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  1. Kopech and Crochet should both have been building up as starters in Charlotte that year. Tony was the primary driver of this plan, with no one here to stop him.
  2. This is my choice, but wasn’t a poll option. Jerry will be happy that Getz will continue to lower payroll and may keep it below the league TV / MLB.com payout of $104M and growing for the rest of Jerry’s life. He ha more than enough revenue to cover organizational staff and book substantial guaranteed annual net profit before even counting his RSN revenue and other non baseball related White Sox income. (317) White Sox Organization Chart (20) Senior Leadership 7 Board of Directors 13 Officers (Also Includes Jerry) (37) General Administrative 5 Administrative Staff 12 Accounting 5 Business Analytics 6 Central Support Services 6 Data Processing / MIS 3 Human Resources (71) Baseball Operations 2 Amateur Scouting 20 Major League Medical Staff 34 Major League Operations 6 Major League Training Staff 9 Minor League Operations (128) Marketing, Public Relations & Sales 13 Advertising & Marketing 5 Broadcasting 9 Community Relations 10 Community Relations Specialists (Ex-Ballplayers) 13 Corporate Partnerships 6 Design Services 8 Digital Communications 9 Media & Public Relations 51 Ticket Sales & Ticket Office 4 Youth Baseball Programs (61) Stadium Operations 14 At Your Service (Jerry owned “security” firm ) 4 Clubhouse Staff 11 Game & Video Presentation & Scoreboard Operations 32 Park Operations
  3. Appreciate what Dylan has brought over the years to the Chicago White Sox. Hope this is a win win trade for both teams, and Dylan continues to pitch superbly throughout the rest of his career.
  4. If your phone (IPhone 8 or higher with OS 16), Android (OS 8 or higher) and or PC/TV device is compatible, you can watch televised minor league games, listen to all radio or web broadcast MLB games with no blackouts, plus watch on going in game highlights and live look-ins via MLB Big Inning for $29.99 / year under the At Bat subscription: https://www.mlb.com/live-stream-games/subscribe I have iPhone 7, so can’t use on phone, but may still subscribe to watch Charlotte and Birmingham games via PC, assuming the website doesn’t make me disable my VPN or ad blockers, which is likely a pipe dream. The Minor League games are far more important in terms of the White Sox’ future, especially considering the players Tony/Getz/Pedro will likely roster to open the season. Also won’t have to listen to the new Hey Now! PBP Guy or a salty Steve Stone either, always a plus.
  5. James Fegan write up: https://soxmachine.com/2024/03/white-sox-dylan-cease-trade-reaction/ Money quote:
  6. It's literally the only thing of substance Jerry said beyond the Ohtani Free Agent tampering he said during the shitshow press conference.
  7. Benintendi is the dust on the floor you can't see at the picture resolution.
  8. Most fans like to cheer for the best players in the game, historic players. Not a fan of permanently tanking and flipping anyone with a pulse for the next 30 seasons. Would like Robert to remain a Sox for life. The team will need dozens of solid players, so if they can win and he be a part of it great. All these tanking trades over the Reinsdorf era has added along the margins, at best.
  9. Death, Famine, War, Pestilence, I think they bring in Lorenzen if Jerry can afford to do so, or maybe some other low cost pitcher as well, but can see Crochet starting up here and Kopech perhaps working out of the bullpen to start the season if he doesn't turn things around his final few starts in Spring Training. Don't see the Sox (or possibly anyone) bringing in Clevinger despite his 2.2 fWAR last season.
  10. Jerry said he hired Getz to win now, so have to take him at his word.
  11. At this stage, a B or C grade would be reasonable. Would like to hear from the A, D and F voters. Thanks for setting this up. Can you change the settings to view what everyone voted? I know this is an option when you initially establish a poll, but not sure if you can change it mid-stream. Full disclosure if you can't or decide not to, I voted B.
  12. Twenty-four of the fifty-nine elected players which played for a single team did so under the Free Agency era, only three retiring before 1981 (Gibson, Oliva and Robinson). This despite the much shorter playing window (1871-1974 for pre-Free Agency vs. 1975-2018 for current eligible inductees). Free Agency (1975 Season): In Jeff Bagwell (Houston 1991-2005) Johnny Bench (Cincinnati 1967-1983) Craig Biggio (Houston 1988-2007) George Brett (Kansas City 1973-1993) Bob Gibson (Saint Louis 1959-1975) Tony Gwynn (San Diego 1982-2001) Todd Helton (Colorado 1997-2013) Derek Jeter (New York A. L. 1995-2014) Chipper Jones (Atlanta 1993-2012) Barry Larkin (Cincinnati 1986-2004) Edgar Martinez (Seattle 1987-2004) Joe Mauer (Minnesota 2004-2018) Tony Oliva (Minnesota 1962-1976) Jim Palmer (Baltimore 1965-1984) Kirby Puckett (Minnesota 1984-1995) Jim Rice (Boston 1974-1989) Cal Ripken Junior (Baltimore 1981-2001) Brooks Robinson (Baltimore 1955-1977) Mike Schmidt (Philadelphia 1972-1989) Willie Stargell (Pittsburgh 1962-1982) Mariano Rivera (New York A. L. 1995-2013) Alan Trammell (Detroit 1977-1996) Carl Yastrzemski (Boston 1961-1983) Robin Yount (Milwaukee 1974-1993) Solid Chance Jose Altuve (Houston 2011 - Current) Clayton Kershaw (Los Angeles N. L. 2008 - Current) Mike Trout (Los Angeles A. L. 2011 - Current) Potential Buster Posey (San Francisco 2009-2021) Joey Votto (Cincinnati 2007-2023) - Needs to not return to MLB for Toronto or another team. Lou Whitaker (Detroit 1977-1995) Teams without one or more single team Hall of Famers who have played since 1975: Original 16 MLB Teams (1901 - Current) - Philadelphia / Kansas City / Oakland Athletics (None) (1948 - Current) - San Francisco Giants (Mel Ott 1926-1947) (1951 - Current) - Chicago White Sox (Luke Appling 1930-1950) (1959 - Current) - Cleveland Guardians (Bob Lemon 1946-1958) (1970 - Current) - Los Angeles Dodgers (Don Drysdale 1956-1969) (1972 - Current) - Chicago Cubs (Ernie Banks 1953-1971) Expansion Teams (1961 - Current) - Washington Senators II & Texas Rangers (1961 - Current) - Los Angeles Angels (1962 - Current) - New York Mets (1969 - Current) - Montreal Expos & Washington Nationals (1977 - Current) - Toronto Blue Jays (1993 - Current) - Miami Marlins (1998 - Current) - Arizona Diamondbacks (1998 - Current) - Tampa Bay Rays PS - Red Faber was the third life long White Sox inducted into the HOF, joining Luke Appling and Ted Lyons.
  13. To me, the absolute floor I'd insist on if I was a MLB owner is the $105M + annually each team receives just for the national TV contracts plus MLB.com. This is guaranteed before a single ticket is sold, car is parked, TV/Radio dollar is collected,, local sponsorship is sold. Before the tens of millions in revenue sharing for most of the bottom dozen teams (White Sox one of the few exceptions). Getz will need to gather several more solid roster players for 2026-2027, field a few winning teams and hope fans come out so Jerry will get back to at least a decent payroll once these tanking years are over. It's really a shame the Sox made the lottery last year, would have a solid shot at a Top 3 2025 draft pick with a much better draft class. Now they are 10 + guaranteed with the ridiculous MLB owner imposed draft rules.
  14. Sox drop to 20th in payroll at $125.0M with this move, before a potential Lorenzen signing and or the millions due if they convert Moustakas and or Pillar for the OD Roster. Jerry has to be pleased to avoid an eight figure final Cease payment, in addition to Yoan and likely Eloy and Nicky Lopez dropping off the payroll to get them under $100M barring unexpected additions. Under $130M payrolls - At 3/11/24 + Net Cease / Wilson trade East Central West 18. Washington Nationals $129.6M 19. Minnesota Twins $129.3M 20. Chicago White Sox $125.0M 21. Kansas City Royals $118.2M 22. Milwaukee Brewers $107.6M 23. Detroit Tigers $103.4M 24. Tampa Bay Rays $98.3M 25. Cleveland Guardians $98.0M 26. Baltimore Orioles $96.3M 27. Miami Marlins $96.2M 28. Cincinnati Reds $89.8M 29. Pittsburgh Pirates $83.6M 30. Oakland Athletics $60.9M
  15. 54, hoping to live for at least a few more decades. Luke Appling (retired 1950) the last White Sox for life Hall of Famer elected, before all of our time. Ted Lyons and Red Faber were the only other two White Sox. Frank Thomas should have been the fourth on this list. Agreed. Can always nitpick, but without knowing all the offers/counteroffers among the three - four rumored teams the past few days, I'm happy with the haul. Patience turned into far more than what the Orioles gave up in the Burnes trade, and definitely most certainly more than what Hahn would have acquired. Now start working on the hitting additions the next two years to supplement Montgomery, Ramos, Quero, hopefully Gonzalez and others.
  16. #1-#3 SPs are what the Sox absolutely not going to sign with the White Sox, so even though TINSTAAPP, if one or both pan out, it's a fair return, plus Zavala is a solid addition. Do agree they should keep Robert, can't endlessly dump your best players, and hopefully their will be new ownership before his contract expires. Would love to cheer for one solid White Sox for life HOF player before I die.
  17. 5th, 8th and 9th MLB ranked Padres Prospects if true. https://www.mlb.com/prospects/padres/ 3rd, 4th and unranked (Head - though at 19 obviously not an imminent MLB player) on FanGraphs https://blogs.fangraphs.com/prospect-report-san-diego-padres-2024-imminent-big-leaguers/
  18. https://blogs.fangraphs.com/prospect-report-san-diego-padres-2024-imminent-big-leaguers/
  19. https://blogs.fangraphs.com/prospect-report-san-diego-padres-2024-imminent-big-leaguers/ Drew Thorpe, SP Drafted: 2nd Round, 2022 from Cal Poly (NYY) Age 22.3 Height 6′ 4″ Weight 205 Bat / Thr L / R FV 50 Tool Grades (Present/Future) Fastball Slider Curveball Changeup Cutter Command Sits/Tops 35/35 45/50 40/45 70/70 40/55 60/70 88-92 / 95 Thorpe came to the Padres in the Juan Soto trade and is poised to make an impact on their 2024 rotation. Pitchers with changeups as good as Thorpe’s and who throw as many strikes as he does tend to be high-floor propositions who pitch forever. His low-80s changeup, which he locates at will, has a ton of tail, and his ultra-short arm stroke helps trick hitters into seeing fastball out of his hand. The effectiveness of Thorpe’s slider (more average in terms of raw stuff) and fastball (below-average at just 90–92 mph) is enabled by his precise feel for location. He can sink his fastball down and to his arm side, or run a four-seam version of it past hitters at the letters. The Yankees coaxed a little more heat out of Thorpe (who sat 88–91 in college) during his time in their org, but not enough to give him impact velocity. He will throw the occasional cutter or curveball in an obvious fastball count to keep hitters guessing, but those pitches don’t currently have any more utility than that, though I think the cutter eventually will. This is a very polished 23-year-old who, given San Diego’s tendency to push prospects quickly, is likely to grab hold of a big league rotation spot in the upcoming season. We’re talking about plus command of a plus-plus changeup here; Jeremy Hellickson and Marco Estrada are fair recent comps.
  20. Caulfield should pay a proxy to play the Powerball for him tonight.
  21. Padres Prospects Primer - January 8, 2024 https://blogs.fangraphs.com/prospect-report-san-diego-padres-2024-imminent-big-leaguers/
  22. Morosi for the win..... https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/03/padres-finalizing-deal-for-dylan-cease.html
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