SoxBlanco

I’d rather have Clevinger.

Why the Christmas deadline? If Hahn is trying to get the best package, he might wait until late January or into February. If teams start to think they really are keeping him, they might offer something more.

Yep. This is why none of these rumors make sense. We’ve heard that the Mets want to shed salary after signing Correa, but we’ve also heard the Sox might want to trade Hendriks to shed some salary. It doesn’t make sense. That’s why I came up with the unrealistic three-team trade earlier.

Maybe if we throw in Cease, it’ll get finalized.

Bullpens arms are so up and down…so unpredictable. Nobody has any clue how Diekman will look this year. Same with Kelly. Same with Bummer. Same with…you got the point. Sure, you could say that about other baseball players too, but it’s especially true for relief pitchers.

That’s surprising to me. My memory (simply by watching him last year) is that he has one of the worst arms in the league. I thought we were getting an above average defender with a horrible arm.

You hearing something? Or just speculating?

That’s why I proposed that three team trade. It was the only way I could figure out a way to give salary relief to the Mets and the Sox.

Well the perk that you didn’t mention is that we are unloading Grandal. If that’s not valuable (honestly, I don’t know if it is), then the deal is horrendous for the Sox.

How about something like this: Mets get: Hendriks (and they save $8M) White Sox get: McCann, Escobar, Dylan Smith or another random Tigers pitching prospect (and they save $10M) Tigers get: Grandal, Baty (and take on $18M). This is a first attempt. Let me know why it sucks (because it probably does) and we can adjust it accordingly.

Any chance we can get a third team involved in this that is rebuilding and is willing to take Grandal along with a prospect or two?

Thanks for the info. At least we know Benintendi will be leagues better than what we’ve had out there the past few years. Anybody who makes this play is ok by me…

I looked at zero of his advanced stats. I just assumed when you get an award that says you are the best defensive left fielder in the American League, even though there is always some politics involved in the voting and your offense plays a role when it shouldn't, it would at least mean you are above average that year.

He wasn’t clearly above average two years ago when he won a gold glove?

Yeah, I bumped his post in the off-season rumors thread, but I’m trying to figure out what we could trade that would lower their payroll. Unless we just take on some Hendriks money. Would we have to take McCann and Escobar off their hands? If so, we’d need a solid prospect like Baty.

Are the Sox taking on some of the Hendriks money in that proposed deal, or are the Mets increasing payroll even more?

Bump.

Thanks for doing that, but I was hoping to see the projections. I didn’t realize they weren’t available anymore.

When exactly did the doctors recommend surgery?

What were the net hitting and pitching differences between the two teams going into last season?

Both of those guys are making close to what Liam makes. Would that even be considered a salary dump for us?

Huh?? It was a hypothetical. Did you miss the word “If”?

And sometimes players can play through injuries, which is exactly what he showed in his rehab stint. Should we have shut down Hendriks also because of his UCL?

I feel like this is easy to say in hindsight. They were attempting to make a comeback in the division. They needed a lefty bat with some pop. During Grandal's rehab, he had a combined OPS of 1.235 between Birmingham and Charlotte, and it looked like he had some pop. He hit a few home runs during his short, 12-game rehab stint. There was no indication that he was toast, and the Sox really needed his bat. The year before, he came back from an injury in late August and completely carried the offense for the final month of the regular season. It was worth taking the risk that he could do it again. Yes, it turned out that it was a horrible idea, but at the time, I don't think it was a bad decision.

Phenomenal response. Much appreciated.