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Yeah it better be totally false because it would be beyond horrible. I think even one of the foodie accounts said it was BS.

Because we're a fucking cheapskate mickey mouse operation down to the penny and there are absolutely no free lunches (10D) insofar as JR concerned, esp when the FO pushed his boy out. Other than that, there are no reasons for trading LH for salary relief.

Yep .....more than likely. That Lion in Texas guy says Angels are also in on LH.

Ahh...I forgot it was Levine. I thought that payroll report thing was by some reputable writer. You're right if it's Bruce then it was just a negotiation plant to make teams think that we were "fine" payroll wise when in reality JR probably threw a shoe at RHs head after the 10D signing and said "I said a hard payroll of 180M and you just made another signing ya shmuck!"

I know but the optics of the Sox trading LH for salary relief and allowing in the same transaction an ALC rival to get a young left handed savage is a non starter. They couldn't show their faces in public after that not that they can now anyway.

Yep between this report and Pal saying it's basically just a salary dump this is really bad. I guess they have to pay the piper on the 10D signing after all. At least get something halfway decent out of it and by halfway decent I don't mean McCann. LH for Guillorme. You get a useful cheap high OBP vs RHP LH bat with legit great D at 2B and you get JRs prized "salary relief" It's NOT a good deal at all in the abstract BUT its better than the crap that writer was talking about. I find it hard to believe they have this robust market for LH and yet they would be forced to accept an inferior offer just so long as it included salary relief. How bout trade LH for legit return and move Kelly for salary relief. Yes, it's doubly bad for the BP but at least we aren't giving away a stud closer for free. FML

Well if it's for salary relief why the heck is McCann being included in these discussions? That eliminates the salary relief right there.

Ugh please tell me it's not just a pure salary dump? I thought JR OK'd 10D signing without a corresponding salary dump, wtf? If they need salary relief send off Kelly or someone not as valuable. LH should fetch a real return that meaningfully addresses needs. This organization is such garbage.

McNeil and McCann for LH makes sense. NYM need to throw in a little bit of cash for JM 2024 salary.

It seems they might be able to do better than that just for Kelly at this point.

It sucks because the deal involves trading LH in a transaction involving Baty but the Sox aren't ending up with Baty.

Jimmy said if he is traded the return would be really good. This isn't really good

It's true he has no power but unlike NM he has very good defense and gets OBP a ton vs RHP. He had 118 WRC+ vs RHP last year even without power. He could be the LH platoon 2B vs RHP and against LHP we could play Romy/Sosa. He's worth about 5m in surplus value so we can probably get him for ReyLo and just keep LH if no one is making a blowout offer.

Colas is the savage middle of the order LH bat. It might take a few months to adjust but he should be the 4 or 5 hitter relatively soon. I dont think anyone they get in a trade at 2B is gonna be a 3,4,5 hitter. Neither McNeil nor Guillorme fits that profile.

If 10D can hit about 17 HRs (very possible at GRF) with OBP of .350+ and above avg D that will be enough for me.

Id rather have Guillorme for ReyLo straight up if NYM would go for that than signing Segura. The value is about equal.

What do they have that we would want?

He didn't win us jack s%*#. The division was garbage and the team was loaded. They should have been better than a 93 win team that got throttled in its only playoff series.

This. Savagery shouldn't be messed with.

MOAR left handed savages! MOAR!!!!!!!

Yeah you stick him in AAA to start and see if he lights a fire under YM to really perform. If he does, having two savage 3B is a good problem to have and you can use one as a trade chip. If not, move YM to 2nd and if he doesn't like it, that's too damn bad.

Agreed. No way you trade Hendriks to NYM without getting Baty back. Hendricks for Baty and McCann.

Yep....grab that young left handed savage asap

Yep. I think it was that Mayer dude (NYM writer) that was talking about it.

That's terrible value.