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    Billy Hamilton Back

    in Pale Hose Talk

    Posted

    4 minutes ago, DoUEvenShift said:

     

    Dont hate on my BHAM!

    He's my favorite player on this year's team, but that is "Fake Math" (45 / 72 Games Played = .625, not the .653 in the tweet).

    That said, with Billy back I can see him perhaps driving his record up to .653 and beyond. :cool:

    DVS: Liam Hendriks to begin rehab stint shortly

    in Pale Hose Talk

    Posted · Edited by South Side Hit Men

    Really hoping he can come back healthy and strong, and be sent to a team that has a legitimate shot at a World Series, assuming the Sox don't go 41-21 (50-42 overall) before the All Star Break to climb back into it.

    Liam has tasted postseason victory twice, winning the 2015 Division Series with Toronto defeating Texas before losing to World Series Champion Kansas City in the ALCS, and then of course beating the White Sox in the 2020 Wild Card series before losing to Houston in the Division Series.

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    White Sox Winner ! Back 2 Back wins ! 17-3 on Dog Days !

    in Pale Hose Talk

    Posted

    1 minute ago, Quin said:

    What I'm learning is that this is the lineup the Sox need to run out there:

    CF - Billy Hamilton 
    LF - Mark Payton
    RF - Adam Engel
    2B -  Nick Madrigal
    SS - Tim Anderson
    3B - Leury Garcia
    1B - Jose Abreu
    C - Reese McGuire
    DH - Yermin Mercedes

    • Payton small sample size
    • Leury's primary starts were in RF over the past two years, was a decent reserve player (position flexibility .711 OPS 2021), Tony played him as a starter due in part to Hahn's horseshit depth and roster construction.
    • Engel and Madrigal played well while healthy in 2021 (.832 OPS & .774 OPS).

    With a pie in the sky players were actually healthy 2021 scenario

    1. SS Anderson .806 (123 G)
    2. CF Robert Jr. .946 (68 G)
    3. 1B Abreu .831 (152 G)
    4.  3B Moncada .787 # (144 G)
    5. LF Jimenez .740 (55 G WTF)
    6. C Grandal .939 # (93 G)
    7. RF Engel .832 (39 G)
    8. DH Sheets .830 (54 G)
    9. 2B Madrigal .774 (54 G)
    • INF/OF Garcia .711 # (126 G WTF)
    • C Collins .669 ^ (78 G)
    • INF Mendick .589 (71 G)
    • OF/PR  Hamilton .620 # (71 G)

    Bubble Busted - Defensive Liabilities: C/DH Mercedes .732 (68 G)  & DH Burger .830 (15 G)

    Here because of injuries / desperation except Eaton who was here because stupidity: 

    OF Goodwin (72 G), RF Eaton (58 G), 2B Hernandez (53 G) DH Lamb (43 G), C Zavala (37 G), INF Gonzales (10 G)  LF Gonzalez (6 G).

     

    5/2- Twins vs Sox, 6:10

    in 2023 Season in Review

    Posted

    3 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

    Everything went extremely well with the performance, with the caveat that Mr. Lincoln was killed at the end...which pretty much overshadowed all of the positives of the evening combined.

    Yes, but this quote wasn't funny or accurate in the context of the White Sox bullpen tonight. Even if one knew the quote, it did not make sense.

    4 IP 4 K 0 BB 2 H 1 R 0 Inherited Runners Scored

    2.25 ERA 1.00 Ratio

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    White Sox Winner ! Back 2 Back wins ! 17-3 on Dog Days !

    in Pale Hose Talk

    Posted

    1 minute ago, flavum said:

    Gotta say, Engel’s record is a wow.

    Both were beneficiaries of being late inning replacement with White Sox leads, but facts remain facts, and both contributed to wins as well.

    The disappointment on the list was what could have been with Yermin Mercedes if he had the support of the White Sox manger while here. Nearly all of his games were starts.

    Also need to give you credit since you are responsible for the lone Chicago White Sox win streak since October 3-4, 2022. Jose sat out on October 5th, and the rest has been mostly bad history, at least until the ninth inning of Sunday's game.

    Cheers!

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    Billy Hamilton Back

    in Pale Hose Talk

    Posted

    46 minutes ago, flavum said:

    1-0

    Welcome Back Billy Hamilton!!!

    #WhiteSoxFacts #GameChanger

    White Sox Records by Position Player (April 1, 2021- May 2, 2023):

    1. .625 Billy Hamilton 45-27
    2. .625 Mark Payton 5-3
    3. .618 Yermin Mercedes 42-26
    4. .582 Adam Engel 92-66
    5. .574 Nick Madrigal 31-23
    6. .565 Tim Anderson 121-93
    7. .565 Leury Garcia 126-97
    8. .552 Adam Eaton 32-26
    9. .549 Yoan Moncada 141-116
    10. .547 Jose Abreu 169-140
    11. .542 Cesar Hernandez 26-22
    12. .529 Josh Harrison 63-56
    13. .528 Resse McGuire 28-25
    14. .528 Brian Goodwin 38-34
    15. .514 AJ Pollock 71-67
    16. .505 Yasmani Grandal 110-108
    17. .503 Andrew Vaughn 146-144
    18. .503 Luis Robert Junior 98-97
    19. .500 Luis Gonzalez 3-3
    20. .500 Nick Williams 2-2
    21. .497 Eloy Jimenez 80-81
    22. .490 Danny Mendick 50-52
    23. .487 Zack Collins 38-40
    24. .473 Seby Zavala 53-59
    25. .467 Gavin Sheets 92-105
    26. .465 Jake Lamb 20-23
    27. .444 Hanser Alberto 4-5
    28. .429 Carlos Perez 3-4
    29. .409 Adam Haseley 9-13
    30. .397 Elvis Andrus 29-44
    31. .368 Jake Burger 35-60
    32. .365 Romy Gonzalez 23-40
    33. .320 Oscar Colas 8-17
    34. .308 Andrew Benintendi 8-18
    35. .296 Lenyn Sosa 8-19

     

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    White Sox Winner ! Back 2 Back wins ! 17-3 on Dog Days !

    in Pale Hose Talk

    Posted

    Welcome Back Billy Hamilton!!!

    #WhiteSoxFacts #GameChanger

    White Sox Records by Position Player (April 1, 2021- May 2, 2023):

    1. .625 Billy Hamilton 45-27
    2. .625 Mark Payton 5-3
    3. .618 Yermin Mercedes 42-26
    4. .582 Adam Engel 92-66
    5. .574 Nick Madrigal 31-23
    6. .565 Tim Anderson 121-93
    7. .565 Leury Garcia 126-97
    8. .552 Adam Eaton 32-26
    9. .549 Yoan Moncada 141-116
    10. .547 Jose Abreu 169-140
    11. .542 Cesar Hernandez 26-22
    12. .529 Josh Harrison 63-56
    13. .528 Resse McGuire 28-25
    14. .528 Brian Goodwin 38-34
    15. .514 AJ Pollock 71-67
    16. .505 Yasmani Grandal 110-108
    17. .503 Andrew Vaughn 146-144
    18. .503 Luis Robert Junior 98-97
    19. .500 Luis Gonzalez 3-3
    20. .500 Nick Williams 2-2
    21. .497 Eloy Jimenez 80-81
    22. .490 Danny Mendick 50-52
    23. .487 Zack Collins 38-40
    24. .473 Seby Zavala 53-59
    25. .467 Gavin Sheets 92-105
    26. .465 Jake Lamb 20-23
    27. .444 Hanser Alberto 4-5
    28. .429 Carlos Perez 3-4
    29. .409 Adam Haseley 9-13
    30. .397 Elvis Andrus 29-44
    31. .368 Jake Burger 35-60
    32. .365 Romy Gonzalez 23-40
    33. .320 Oscar Colas 8-17
    34. .308 Andrew Benintendi 8-18
    35. .296 Lenyn Sosa 8-19
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    Updated: Losing Streak Watch - Historical

    in Pale Hose Talk

    Posted

    And the second of four 2023 streaks is OVAH!

    All that is left is to clear the two streaks related to series.

    Most consecutive games without a winning streak (2+ wins) in Chicago White Sox History (1969-Current):

    • (Thirty-eight 11-27) August 7 - September 16, 1984 (74-88 Tony La Russa): [8/1 vs. Boston; 8/3-6 at Milwaukee & 8/7 at New York] 11-27 [9/17-19 at Minnesota].
    • (Thirty-eight 11-27) July 10 - August 20, 1980 (70-90 Tony La Russa): [7/6 vs. Oakland DH] 11-27 [8/21-23 vs. Toronto].
    • (Thirty 7-23) September 8 - 30, 1973 (77-85 Chuck Tanner) + April 5 - 16, 1974 (80-80 Chuck Tanner): [8/31-9/2 vs. California; 9/3-4 vs. Texas & 9/6-7 at Minnesota] 7-23 [4/17 at Oakland & 4/19 vs. Kansas City].
    • (Thirty 8-22) May 17 - June 16, 1970 (56-106 Don Gutteridge): [5/11-12 at Detroit & 5/15-16 & vs. Kansas City] 8-22 [6/17 vs. New York & 6/19 at Oakland].
    • (Twenty-nine 7-22) October 5, 2022 (81-81 Tony La Russa) + March 30 - April 29, 2023 (7-21 Pedro Grifol): [10/2 at San Diego & 10/3-4 vs. Minnesota] 7-22 [4/30 vs. Tampa Bay & 5/2 vs. Minnesota].
    • (Twenty-nine 6-23) May 23, 2007 - June 26, 2007 (72-90 Ozzie Guillen): [5/20 at Chicago & 5/21-22 vs. Oakland] 6-23 [6/25-6/28 at Tampa Bay].

    Rick Hahn Right Field Success Tracker

    in Pale Hose Talk

    Posted · Edited by South Side Hit Men

    White Sox Right Fielder Appearances (2013 - April 30, 2023):

    1. 467 Avisail Garcia (2013 - 2018)
    2. 176 Adam Eaton (2016 & 2021)
    3. 122 Leury Garcia (2014 & 2017 - 2022)
    4. 108 Alex Rios (2013)
    5. 103 Gavin Sheets (2021 - 2023)
    6. 90 Adam Engel (2020 - 2022)
    7. 84 Davan Viciedo (2014)
    8. 81 Ryan Cordell (2018 - 2019)
    9. 66 Daniel Palka (2018 - 2019)
    10. 64 Moises Sierra (2014)
    11. 63 Andrew Vaughn (2021 - 2022)
    12. 51 Trayce Thompson (2015 & 2018)
    13. 43 Brian Goodwin (2021)
    14. 42 Nomar Mazara (2020)
    15. 33 John Jay (2019)
    16. 30 Charlie Tilson (2019)
    17. 29 JB Shuck (2015 - 2016)
    18. 28 Jordan Danks (2013 - 2014)
    19. 21 Oscar Colas (2023)
    20. 18 Alen Hanson (2017)
    21. 17 Willy Garcia (2017)
    22. 14 AJ Pollock (2022)
    23. 11 Jason Coats (2016)
    24. 11 Romy Gonzalez (2021 - 2023)
    25. 9 Casper Wells (2013)
    26. 9 Jake Lamb (2021)
    27. 9 Adam Haseley (2022 - 2023)
    28. 8 Danny Mendick (2021)
    29. 7 Rymer Liriano (2017)
    30. 7 Ryan Goins (2019)
    31. 4 Ryan LaMarre (2018)
    32. 4 Nicky Delmonico (2020)
    33. 3 Luis Gonzalez (2021)
    34. 3 Mark Payton (2022)
    35. 3 Eloy Jimenez (2023)
    36. 2 Adam Dunn (2014) 
    37. 2 Jacob May (2017)
    38. 2 Billy Hamilton (2021)
    39. 1 Dewayne Wise (2013)
    40. 1 Alejandro De Aza (2014)
    41. 1 Tyler Saladino (2016)
    42. 1 Jerry Sands (2016)
    43. 1 Yolmer Sanchez (2017)
    44. 1 Jarrod Dyson (2020)

    Reinsdorf Quotes

    in Pale Hose Talk

    Posted

    Final thoughts on Reinsdorf's quotes.

    1. Over 40 years of baseball ineptitude has proved your teams do well financially but not on the field. Not even talking 2nd-4th across The MLB, just across a pathetic 5 team division. Jerry's teams primary finish between 2nd and 4th, with as many last place finishes as division winners, all but one of the six not advancing in the playoffs.

    Current GM Years in Bold, current season TBD.

    Overall Reinsdorf Era:

    1. (12) 2nd Place
    2. (11) 3rd Place
    3. (7) 4th Place
    4. (6) 1st Place
    5. (5) 5th Place
    6. (1) 7th Place

    7 Team AL West Era: 

    1. (2) 1st Place (1983, 1993)
    2. (2) 2nd Place (1990, 1991)
    3. (4) 3rd Place (1981, 1982, 1985, 1992)
    4. (4) 5th Place (1984, 1986, 1987, 1988)
    5. (1) 7th Place (1989)

    5 Team AL Central Era:

    1. (4) 1st Place (2000, 2005, 2008, 2021)
    2. (10) 2nd Place (1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2010, 2012, 2022)
    3. (7) 3rd Place (1995, 2001, 2006, 2009, 2011, 2019, 2020)
    4. (7) 4th Place (2007, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2023)
    5. (1) 5th Place (2013)

     

    2. News flash Jerry, you are the "dumbest competitor".

     

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    Sox explore immense depth of their 7th place AAA team, make 11 transactions

    in Pale Hose Talk

    Posted

    4 hours ago, bmags said:

    I also don't understand how they aren't performing way more churn among minor league FA and waivers. It was so clear that so many of the Charlotte staff last year couldn't be on the AA team of the Rays. 

    Actually I do understand - the org is incredibly lazy.

    I remember Hostetler bragging about how stupid the prospect writer lists were and how he'd lie to them...but is there any org that seems to toe the value of the top 100 guys mroe than the sox? We rarely trade them, and we all remember Hahn's brilliant trades to grab Casey Gillaspie and a declining Blake Rutherford. It was 100% because they were on the last prospect handbook he had.

    The primary value the Sox ever derived from their minor league system since the Himes core and the Buehrle / Garland run was Kenny flipping the failed prospects for actual ML contributors.

    5/2- Twins vs Sox, 6:10

    in 2023 Season in Review

    Posted

    1 hour ago, Bob Sacamano said:

    Well for one he can actually go down and play every day rather than sitting on the bench for half the games. That's at least something.

    Plus you get an extra controllable year, which was heavily debated over the past several months on SoxTalk.

    Gotta save Reinsdorf money when you can, though he’s not in this business to make money based on his comments yesterday.

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    5/2- Twins vs Sox, 6:10

    in 2023 Season in Review

    Posted

    1 hour ago, EloyJenkins said:

    Haseley helps win last game in a number of ways....Sheets starts very next game. 

    And Grifol is good because???

    Sheets would never be on a roster of a legitimately contending team. Then again neither does “MVP” Haseley, who at least can field a baseball.

    I guess he is trying to steal three at bats and will swap in Hamilton or Haseley in the 6th/8th if the game is still meaningful.

    Reinsdorf Quotes

    in Pale Hose Talk

    Posted

    52 minutes ago, The Mighty Mite said:

    I’ve despised this man since 1983 with the Harry Caray and Jimmy Piersall incident when on the night they clinched the 83 division he and Einhorn came on TV and trashed Harry and Jimmy, Reinsdork might be a billionaire but is also a classless asshole. Don’t bet against this creep screwing White Sox fans one more time when he sells the team to someone who will move the team to Nashville or Charlotte.

    I liked the original version better, he had more humanistic and likable qualities than the current version.

     

     

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    Reinsdorf Quotes

    in Pale Hose Talk

    Posted

    28 minutes ago, baseballgalaly said:

     

     

    That doesn’t excuse the White Sox starting 7-19, and in a position to sell, during a year they expected to contend for the American League Central crown despite slashing the payroll by $25 million. But it does inform it.

    When a team owner doesn’t demand or invest in a successful product, the front office has no pressure to deliver one. No courage is required to fall on a sword with a collapsable blade....

    “Accountability around here is not a problem,” Williams said. He’s absolutely correct. Not only is accountability not a problem — it’s not even a concern. Why would it be when you can over-promise and under-deliver with impunity?

    Williams is the second-longest tenured executive in Major League Baseball behind the Yankees’ Brian Cashman, who has 21 postseason appearances, four World Series titles and six pennants. No organization except the White Sox allows someone to run the show for this long without a damn good reason.

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    Any help in the minors

    in Pale Hose Talk

    Posted

    30 minutes ago, Claudellsleptheretoo said:

    Is Leury Garcia still available?  Should I see the doctor if I yearn for his return even momentarily

    Welcome to Soxtalk.

    While Leury likely can no longer hit ML pitching consistently, he would provide value being able to cover multiple positions infield and outfield positions adequately defensively as a reserve player. He is much more valuable than Romy who can neither hit or field at the ML level.

    It’s doubtful Leury would return even if asked, as he is being paid $5.5M each of the next two seasons to stay home after he was hastily DFA’d with little to no reserve depth in the organization.

    Haseley can play all three of the OF positions and hopefully will remain up to help the pitching staff prevent 4-5 out innings due to sloppy play.

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