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  1. 16 minutes ago, The Kids Can Play said:

    You're absolutely right is was a horrible trade. However right now the one thing different between the two Jerry owned teams is Jerry's son Michael who runs the Bulls. Although Michael hasn't made them a top NBA team yet, the one great thing he did immediately, was clean out the Gar-Pax cancer and go to the outside for a new fresh FO start.

    While John was removed from the top spot, both John and Jim Paxson remain with the Bulls, because jobs for life means jobs for life.

    https://www.nba.com/bulls/chicago-bulls-staff-directory

    John Paxson - Senior Advisor Basketball Operations

    Jim Paxson - Director of Pro Personnel 

    Billy Donovan III - Video Coordinator

  2. April 26, 2023

    For Immediate Release:

    Senior Vice President of Stadium Operations Terry Savarise has instructed staff to deny Rob Colletti admittance into any future White Sox home games.

    Stadium staff will request fans wearing a Colletti or Berto Jersey to remove or cover up the offensive message or face ejection and possible arrest.

    Fans displaying signs referencing Berto or Colletti will face immediate ejection and revocation without compensation of any remaining White Sox tickets in their name.

    Go Sox!

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  3. 48 minutes ago, The Kids Can Play said:

    You're absolutely right, but now we painfully understand and were clearly burned by the old adage, "Be Careful What You Wish For."

    In hindsight Rick Hahn should have told Renteria that he would remain as manager, because frankly he was a good leader and motivator.

    Well that and the fact the “Executive of the Year” gave Ricky an extension 60 games earlier, after which time the White Sox had their best record under Hahn.

    I pointed this out real time, but the consensus after fans were subjected to  non stop propaganda by Garfien, Stone and others employed by Jerry was that Hahn deserved his award and Ricky his pink slip. Didn’t make sense then or now. 

    I still maintain Jerry offered the job to Tony sometime between Tony’s arrest and the end of the 2020 faux season, knowing that Tony would no longer be employable once the second DUI came out, following the death of the player earlier within the Angels organization. Also believe with Jerry’s connections down in Arizona, he got the police to sit on the public release of the arrest report until the signing and press conference, and also got him off with a wrist slap in court.

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  4. 3 hours ago, greg775 said:

    On a personal level for the first time ever the Sox don't have a player I truly care about as a fan. I've always had my faves. Paulie, Buehrle, Frank, Jose, Dye various pitchers, Ozzie, Ralph Garr, Durham. I have zero faves on this team though Burger is probably closest for me.

    Yes, its been awhile for me not to have a favorite White Sox player as well. Faced similar after separating from following the Sox post 1994. Makes missing the games much easier this season, rooting for Houston this season.

    Former Favorite White Sox Players:

    • 1975 SP Wilbur Wood
    • 1976-1981 CF Chet Lemon
    • 1982-1989 RF Harold Baines
    • 1990 C Carlton Fisk
    • 1991-1995 LF Tim Raines
    • 2003-2008 3B Joe Crede
    • 2009-2012 C A. J. Pierzynski
    • 2014-2022 1B Jose Abreu
  5. 1 hour ago, wegner said:

    Chris Rongey would have hung up on Berto after 20 seconds.

    Bruce Levine would have clutched his pearls. Glad this aired on the White Sox Flagship Station. Love the two hosts reactions throughout the call, sounds like they agree with just about all of it. The Sun Times or someone else should send this guy to Hahn's press conference tomorrow.

    Every new Soxtalk registrant should have to listen call as part of their Soxtalk User ID approval.

     

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  6. 4 hours ago, JoshPR said:

    And all of soxtalk wanted him gone

    Well nearly all. Ricky was extended by the "Executive of the Year", and should have been allowed 2021 to continue with the core he developed and who played hard for him.

    If they would have brought in Hinch or Bud Black, it would have made more sense and I would have understood because both are solid managers. The Sox of course didn't, and now they are on manager three over the past 353 games during their alleged "Multiple Championship Contention Window". 

    There has been zero accountability taken with the source of this continuous failure, and until Jerry leaves there likely won't be.

     

  7. 7 minutes ago, elrockinMT said:

    I think that the players respected Tony. They tried to play through the injuries. I really do believe it was a mistake to let Abreu just walk 

    Ricky Renteria was the lone manager to hold players accountable and produced the best winning percentage in the Hahn era. Players possibly grudgingly respected La Russa the first few weeks of 2021 (Tim said wait and see in Spring Training), but after the Mercedes incident, there was little respect shown publicly including Jose and Tim telling La Russa to GFY if he thought about holding them out of a lineup. Tim also publicly told Yermin to ignore Tony. 

    Hahn spoke like he was looking forward to dumping Abreu during his comments at the La Russa exit conference and at other times last year. Hahn showed Abreu zero respect, though it's hard to recall a time Hahn has shown anyone respect beyond kissing Jerry's ass.

    The Sox weren't planning on competing in 2023 anyway. Instead they pissed away $75M for the worthless LFer. Abreu should have been White Sox for life, as a player and beyond in whatever role he wanted.  Then again, Jerry Reinsdorf and his Cronies have shat on many people over the years, be it Harry Caray, Carlton Fisk, Larry Himes, Frank Thomas, Ozzie Guillen and others. It has gotten so bad, even lifer Hawk Harrelson is speaking out about the poor ethics and integrity of Jerry's current organization.

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  8. Too early to vote, and I think they will play a bit better when TA/YM return and LH will help a lot. That said, I don't think this team is substantially better than the 2017 or 2019 tanking teams.

    This team reminds me most of 1976, with several talented players, some young, some at the end of the line, and just a bad season for most of them plus little to no depth which resulted in a 64-97 record.

    1976 bWAR / Player (Career bWAR)

    • 2.8 Rich Gossage (41.2)
    • 2.4 Brian Downing (51.5)
    • 1.1 Wilbur Wood (50.0)
    • 0.6 Terry Forster (20.4)
    • 0.4 Chet Lemon (55.6)
    • 0.4 Bucky Dent (17.5)
    • 0.3 Pete Vuckovich (16.4)
    • -0.1 Minnie Minoso (53.2) :D
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  9. 3 minutes ago, fathom said:

    The window shut last year.  This offseason wasn’t the actions of a team trying to contend.

    They were not legitimately trying to contend this entire period. They have never corrected 2B or RF this entire time, never built the starting pitching depth and solid bullpen required to advance in the playoffs.

    • 2017-2019 - Tanking
    • 2020 - Shortened season, 2 viable starting pitchers with no upgrades due to "catastrophic losses" we all know were a crock of s%*#. This was a planned tanking season until the 60 game Central schedule farse made them "contenders".
    • 2021 - Jerry hires crony manager, Tony/Hahn acquires end of line guys who played for / know Tony (Lynn, Eaton, Kelly, Diekman, Jake Lamb, etc.) plus Hendriks, the one legitimate signing.
    • 2022 - No further legitimate signings (Graveman, Leury)
    • 2023 - Payroll reductions begin with Jerry having no further incentive to prop up his crony manager. No legitimate acquisitions (the LFer is a joke).
    • 2024 - Payroll reductions continue in earnest between July - November 2023, FA acquisition hold will continue indefinitely on the road to getting payroll to the 15th - 20th MLB level.
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  10. 4 minutes ago, The Kids Can Play said:

    You are probably right as it was more wishful thinking. However it is a sad commentary on Sox fans to be so loyal and not willing to send a stronger message to this loser owner, who could give a crap whether his loyal fans are frustrated and totally upset. 

    As far as the projection on wins, I don't see them getting more than 62-65 range. In fact, if they do a major sell off at the July trade deadline, then for sure they can approach over 100 loses. At least that's what I'm praying for...the worst possible ending for this  ShitShow the owner and FO gave their loyal die-hard Sox fans.

    Yes. And even though the paid attendance will settle in at 11-13K plus, doesn't mean actual attendance will be even half that when the weather is bad, which does impact revenue in terms of parking and concessions.

    I feel bad for everyday fans who bought season tickets hoping to at least break even on the secondary market for games they can't go to, but the $4-$6 daily floor will only lead to more cancellations this off-season which may finally force legitimate change at 35th and Shields.

  11. 2 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

    A winless road trip. 7-18. If no accountability is shown between now and the first pitch of tomorrow's loss, this franchise just doesn't care.

    The only move I expect tomorrow is Lucas Giolito being activated from the Bereavement List for Banks.

     

  12. 2 hours ago, The Kids Can Play said:

    I think this is the key! I never root against the Sox, but for once I hope the fans really stop going and never even touch 5k. I also hope the losses keep piling up. We all know Jerry flaws as an owner. One of them is his big ego. I think as long as he isn't in dementia yet and has some non senile cognitive skills left, I think watching 5k a game or less would embarrass him...knowing he is embarrassing himself to the other league owners. 

    If after potentially having one of worst records in baseball and maybe the worst attendance it still doesn't bother Jerry to make any changes, then the other Sox owners need to get together and bring this POS loser owner to court and claim he is mentally incapable to continue being the owner of the Sox and force him to sell the team.  

    You're not going to get 5K sold this year, because the season ticket base made up of die-hards and a substantial number of sponsor held tickets is higher.

    Looks like 13,794 is close to the weekend season ticket base based on their 4/16 attendance with likely no walkup crowd (cold, rainy and miserable).

    Their 5/4 day game against Minnesota will show their likely weekday season ticket base, I'd guess around 11,000, unless there is a very nice weather day that brings some walk up interest.

    They are going to continue to try to sell tickets with $4.15 tax day sales throughout the season. Stubhub lists tickets to enter at $4-$6 for a majority of the schedule, so beyond already sold season ticket and group sales, it's going to be hard to push the needle beyond incredible weather days or a miraculous turnaround. Despite the start, I believe the Sox will end up in the 64-69 win range this season even with the expected July sell off.

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