Look at Ray Ray Run

My issue is he's 18 and his last name is zavala

Quantity better but don't love pitching prospects as the primary gain

I wanted to move cease before anyone else. I feel confident that cease is not a regret worthy move.

Based on what? They shouldn't move robert imo.

Unless the White Sox don't think they'll be good in the next 5 years, they have no business trading Luis. You're going to trade Robert in hopes of what? Finding a player like Robert in return?

those guys are constantly openly rooting against things in their best interest as sports radio hosts. It's amazing honestly.

The Chicago area market is in no way split 67/33. Even the most bias of city-centric charts put it closer to 60/40.

I see this all the time here, people citing age. The ONLY reason Matt Thompson isn't worth a bag of baseball's is because of his age. If you think he never figures it out, this is when you move him. Bailey Horn at least is closer to the big leagues and a lefty reliever so more likely to get some actual MLB years out of him. No issues with the logic behind this trade. Are the White Sox right about their internal evaluations? Well, that's the scary part for everyone but the only people who value Thompson are uber-Sox fans.

Who are you talking to? You're not changing the world by asking your favorite team to leave over this. We've been bent over by billionaires our entire lives and the one time it'll benefit Sox fans is where they draw the line. You can't make this s%*# up.

Oh my, somehow medical debt forgiveness is related to a ballpark. I hope all you loud mouth world savers are protesting at every major development city wide, and looking into the tax breaks and forgiveness/exemptions (which is the exact same thing) deeply. Then if the deal falls through, I'll cry and laugh as some huge tax break goes to some other developers to develop some crap none of you care about.

Holmes, the champion of Bridgeport. Bridgeport doing great, it just has 20% the population density of the Loop. Bridgeport has also done literally nothing to support the sox. I know dick thinks that's 100% Jerry's job but I'd disagree. Jerry Reinsdorf does NOT matter. If you're a white sox fan and care about the organization, this move is great. People fixating on Reinsdorf and his past are talking about irrelevant nonsense. The past happened, it's over with. This is about the future of the team, not Jerry's past shenanigans. This should be the one time every single Sox fan wants Jerry Reinsdord to win.

Because it makes his heirs more money and actually does leave the franchise in a better place than when he bought it... the one time the org benefits from Jerry trying to maximize profits.

Only hesitancy is we Sox fans really don't get nice things often. Hard to imagine. But there seems to be good movement and I don't see any other options out there so I'll be optimistic this gets done.

Yeah, I bet 3 years after this stadium is finished, 97 year old Jerry will still be around doing those things. Do people not understand that Jerry won't be here for the new stadium... at least not for long.

Once you get off michigan, it is, because there's nothing designed to draw tourists past there. It's all office buildings. This could change part of that dynamic.

Exactly! The exciting thing about owning the White Sox (becoming the next owner) is the Sox are a legit brand. They have a distinct identity, logo and place in culture. This happening to the Sox, and let's be honest this is Jerry's last effort to maximize the sale value (he isn't seeing this through to 2030), could propel this team to being a premier level franchise under new ownership and a winning culture. They'd be an urban team in the heart of the most beautiful urban setting in the world.

Yes, vacant but not undesirable. The site required a lot of work and cleanup and the location has only improved. You've spent pages arguing against everything about this so its difficult to believe this is something you support.

The current park is fine, the location isn't great. I also don't know how to break the news on this, but developing the parking lots with restaurants and bars and retail in an area of the city that wasn't very popular, and was actually a rough neighborhood for a long time, doesn't make much sense. You're telling me the place will sit vacant when the Sox leave... that doesn't speak well of your belief that Jerry should have built that area up. If other developers see no promise, why should he have? The 78 has been a place people wanted to develop. It's not at all similar to 35th and shields.

There's more support for this deal from my non-chicagoian loop-living friends than there is on soxtalk. Honestly unbelievable

And the stability and longevity of the org in this city. I'm a white sox fan and my son will be, and I looked forward to very few things more than sharing those same experiences with my son that I shared with my dad. People have been so broken here they'd rather see the Sox playing in another city or a deadbeat location just because they hate Jerry. They hate him more than they'd like to see a dream-like scenario happen to a team they love... over what? Allocated tax dollars by a state and city that has pissed away tax dollars and endless things I didn't support. And mostly tourist tax dollars! And for what? So that plot of land can remained undeveloped until the city eventually grants some sweetheart deal to some other developer? Give me a break.

If it comes to fruition is tbd, but there's a proposal for that spot in addition so.... The City has a chance to develop a plot of land around small business and residential -- no huge office space being wasted. How it's paid for really is semantical because there's no world that exists in which a huge project like this gets funded the way YOU want. That's just the truth. Reading pages and pages of Sox fan fight against the betterment of the organization and its long term health, all in the name of principals that are only being applied to the White Sox, is truly baffling. The amount of people that want to see the org die on this forum is beyond odd.

And rents will be initially cheap, relatively speaking, meaning a restaurant scene can take hold for a decade plus similarly to Fulton market development. The south loop is one of the last underdeveloped areas in the city. I've said this 100 times but this would be a massive W for the city IF done right

You know businesses pay tax, right? I get you don't like this. I have no idea why Sox fans have decided theyre going to put their fiscal foot down on this project and only this one. I guess it's because complaining and misery is a Sox fan way.

Especially given the proximity to Michigan Ave and the loop which draws a ton of tourist foot traffic. You'd basically be expanding the area.

Sox fans sure are a miserable bunch.