Look at Ray Ray Run

There was literally nothing intelligent about ChiSox1917's ignorant post filled with inaccuracies and mistruths. The fact that the guy wrote this sentence: "i dont agree that their experiences trump impersonal data and statistics that there is a systemic issue of racism in this country." Shows how ignorant and misinformed he is. People that continue to spew this nonsense should not be respected for "having a differing opinion." Their unwillingness to listen is exactly why things haven't improved for so many.

Willfull ignorance is not an excuse for bigoted views. Saying its disrespectful to the veterans while not listening to the actual meaning of it - understanding it has nothing to do with the military - is the problem. Also, when did the military take over the national anthem again? Did I miss that? TlR was telling a black man how he should and shouldn't protest systemic injustice. He may not have been trying to be racist, but it's actions and people like Tony whose willful ignorance has exasperated and carried on these racist systems for eternity. I'm done making excuses for idiots like that.

Uh, yes. I'm going to risk my career to stop my chemical company from polluting the Mississippi. One is literally killing people; the other is... uh... a baseball game. Same difference

My goodness; as much as I think we like to view ourselves as moralistic absolutists who would always do what is right... I have a hard time buying this. 1. Manfred doesn't care; he was told multiple times and ignored it 2. You will be done with baseball for good; no one will hire someone that does that. However right or wrong. I think Hinch had more control and power and obviously could have stopped it; it's a cop out to argue otherwise imo.

by not mortgaging any part of rhe future for a shortened weird covid season? Yeah I'm not buying that for one second. Jerry's mad that hahn didn't spend and invest more at the deadline? Please.

Agree with you as well; I mentioned in another post but the stage clearly got too big and the guy was a nervous wreck. Pacing... hands on the knees... nervous face.. etc. He blew it and is being held accountable. In big spots every .01 run matters and renteria choking hurt the team in those spots. The termination was 100% warranted BUT it wasn't Rick renterias fault they didn't win it all.

Super bummed; opened this thread assuming the managerial candidate list news had been updated but it was just an opinion.

The umpires had a bigger impact on the White Sox win % in the playoffs than the Manager did. My point is essentially the Sox over performed - you will justify that performance as solely a representation of PD and career years and etc. Ricky didn't make optimal game decisions late in the season, but those decisions direct impact on the game is smaller than what it is represented as here. For example, in a 3-3 game in the 7th there were 42+ opportunities to do something prior, just counting outs, and there were multiple AB's with RISP, or multiple errors that put them in the spot; maybe a missed signed, or etc... you get the point. A game in which Renteria puts the wrong reliever in during the 8th, when the game is tied or Sox are up 1, but Madrigal made 2 errors early that led to 3 runs was not a game that Renteria "lost." And this is exactly where the idea that a manager loses all these games is nonsense. The Manager made an ERROR just like a player did. A certain amount of errors and that leads to an increase in expected runs against or decrease in runs for; enough of those added up and it can equal a win. A manager might impact some runs over the season, but he DIDN't lose the game in those games. The players had many more opportunities than the manager to make a difference, and they simply didn't get it done. The biggest difference too is that a managing error - even when egregious - isn't worth a whole run like a fielding error or baserunning gaffe. It's putting a guy who is 6% more likely to give up a hit, or 8% more likely to allow a run to score. It's not like the choice is between a guy with a .100 BAA and a guy with a .600 BAA. Renteria made a lot of errors down the stretch.

I agree with both of you, for the record .

I've posted the article here a few times but cooper is directly credited with helping turn it around in an August piece done by Fegan from two years back.

I mean, there's only no evidence if you ignore Giolitos own words.

Good info, thanks.

Thought that became pretty clear when I left the thread for hours and the conversation continued on between 6 other posters but apparently orlando has them all blocked

what are you even talking about? Go cry somewhere else. We were discussing a manager in a manager thread. Its not a tony la russa news only thread. If it were your posts in it are worthless as well.

Dude I answered the question twice. I'm not going to repeat myself just to carry on a never ending discussion.