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    Who would you have hired?

    Poll as to who you would hire as the next manager of the White Sox.
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    Robert Gold Glove

    Leaving the election out of it, these awards are voted on through year end, and they should all be announced during the playoffs/world series when you have the broadest / highest baseball attention span. The hard core fans are the only ones interested at this point, anyone else glances over them at best. The NHL is the only other sport that does it this way, and they are not known for any marketing savvy. The NBA and NFL announce their MVPs and other awards during the playoffs, with the NFL naming their HOF inductees Super Bowl weekend to maximize exposure. MLB should also have their HOF ceremony the day after the All Star Game, vs. a few Sundays later slated opposite a full schedule of MLB games.
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    White Sox Radio Headed to ESPN 1000

    I haven’t heard it either, have heard of these two Bernstein incidents. Never heard Holmes referred to as “creepy” before. If we had a poll here who was creepier, Bernstein or Holmes, I’d wager there would be a similar landslide for Bernstein as there was for SoxTalk posters voting Hinch/Other over LaRussa. Getting back on topic, I am looking forward to the announcement of the broadcasting team.
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    White Sox Radio Headed to ESPN 1000

    Bernstein is arrogant, painful to listen to, sanctimonious, and should have gotten shitcanned for his breast tweets a few years ago. The whole station is a dumpster fire, if it weren’t for the internet clips isolating White Sox discussion from the 95% Bears / Bullshit, wouldn’t listen at all. ESPN is even worse. Wonder if Carmen will get another shot at the Apple, in reference to the 2005 interview linked below. https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-2005-04-06-0504060365-story.html
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    White Sox Radio Headed to ESPN 1000

    Yes, I think I got better as the short season went on, but there was some growing pains for sure. I do like analytics mixed in with "old school" perspective. I think the pair can improve over time, They had a weird and difficult short season to get up to speed, with road games broadcast via visiting team feeds on monitors. It had to be difficult at times just to ensure the technology worked. They weren't annoying to me at least, whereas Benetti and Stone's shtick at times is annoying when I watched via the internet feed.
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    White Sox Radio Headed to ESPN 1000

    I hope Laurence Holmes makes it over to the station as well, either as PBP and or a host. He's the only regular host left I listen to on The Score (Matt Spiegel is good covering baseball). Don't listen to sports radio otherwise, beyond select WSCR clips online covering the White Sox. Andy Masur seemed to improve over time, though I did miss Farmer. Would assume D.J. is returning. Dave Wills returning to Chicago would be nice as well. Plenty of good broadcasters should want to cover the White Sox over the next few years, assuming the pay is market rate.
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    Tony La Russa named Manager

    He has 324 times minimum plus Spring Training to speak to the mostly lapdog Chicago media. If he can't face them more than once before March, it will definitely be an issue. He will assuredly slip in his "Deep Thoughts, by Tony LaRussa", unless the club restricts access to maybe once a series or week, and or has handlers there to shut down any questions or answers that make him or the club look bad. I'm not sure Hahn and Kenny had a say firing Renteria, or hiring LaRussa. They extended Ricky 63 games ago, and he managed them to their best record in 15 years. I hope Ricky wins Manager of the Year, and can be hired elsewhere. He did everything that was asked of him. Not sure if he'll ever know. Not sure if he'll make it to March either. Hell, in the 2000s, he didn't know the alphabet. The last time he managed, he didn't know how to use a telephone, or at least that was his excuse as to why he blew (no pun intended) Game 5.
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    Tony La Russa named Manager

    Steve will bite his tongue when it comes to Jerry’s guy. Like LaRussa, nobody else is going to hire Stone after this gig is up. Ditto Frank and Ozzie, hawking penis pills won’t pay the bills. Tony has always been thin skinned and sensitive to any objective criticism, consistent with his level of entitlement and privlege as a crony hire. Tony has swung fungo bats at reporters with questions regarding steroids. He confronted announcers as recently as a few years ago when they mentioned his well known history of retaliation/ bean ball wars, another toxic LaRussa trait I dread watching with his return.
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    Tony La Russa named Manager

    Had a great season this year, brought the team as a whole around well despite lack of starting pitching depth. Several players have praised the job Ricky performed after the season, and after the firing. Still haven't heard from a single player entering Day Six of the Crony LaRussa hiring. https://www.mlb.com/news/2020-bbwaa-awards-finalists Renteria: After a 10-win improvement from 2018-19, Renteria helped the White Sox return to the postseason in '20 for the first time since '08. Though Renteria and the White Sox parted ways after the season, Renteria is still receiving consideration after leading the White Sox to a 35-25 (.583) mark -- their best winning percentage since the '05 championship season.
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    Tony La Russa named Manager

    Some one asked LaRussa during the hiring press conference whether he spoke to Tim Anderson, and he stated he did not talk to any players. In other news, MLB announced this evening Rick Renteria is a finalist for AL Manager of the Year.
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    Experience and Managing

    This coming from someone with an ignorant political signature (I thought no politics were allowed on the board). An ignorant poster who states Moncada stuffs his face with 50 twinkies a week (a story from 2015, not a God Damned thing he is doing today) or "can't play through minor bumps and bruises", when it was obvious to anyone with a brain Moncada played the entire season in severe pain and health limitations including the ability to breathe due to COVID symptoms. You're the same Karen who wet their bed the entire season in game threads, posting endless ignorant comments regarding yelling at players as the correct way to manage. I'm linking this video specifically for you, so that you understand why all of MLB, including White Sox staff, the entire media not paid by JR, and baseball fans on this board and throughout the city are critical of this reprehensible hire. Listen and observe the pain in Kenny Williams's voice throughout the interview. For those who don't have 34 minutes, click the 10:50 mark to address criticism Kenny received from his white friend, perhaps his friend is Karen LaRussa, regarding Colin Kapernick, with the same ignorant opinions Tony LaRussa spewed 4 years ago, and again during Black History Month this year. "The same person who asked that question about what it is like to be Black, that same person I said two years ago. When Colin Kaepernick took a peaceful knee, not protesting our military, as it was portrayed, just some of the things you are seeing now. Police injustice and brutality. And I said "Listen, whether you agree or not, be careful. Because no group in the HISTORY OF MAN has ever been oppressed to the degree they felt like; are discriminated against. To the degree they felt like they had to take the initiative to protest in the first place, and to get it out there, and make their cases heard." No one group has ever reacted well to being told when, where and how to protest. You do that, it's a recipe for disaster." And now Kenny Williams has this reprobate worming his way back to the organization. Jerry has had to find employment for Tony as though he was a child his entire life, passing him off to Oakland before shit-canning his ass in the 1980s, and placing him with Jerry's owner friend in Arizona when Tony was too old to manage a decade ago. Crony LaRussa fit NONE of Rick Hahn's well thought out criteria for the next manager. No recent experience, not a modern manager familiar with analytics. Crony LaRussa's idea of "analytics" is hiring his Veterinarian pal of 35 years with no mathematical or analytical background as director of baseball analytics and research. Because Tony LaRussa and his pal have been the beneficiary of cronyism and privilege their entire life. They know no other way, and worse they are unsympathetic to those who have not been handed the same privilege in life, even though they are far more qualified. No other team in MLB was ever interested in Tony LaRussa managing over the past decade. There is only one team and only one reason he was handed the job on a platter, without any legitimate interview process. That is how cronyism works, the hallmark of a Jerry Reinsdorf organization. it's sad that a team which should be climbing the mountain of success is now divisive and backtracking due to self-inflicted wounds. Sad, pathetic, and par for the course. PS - Plays don't get more sloppy than this, thank you Tony for your well oiled machine. Tony was totally outclassed by Baltimore's rookie manager, and it went all downhill after that until Tony was ushered out and people were hired to clean up Reinsdorf's original mess.
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    Tony La Russa named Manager

    Based on how this all went down, there's a possibility Jerry reached out to Tony in September, though publicly they are going to say nothing transpired until after they dismissed Renteria. Basing this on the harshness of Guillen, Thomas and Stone's comments during the final week of the season and playoffs. I don't recall even Harry and Jimmy ever being as critical of a manager. I don't expect a single word of public criticism from the trio toward LaRussa, regardless of what transpires during his tenure, unless the Chairman issues another smoke signal. The White Sox had at minimum 1-2 weeks plus to come up with better spin, and more importantly, reach out to key players like Tim Anderson, Jose Abreu, Lucas Giolito and allow conversations with Tony, and be available for conversations with Rick and Kenny, before the roll-out. There was no rush to announce this, as there was the single legitimate candidate with no interest in anyone else. I don't recall a Front Office managerial/coach hire announcement from any team that was so unenthusiastic. Hahn sounded like a close relative died. Then you have Tony having to deny being racist, never a good sign. Perhaps there will be player outreach this week. Jerry may not care, but I imagine Kenny and Rick care, since they invested years to get to this point, and based on reports there is a high level of internal strife across the entire organization over this hire. Also, we don't necessarily know whether Kenny and or Rick had any say on either side of this equation (Renteria or LaRussa). Posts here addressed Hahn having his hands tied. However, I haven't read posts addressing Kenny Williams. Kenny has been a prominent proponent and activist in terms of civil rights and addressing racism over the years, including an extensive interview this year after the June protests. It had to be a hard pill to swallow for Kenny to bring in Tony LaRussa, especially after all that transpired this year. https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/white-sox/white-sox-executive-ken-williams-opens-about-personal-history-facing-racism
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    Experience and Managing

    Yes, modern day managers are there to write out a lineup card, make pitching changes, and adhere to front office dictates on player utilization. They are not the player's father, or in Tony's case great great grandfather. They are not there to dictate how a player should "speak" or "think" outside of conveying baseball fundamentals / strategy. It's not the manager's role to determine whether a player is "sincere" in their personal believes, or to assess or grant a player "permission" to live as an adult based on Tony's whims, beliefs, or experiences during his 20s in the Jim Crow South. The days of Massa Tony dictating what players can say, think, or believe, and what they can do outside of actual game performance are long gone. It's been a very very very long time away from experiencing the day to day of a clubhouse. Based on the press conference answers given, it doesn't appear this reality has sunk into Tony's head yet, but brain synapses slow when one reaches this stage of atrophy. However, that mindset must change by Spring Training, or you can start printing "Tony's Boys Done Quit" tee-shirts to reflect the toxicity of imposing "old school" mentality to "fix" a player, a slump, or a ball club. Lot's of inane comments in game threads imploring Ricky to "yell and scream" at players, or have then run laps until they drop. A select few here may want that, but it isn't happening or you may see Tony shit-canned a second time mid-season.
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    Tony La Russa named Manager

    What does the D stand for? DUI? Depends? Dementia?
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    Who would you have hired?

    Also released during Tony LaRussa's tenure with the White Sox. I feel like Martha Quinn tonight.
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    Tony La Russa named Manager

    Actually, Tony also has trouble operating a phone. Not sure if Western Union still does telegraphs. Here is a link to one of Tony's "senior moments", ten years ago, which Tony chalked up to "phone issues" after completely blowing Game 5 of the 2011 World Series. https://www.espn.com/mlb/playoffs/2011/story/_/id/7145762/tony-la-russa-bad-call Unrelated to phones, but on the subject of the process, I couldn't find a transcript of the Rick Hahn 10/12 Press Conference posted online or here. However, transcribed below are the exact words of Rick Hahn when he stated the criteria for the next manager. Unfortunately for Rick, Kenny, and everyone else who works for or likes the White Sox, none of it was followed. Emphasis SSHM's in bold. "I don't think I'm going to get into too much detail in terms of specific attributes. I don't want to say anything that's going to influence what we hear from any candidates when we go though this process. I will say that this is an opportunity for us as an organization. We've obviously been somewhat insular in terms of our managerial hirings over the last several years. This is an opportunity for us to speak to individuals with other organizations that have had success, and learn from them, and get their sort of outsider objective perspective on our organization. Ultimately, I think the best candidate, or the ideal candidate is going to be someone who has experience, with a championship organization, in recent years. Recent October experience with a championship organization would be ideal. But we're going to keep an open mind, and, you know, over these next several weeks we will diligently pursue who's on our list and go from there. " Hahn's was asked if managerial experience was a prerequisite in the search and how an understanding of metrics is going to matter. "Managerial experience is probably ideal. It's not essential, we're not going to unduly limit ourselves. I believe six of the eight managers that are still playing as of last week were in their first jobs. Obviously, we've seen others within our division, Rocco Baldelli did a wonderful job with Minnesota his first job, his first chance in the big chair. So we're not going to cut off any avenues, but ideally having that October managerial experience would be a plus. As for being a modern manager, yeah that's going to be important. Having an understanding of the clubhouse, the rhythm of the game. A good gut feel, but at the same time being able to balance that with modern analytics is a plus for any candidate. But again, I don't want to go too far down the path of laying out traits of what we are looking for, because that could potentially color how the conversations go when we get in a room with a candidate. But those are sort of the broad strokes." Either before, during or after Rick stated the words above, Jerry Reinsdorf, not Rick Hahn, took it upon himself that very same day to reach out to Tony LaRussa and inquire about his interest. The White Sox hired him shortly thereafter, with former White Sox player Willie Harris the only other candidate the team formally met with to cover the "Bud Selig Rule". I hope Willie gets a White Sox Ambassador job for complying with the perfunctory interview. Will close full circle with a music video tie-in to Tony's phone troubles, which was released when Tony LaRussa was still wearing a White Sox uniform in 1985. Has definately aged better than Tony.
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    Poll: Rate How You Feel About TLR

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    Today is the 15th anniversary of the White Sox championship

    My thoughts were and are with my grandfather. He was born in 1918, stayed with me overnight on a cold September Friday evening in 1983 at Comiskey Park to purchase $6 SRO tickets for the ALCS Games 3 and 4 on sale Saturday morning. He brought me to numerous White Sox games over the years and died in 1998, with the 1959 AL Pennant the closest he came to celebrating a White Sox World Series championship. I'm sure a lot of us have similar stories. Experiencing the joy and memories over the years was what it made it a special moment for fans. I was very fortunate to be able to attend the home playoff games in 2005. Win or lose, it is the memories with friends, family, and at times complete strangers over the years you cherish most, but it was sure sweet to finally see the White Sox finally win it all.
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    Who would you have hired?

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    Tony La Russa named Manager

    And with all that cheating, pills and syringes, and with the self proclaimed genius Tony LaRussa entering three World Series as a heavy favorite, he managed to lose 2 out of 3, one to a team reduced to one Ace pitcher and a crippled pinch hitter, the other to a nazi swastika wearing KKK owner and her favorite dog running the show. Also lost to the rookie Orioles manager here in 1983. Tony did improve and learn over time, and did an excellent job over the last six years with the Cardinals, though credit must also be given to Walt Jocketty and the solid MLB and ML foundation he built for those teams. For the record, Hinch did not establish or even support the scheme. The players and one or more coaches started it. Hinch learned of it and tried to stop it when he destroyed the monitor used to relay the signals. The front office and owner (who denied knowledge) supported the scheme, overruled Hinch's objections, and bought a monitor to replace the one Hinch destroyed to keep the scheme going.
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    Is Ozzie a candidate for manager now? No rumor

    I wouldn’t consider Ozzie for manager, but the one valid defense for his resignation or “quitting” was the fact Kenny Williams undermined him and the organizational structure when Kenny worked around Ozzie to extend Don Cooper’s contract without his knowledge or input. Ozzie quit once he found out what transpired. Ozzie should have taken the high road and stayed the final two games, for his legacy and for the players he was paid to lead. His anger/disappointment with how that played out was legitimate, his handling of the situation was not, but then again he didn’t handle many situations well without consequences over the years.
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    Who would you have hired?

    While I didn’t expect Tony LaRussa to be the poll winner, I am somewhat surprised at the near unanimous (3 vs. 59) support of a different hire.
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    Tony La Russa named Manager

    Correct. In fact, the White Sox have no players under contract who were on a Major League roster in 2011, the last time Tony LaRussa managed (unless team options on Edwin or Gio are exercised). Baseball has changed a lot over the past decade, both on the field and in the clubhouse. “It’s been a long time since I rock and rolled.” - Robert Plant, who is 4 years younger than Tony LaRussa
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    Pitching Coach and Bench Coach

    I wonder what role Tony’s Veterinarian pal will have with the White Sox. https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/30220736/why-tony-la-russa-sincerely-curious-choice-white-sox-manager In November 2014, six months after the Arizona Diamondbacks named Hall of Fame manager Tony La Russa their chief baseball officer, the organization announced that it had hired Dr. Ed Lewis as its first director of baseball analytics and research. His experience in the field was nonexistent. His doctorate was in veterinary medicine. Lewis came to the Diamondbacks because he possessed a quality far more important than developing algorithms or building models: For 35 years, he had been Tony La Russa's friend. The hiring of Lewis prompted snickers around the game. At the time La Russa was stripped of power three years into the job, the Diamondbacks had gone 212-274. His handpicked GM, old friend Dave Stewart, had been fired. Lewis was replaced. Cronyism in the game is as old as the spitball, and an inner circle of powerful men -- they're all men -- has spent decades in the game fomenting it. When they want something, they tend to get it.
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    Tony La Russa named Manager

    Valid criticisms, but that was not the reason LaRussa confronted Piersall, it was his on point criticism of LaRussa’s in game management.
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