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    Sox looking at building in South Loop

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    31 minutes ago, South Side Hit Men said:

    Ignorant statement. Our nation has been hallowed out by the blatant kleptocracy of the past 40 years. These are literal slave jobs and all the profits goes to Bezos and his whore.

    This will cost $7B-$10B over 30-40 years after counting the upfront costs, the taxes never recovered, the additional renovations, and most importantly the substantial interest paid each and every years to funds this s%*#.

    $800M was spent to pay off the $40M the duplicitous and or blatantly ignorant media focuses on the past 14 years. Billions have been spent since 1988 on the Sox stadium, fixing several aspects of s%*# Jerry insisted on, and then giving the fucking worthless 10 games a year Bears a boondoggle.

    Neither of these lecherous families are going anywhere. Any replacement market will be much smaller than what they would be leaving. Jerry literally called all you rubes idiots when reflecting on his “negotiations” in the 1980s, when those empty threats and these empty threats were all complete and utter bullshit.

    Let the Bears and Sox move to Salt Lake City. Good luck with that.

    No sh!t Sherlock. I didn’t create the f’d up system we are living in. I do know however that the 78 with a MLB stadium and a new ownership group are way more beneficial to the City of Chicago than all of the freeloading Amazon centers.

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    Sox looking at building in South Loop

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    1 hour ago, baseball_gal_aly said:

    Bye Jerry. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. 

     

    You people are dumber than a bag of hammers. This is how the world works. 

    Between 2000 and 2022, Amazon has received more than $5 billion in subsidies as part of deals with communities to build fulfillment centers. The goal is understandable: Officials want to create jobs and grow local economies.

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    Cease To Padres per Passan

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    2 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said:

    This draft lottery has gotten me pissed.  Time to f*** over one of these small market franchises who are caking off this corrupt system.  If BAL wants Cease, then the price is going to start at Mayo, Hjerstad, & Norby.  If they don’t like it, then they can wait and pay an even steeper price at the deadline.  And if they don’t like that, then I’m trading Luis Robert to the Rays for whoever Bob fucking Seymour is.  At this point we got nothing to lose and I need me a fat Orioles package at all costs.  f*** Manfred & Jerry for putting us in this situation.

    Bob Seymour = Alek Thomas teammate at Mount Carmel

    Do the White Sox need an offensive adjustment?

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    37 minutes ago, manbearpuig said:

    Grandal will definitely help. Moncada is becoming frustrating and should move down.

    I posted this in the game thread yesterday, but pretty crazy how we were a Machado signing away from Moncada being the long-term 2B.

    I disagree. Lets try to get Moncada going. Move him up in the lineup. He hits best (with protection) when he's in the 2 or 3 hole..

     

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    Trade Whispers - Starting Pitchers

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    10 hours ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said:

    I’d rather just get Musgrove and give up lesser assets than go “all in” for Gray. Like I said, Sonny is good but I don’t view him as a true difference maker.

    You are going to have to give up the same amount of assets for Musgrove as you would for Gray. 

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    Offseason Targets

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    1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said:

    I'm sure a ~$150M payroll target is unreasonable and some of these estimates are going to be way off, but holy shit would I quickly do the following and then just go to fucking war:

    • Bauer = 4/$90M
    • Pederson = 2/$20M
    • McCann = 2/$14M
    • Colome = 2/$14M
    • Kluber = 1/$9M

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    Bauer - whatever it takes 

    Pederson - perfect platoon for Engel

    McCann - Captain clubhouse needed with LaRussa here 

    Colome - closer until the kids are ready 

    Quintana - Lefty starter for the backend of the rotation 

     

    Let’s go!

     

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    A Realistic Offseason

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    1 hour ago, Orlando said:

    Sometimes I feel like this board is 55-45 split favoring the Cubs. I wish there was one thread that they didn't come up. I doubt the Sox come up this much on cubs forums.

    Agreed. 

    F*ck the Cubs and their lemming fans. If you want to count all the transplants that sheepishly go to Wrigley then fine it's 60-40 Cubs.

    If you compare people born and bred here it's 50-50.

     

    A Realistic Offseason

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    7 hours ago, Pal said:

    Gotta grab Grandal and Wheeler now. Supplement that with one of Odorizzi/Miley/Hamels/Ryu and one of Moose/Castellanos/Ozuna/Encarnacion. Trade for Marte or Pederson.

    Agreed.

    Sign Wheeler 5 years/$90M

    Sign Grandal 4 years/$68M

    Sign Keuchel 3 years/$45M

    Sign Abreu 2 years/$28M

    Trade for Joc Pederson 1 year/$8.5M

    A Realistic Offseason

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    19 minutes ago, Eminor3rd said:

    This is certainly correct if you think Machado is only a 3 win player going forward and that Moncada's breakout was the result of the position change. I, personally, don't think either is true, but I can't prove it either way so it isn't worth arguing. If Machado now projects as a 4-5 win player going forward instead of a 5-6 win player, and Moncada still takes the strides he takes to become a 4-5 win guy himself as a second basemen, I'd argue the team is in a much better position and still has room to add significant pieces without cracking into top payroll range.

    But the real problem I have is this: even IF Machado turns into a bust, there was no way to know that at the time. At the time, it represented one of the biggest opportunities in history to get safe, elite production for an entire competitive window. And the money was NOT spent then. Sure, it didn't go away, but I have to wonder now how much of it was ever really there in the first place. And whatever opportunities exist to spend it now are nearly always going to be lesser opportunities.

    Like, Cole now is the prize. But a 31-year old Cole is absolutely a worse buy than a 26-year old Machado was. The upside is similar but the floor is SO much lower. Injury could make him near replacement level at any moment. Every likes to shit on Machado's down year but it was still worth 3.5 wins.

    But, all that said: you're right. What I'm proposing is risky. I just think it's the only way this team, given its restraints, can every really get over the top. At least, without a tremendous amount of luck.

    29 year old Cole not 31 year old Cole.

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    A Realistic Offseason

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    5 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said:

    I am not a big champion of Gardner, but he's one of the better stop gap options.  How can you say Gardner makes no sense, and then in the next sentence suggest a trade for Reddick who by all measures is an inferior player to Gardner.  Only positive to Reddick is he is a couple years younger, but for 1 season that doesn't matter much.  I don't think anyone here is interested in giving Gardner a 3 year $30M deal, but if you can get him for 1 year $8-10M and all trade options in RF are too expensive or don't work out for whatever reason, there are definitely worse options in RF for a year.

    Reddick 2019 stats: .275/.319/.409; OPS .728; 89 OPS+

    Gardner: .251/.325/.503; OPS .829; 117 OPS+

    If we are picking a stop gap for RF it would be wise to actually pick a RF. Just saying.

    Wow - the love for Gardner is mind boggling.

     

     

    A Realistic Offseason

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    1 minute ago, Balta1701 said:

    UZR has him being a slightly positive to neutral fielding RF for the last 6 seasons. He's not great there, but he is a dramatic upgrade from our RF defense last year.

    Baseball reference has him playing only one game (8 innings) for his entire career in RF.

     

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