tv so hopefully this isn’t stale or fake news.

One signing affecting future signings seems like a pretty straight forward concept and not something in need of 14 paragraphs, but maybe that's just me.

In 1994, the owners under-estimated the players' resolve. So, the owners took JR's advice and decided to stonewall the negotiations. They embarrassed themselves with the replacement players and then got slapped down by the National Labor Relations Board. The World Series didn't happen and spring training was a joke. Yes, the players will miss their checks, but they have enough money to ride out the storm. Trying to break the union didn't work in 1994-95, didn't happen in 1981, and won't happen now. And, if it does happen, it will come at a high cost. The players don't need to run to the table to make concessions. They have leverage. The owners just don't learn from history. And, as always, the White Sox will get hurt the most. If JR has any power to stop this, he should do what he can. But maybe he doesn't want to stop it, or the other owners don't listen to him anymore.

Both sides need a work stoppage to prove they are really serious. After a few weeks of not talking they will get together again and agree it looks hopeless. Somewhere in late January, they will announce we are in danger of a delay in Spring games and pushing back the season. When the players realize the paychecks aren't coming and the owners can't sell tickets they will get serious on both sides. Very predictable and aggravating to the fan who just wants to watch his team and dream of titles.

Not to the Cubs for Madrigal.

grain of salt, wasn't a press conference answer:

I'm also going to add game 3 was incredible. Game 4 the crowd really really tried until a double play ruined a rally and it was just clear the day wasn't gonna be it. But game 3 was just insanity from an hour before. It got a little quiet at 5-1, but once grandal hit the 2 run it was just absolute madness. Shortest lines I've ever seen at a sox game because nobody ever left their seat.

Why not make a trade that both teams probably could see as improving their current team?

Yeah, the Giolito reaction was priceless as well.

I too am intrigued by a Keuchel/Cano swap if nothing else can come.

My thought was the Sox know Rodon better than anyone, and we've all heard the work ethic stuff. If that's true, I can totally understand not wanting to give a multi-year deal to a guy you're worried might not push himself once he gets that "long term deal" But if that's true, not offering him the QO doesn't seem to make much sense. Seems like it's very little risk. Worst case, he's back with your club on a one year deal where he is still looking for that long term deal.

How can something not be true when it hasn't happened? Who knew you'd start carrying water for white sox leadership this off season. Saying the sox will add shit players instead of high end free agent targets (that you said they were after) somehow isn't true yet they haven't added any of those targets. Amazing

Airing of grievances starts soon

Also not the biggest fan of either but at least pnoles is real and just talks a lot as opposed to aggregating rumors and calling them his own

It sucks ass cause it's all because Rich Paul couldn't keep his mouth shut for like an hour.

Scott Griffin ‏@griffsz 8m8 minutes ago Alabama, USA .@BhamBarons GM Jonathan Nelson at baseball winter meetings: Rumblings of Todd Frazier being dealt @whitesox not done yet @991TheGame

Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal 1m1 minute ago Sources: #RedSox remain strongly in mix for #WhiteSox’s Sale, along with #Nationals.

Guys I'm not very fond of this Benneti/ Stone tandem. They are kind of boring.

I lost a lot of respect for Adam Eaton. Going to the media and sharing sensitive details about what went down behind closed doors is bogus.

@thekapman This White Sox story is one of the most bizarre I have seen in a long time. Good sources tell me it was a condition of LaRoche signing here. @thekapman You are wrong. 100% that he could be there everyday. Otherwise he would not have signed with the White Sox.