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    "Hawk" Speaks...

    in Pale Hose Talk

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    8 hours ago, Texsox said:

    I'm so sick of hearing about his loyalty. There are so many players he sent packing instead of having them finish their careers here. He's screwed over the fans that have made him rich. He forced a strike when the team had it's best chance in decades to compete. Locked out players and held the strongest line. Mark, Frank, Jose, Carlton . . . 

    He's loyal to cheap deals, and lap dog executives that won't question him. It's not the kind of loyalty anyone should admire. 

    This is what is referred to as "cronyism". 

    Jerry likes his cronies. Guys who will be willing to stroke his ego and not rock the boat. Meanwhile, the franchise continues to be consistently disappointing on the field and the same front office flops repeatedly and fails to develop even a semblance of the sheer talent they drunkenly stumbled into. 

    They spent years collective farm pieces to build up a core and what do we have to show for it? 1 legitimate playoff appearance and in turn, a swift exit from said playoffs. Then back in the tank almost immediately. 

    I'm getting absolutely tired of Chicago sports and their insistence of holding onto failing executives and coaches because their incompetent owners continue to value their yes-man antics, all while ignoring their infinitesimal ability to put together a competent sports team. 

     

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    8/16 Game Thread: White Sox @ Cubs 7:05CT

    in 2023 Season in Review

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    I legitimately HATE this team and this organization. 

    Like, I can't even just ignore their existence and be indifferent to their sheer ineptitude. They just continue to find ways to make themselves too visible on the social media-sphere to ignore. 

    It's an embarrassment to be associated with this collection of pathetic, worthless losers and this season, they've consistently gone out of their way to amplify their circus-like antics both on and off the field in a way that is impossible for the sports world to ignore. 

    Get. Fucked. 

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    f*** This Organization

    in Pale Hose Talk

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    On 8/5/2023 at 8:35 AM, reiks12 said:

    What i love about this post is that it was at 1:30 in the morning. Ive been there after a few drinks myself. Ive been there sober too.

    This is the darkest era of my White Sox fandom. I was born in the Chicago suburbs. My dad was a Yankees fan but I wanted to cheer for a team that was local. I watched both the Cubs and Sox growing up and loved both of them. I regret not ultimately picking the Cubs. 

    I dont see us crawling out of this rut the FO and Jerry put us in. It will take YEARS for me to find my passion in cheering for baseball again. I will drink the best champagne when JR finally croaks.

    They say that you say what you truly feel when you're at your most inebriated. 

    I've had my fair share of sport rants, and sometimes I will sit back and say that this was stupid. But the few I've had on the White Sox. I'll wake up hung the hell over and re-read the comment and be like..."Nope, that about sums it up." 

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    The Manager

    in Pale Hose Talk

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    11 hours ago, The Kids Can Play said:

    You're right Grifol never got the buy-in and respect from the players. But guess what, that is on Grifol. He came into the initial press conference with some pretty bold statements of how he was going to change the culture and effort on this team. When a guy like Bruce Botchy goes to the Rangers and changes that team's culture, he did it because he is a leader. There was nobody stopping Grifol from taking control of this team and earning that respect. That is what leaders do.

    I'm sorry but Grifol failed miserably and firing him does make a big difference for next year. I know this team will suck for several more years, but at least it would be nice to have a manager who could demand respect, effort and work more on baseball fundamentals. If Francona or Botchy or any other great manager had this Sox team over the next few years, the team would still be bad. However at least there would be effort, passion and players playing smarter baseball.

    Because Bochy has this important thing called credibility. 

    Bochy is a 3 time World Series champion and has actually managed professional baseball within the previous 10 years. 

    Grifol spent the last 10 years coaching in one of the few organizations arguably more dysfunctional than the White Sox. 

    Bochy knew failure and learned from it and turned the Giants into a consistent winner for much of his time there. 

    Grifol has only known failure and it has carried over to this dumpster fire organization. 

    It's not his fault at the end of the day. He should've never been the pick, just like TLR shouldn't have been the pick in '21. This franchise can't get out of its own way.

    Fire Rick Hahn

    in Pale Hose Talk

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    I'm 100% convinced that firing Hahn will change absolutely nothing. 

    This franchise is stuck in utter purgatory until we get an owner who has a vision of putting together a competitive franchise. Jerry has ZERO initiative to change anything. He is making money, he has his rings. 

    We saw the Bulls replace GarPax with Eversley and AK, and it changed basically nothing. 

    It's no different with Jerry's other money child, because he will just repeat what got him here. He'll hire somebody he knows into the role, hold onto them for WAY too long, and do f*** all to address how utterly far behind this franchise is in terms of farm development and analytical reliance. 

    He doesn't care about winning. 

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    White Sox Mgr Speculation Thread

    in Pale Hose Talk

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    I really cannot fathom the logic behind bringing Ozzie back, other than the fact that he won a series almost 2 decades ago. 

    FFS, we literally just saw a retread crash and burn because the dude was out of touch after not managing for a decade and their solution is to bring in ANOTHER retread that hasn't managed in a decade? 

    We're going with that over a guy who's been at the forefront of arguably the most consistent franchise of the last 4 years or a guy who's been part of 2 World Series titles and 4 pennant winners (Yanks in '09, Mets in '15, Nats in '19, Phils in '22)? 

    Seriously, I'd argue it makes even less sense than TLR did. At least TLR was a consistently strong manager in St Louis and went out on top the last time he managed. Ozzie was out of touch back in 2010, much less now. 

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    Momentum or Big Tease?

    in Pale Hose Talk

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    The Tigers have the 3rd worst record in the league. 

    We're just a week removed from dropping 3 of 4 against a terrible Royals squad. 

    These next 7 games are going to be make or break for this team. If they can't move past Houston and Cleveland, I don't think it ever happens this year. 

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    Fire Tony Chant

    in Pale Hose Talk

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    32 minutes ago, ShoeLessRob said:

    I have tickets to one last game this year, will they confiscate my fire Tony banner/poster? 

    Just tape some generic bullshit over the banner and then yank it off when you get past the gate. 

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