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  1. 7 hours ago, Eminor3rd said:

    Yeah, well he WAS considered a defensive stud for a bit when catcher framing quickly became like the ONLY quantifiable part of catcher defense, and so everyone got obsessed with it. You never hear about it anymore because (1) it turns out it can be taught relatively easily, even to veterans, and pretty much every team does that now, so the difference between good and bad framers is way smaller than it was before, and (2) the teams that were on it quickly have pretty much de-emphasized it, because they've decided that game-calling and pitcher relationships seem to be even more valuable, especially given point #1.

    But it isn't unusual for the he White Sox to "catch up" to modern trends after there's little value left to be gained,

     

    There's zero truth to anything you said. Framing is incredibly important. Sure guys can get better at it but there's a massive gap between Realmuto's framing and someone like Collins. And it's not zero sum game between framing and game-calling.

    Really though, its amusing to see how even one of the best players at his position, Grandal, isn't good enough for half our fanbase, and gets shredded by the "eye test" crowd. It's also depressing though because the default position seems to be:

    Any Sox player = terrible

    Any non-Sox player = amazing 

     

  2. 8 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

    Once again, last 2-3 years.

    I mean, we'd also love to have 2014-15 Jose Abreu back, right?

    Or Adam Eaton?

     

    I mean, if we go back another 5 years, we'd have HoFer Albert Pujols and not the broken down versions of him or Miguel Cabrera.

     

    I did since 2019, now try again

  3. 4 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

    Yeah, assessing much further back than a 2-3 year time frame of statistics (just because 2020 was truncated) makes almost no sense, especially for a catcher closing in on his mid 30's and leaving the early 30's in the rearview mirror.

    The only ones who seemingly beat that prior trendline were Sal Perez and Buster Posey.

    Ok. Since 2019, Grandal ranks:

    WAR: 2nd

    Defensive Rating: 7th

    GP: 4th

    You and Rob might want to find a different player to me statistically wrong criticisms about

     

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  4. 4 minutes ago, ShoeLessRob said:

    Did I ever say we should trade him? Cool with the stats from 2015. Let’s talk about the last two years when he’s been on OUR team. has he been injured both years? When you watch him play does he look like a gold glove catcher to you? I’m ignoring the throwing runners out, cause that’s just as much as the pitching staff fault. 

    lol. He had a knee injury this year. Nobody disputes that.

  5. Just now, ShoeLessRob said:

    Sure that’s your OPINION, just like mine was mine. I watch the games the same as you. I’m just sharing why other fans think he’s not as “good” as you say he is in your original post 🤙🏼

    Your OPINION runs contrary to basic stats. Since 2015, Grandal ranks among MLB C

    WAR: 1st

    Defensive Rating (Fangraphs): 1st

    Games Played: 3rd

    Yeah that definitely sounds like the injury prone, horrible defensive catcher we should trade away, lol

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  6. 14 minutes ago, ShoeLessRob said:

    Cause he’s injured a lot, can’t block pitches in the dirt, calls a mediocre game (partially due to his inability to block in the dirt), and his framing is overrated. I don’t think anyone hates on his ability on the offensive side of things. 

    I'm still in awe. Let me guess, you think Moncada sucks too, right?

  7. 5 minutes ago, ShoeLessRob said:

    Cause he’s injured a lot, can’t block pitches in the dirt, calls a mediocre game (partially due to his inability to block in the dirt), and his framing is overrated. I don’t think anyone hates on his ability on the offensive side of things. 

    If posters like you were GM we'd be 0-162 every season.

    I mean wow, what a terrible take

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  8. On 10/18/2021 at 8:41 PM, joesaiditstrue said:

    Abreu (and TA) will retire here, these threads are dumb

    Guys I would look at possibly moving would be Grandal (I didn't know he was this bad defensively) and possibly Eloy or Vaughn, use them to upgrade at spots like RF and SP

    I'm not saying trade all 3 guys, but I would definitely look at moving one of them if the return was decent

    lol at complaining about these threads then suggesting trading Grandal.

    Grandal has played 139 games since 2020 and put up 5.3 fWAR. That's elite production, and obviously he was playing hurt for most of the year.

    How do so many of our fans not understand how good Grandal is?

  9. The always hilarious 1st offseason meltdown thread from the worst fanbase in all of sports.

    This thread is already embarassing. The #1 offseason priority needs to be for 75% of Soxtalk to become Cubs fans.

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  10. 8 hours ago, Colome's Hat said:

    I would love Semien.  I think it's too early to tell with him.  They also did just draft a Shortstop who can likely be groomed as a second baseman as well.

    Everyone would love Semien. He leads MLB in WAR since 2019. He'll get something like 6 yrs $180 million most likely

  11. 3 hours ago, pcq said:

    Baseball needs 30 man rosters very clearly but too ******** cheep. It will only get worse as pitch counts go down. 

    No it doesn't. 26 expanding to 28 is pretty ideal.

    Not everything requires a dumb "the cheap owners won't allow it" comment. Especially when the difference for most teams would only be a few million dollars

  12. Just now, fathom said:

    But Kimbrel is supposed to be good enough to not have to worry about getting squeezed or facing a slugger.  His fastball command has been garbage, the velocity is down and hitters are crushing it.

    His velo is not down. He's struggling with command but why lie about something as easy to verify as velo?

  13. 2 hours ago, hankchifan said:

    IsBummer better than Kimbrel? Why then we traded for Kimbrel and gave up Madrigal and Heuer?  We could use a contact hitter like Madrigal, which we lack now. We need to give the ball to Kimbrel and not throw him under the bus like TLR did in the 8 th like a Yermin.

    How would Madrigal help right now? He's injured.

    Agree on Kimbrel though. We have a 11.5 game division lead. Got to see if Kimbrel can be the set up guy now, rather than have roles up in the air in October

  14. 5 hours ago, joesaiditstrue said:

    man Keuchels ERA has exploded over the last month or so

    Why do people post false statements like this. This is just like the fans who bash Moncada for not being able to hit with RISP when he has better numbers in those situations.

    On July 3 Keuchel had an ERA of 4.48.

    Today his ERA has exploded all the way to......uh 4.48.

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  15. 10 minutes ago, wegner said:

    Wow they've got the Padres at under 50%?  They must have a tough remaining schedule.

    Padres started Jake Arrieta today in Coors. That's where their rotation is at right now lol

  16. 7 hours ago, joejoedairy said:

    They DFA'd him for Wright, correct?

    Seems like they could have held onto him.

    Why though? He had a 7.20 ERA in AAA and almost certainly would have been dropped from the 40 in the off-season. Wright probably gets dropped from the 40 in the off-season too but he's likely the better option to help fill innings right now

    He's a good pickup for someone like the O's but without being able to throw 99-101 like he used to be able it's hard to see him sticking in a MLB bullpen.

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