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"The Kids Can Play"
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8 hours ago, caulfield12 said:
Burger doesn't have enough lateral quickness/quick twitch reflexes for third... he certainly doesn't have the range and burst for second.
Doesn't matter about his arm.
He's also going to be in a world of hurt turning double plays and throwing across/against his body because he's lacking in overall athleticism.
Jumping over base runners and/or deftly side-stepping them?
No no no... can't do it.
Burger started a successful double play in the Baltimore 10 inning game win. I believe he did not go through a "world of hurt" turning it.
Regardless of how good or bad Burger is as a third baseman, I am confident his bat will win a lot more games, than his fielding will lose games.
The fact is Moncada was brought here to play 2nd. He can play second! If the both of them make more errors between 2nd and 3rd so be it. If Moncada is as good of a hitter as the "pro camp" in this forum feels he is, then Moncada hitting and Burger hitting combined should win more games from their hitting, than both of their errors will lose games for the Sox.
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19 hours ago, Chick Mercedes said:
This is the way.
I second that motion!
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4 hours ago, Illinibat said:
(1) Play Burger at 3B.
(2) Play Moncada at 2B if he ever gets healthy (and assuming he can even show the ability to hit better than Andrus/Romy/Sosa/Alberto, which is questionable).
(3) Live with a few more errors on defense throughout the year.
This is the way.
I totally agree with you.
Everyone keeps hammering home the point that Burger shouldn't be playing 3rd because he isn't a good fielder. Let's give Jake a chance because in 8 games he has only one error. Moncada has played 9 games and also has one error. I know that's a small sample size, but let's be positive and hope he does well, instead all this blasting him and calling him a one tool player crap. The harsh fact right now is, there isn't one player with his home run power on this team. He brings excitement and energy to this boring and bad team.
Furthermore why can't Moncada play 2nd? Maybe he should lose some weight and get quicker like he was when he was first was traded for when he was the #1 prospect in MLB as a second baseman.
Btw, if Moncada is so good defensively as many people claim in here, then he should be able to play second base and make the adjustment and transition. That's what good team players and athletes do for their team. It's not like he would be learning a new position he never played before.
When Moncada comes back, it makes no sense to sit Burger. He either plays third or starts at DH over Eloy.
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56 minutes ago, baseballgalaly said:
Tearing it down in 2016 was the correct course of action then as it is today.
I agree it was the right call in 2016. Unfortunately as we now realize it was the wrong guy handling it.
It's also perhaps time to do another rebuild. However if it's under the direction of the two clowns Kenny and Hahn, then aa rebuild should not be done.
When a GM and his FO destroy a rebuild and make it a trainwreck, where seven years later we are still a horrible team on every level of the organization, you shouldn't be getting a second shot. Well at least they don't in any good organization, except of course for the Sox owned by the biggest loser in the league.
If Jerry allows another rebuild with these two morons, then as Forrest Gump's mom said, "Stupid is a Stupid Does"
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On 6/25/2021 at 9:58 PM, DanofDuPage said:
Time for a change. Thank You for great numbers in May. Jake is on fire. Back up for Moncada & Abreu. Maybe a fill in at 2nd for now. New Energy!
I totally agree with you. They brought up Goodwin and Sheets. Burger was and is batting better than both of them at Charlotte.
Burger has persevered through so many injuries and I have nothing but total respect for him not giving up and keep coming back. He deserves a shot up here, especially as a former #1 draft pick.
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8 hours ago, ron883 said:
Since Yermin can't hit anymore, I'd just prefer Hamilton in CF and Goodwin in RF. DH Sheets. The Vaughn-Goodwin-Sheets OF may be the worst defensive OF in the majors.
I like this idea. You are right it is a horrible outfield with Goodwin, Vaughn and Sheets. Case in point Goodwin and Sheets both misjudging flyballs last night.
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17 hours ago, southsider2k5 said:
Did Tony LaRussa talk to Donaldson about the Joy's of Respecting the Game?
18 hours ago, Heads22 said:WTG Giolito! Donaldson is a jerk. He also called out Garret Cole of the NYY.
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Just now, Greek-konerko said:
Hamstrings unjuries is cause of lack of training,period
It's also a lack of getting stretched and properly warmed up before each at bat. Hence why Abreu never pulls his hamstrings because he is always doing stretching, knee bends and jumping up and down before each at bat. The players do stretch before the game, but many of them don't do much or any stretching after the game starts.
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1 hour ago, wolves01 said:
What's the record for hamstring injuries by a team in a season?
At our rate I'm sure we will be the new official record holder for hamstring injuries by the end of the season.
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59 minutes ago, Heads22 said:
Marshall should be DFA and not on DL. Thank god Kopech is at least back!
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56 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said:
Cleveland's 14-15 against teams above .500 is better than the Sox' record of 10-19.
Yes, but here is the good news, going into today's 2nd Pittsburg game we are 27-10 against teams under .500. We have 43 of 89 games left in the season against teams currently under .500. Don't forget once we get Kopech back soon and Robert and Eloy also back, we should be fine playing in one of the weakest divisions in baseball.
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On 6/20/2021 at 3:32 PM, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said:
The Sox have been completely exposed and embarrassed in this series, and there is no guarantee that Eloy and Robert will be anywhere close to the players they were when they come back...if they come back at all. Is it time to tear things down and get a haul for Lynn and Rodon at the deadline?
Good thing you're not affiliated with the Knee Jerk Reaction or Glass Half Empty clubs.
Even though Rick Hahn has told us that Eloy and Robert are ahead of schedule and both due back by possibly late July...you are still a pessimist and doubter they are not returning.
Btw, the Indians W-L record is 14-15 against teams this year above .500. It seems Cleveland plays that same brutal 7 game stretch our Sox just played, starting July 1 with 4 games vs. Houston and then followed by 3 games vs. Tampa Bay.
We are already in the rebuild and it's going fine. Hahn has the Sox set up to win now and for the next several years. The only thing that could ruin that is TLR. In fact, instead of selling off, the Sox should be Buyers before the trade deadline and go all in!
Finally, after today's game we have the next 7 games at home where we are 27-12.
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11 minutes ago, reiks12 said:
im so happy leury will get more atbats today than any other hitter in our lineup!
I know right...that's because TLR knows how valuable Leury is with his whopping .238 BA and more importantly his amazing and productive .299 OBP which is so critical for a leadoff hitter.
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13 minutes ago, fathom said:
There’s been talk they would take it easy on him because as this article states, he will still have some pain but is unlikely to re-aggravate it
That article was written only after his 3rd game at Charlotte. Of course the Sox medical staff was monitoring his progress, as they do with any rehab start for someone at triple A. However Engel played 4 more games in Charlotte without any setbacks and thus was deemed 100 percent ready to come back up. As that article stated, the medical staff told Engel he’s unlikely to reinjure himself even if he still experiences pain for a while. There shouldn’t be anything on the field he can’t do.
This is nonsense Engel is being rested for a .244 hitter from Triple A, when in fact Engel is hot going 3-7 and 2 HR's in last two games. I also highly doubt Goodwin is a better CF defensively than Engel
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On 6/10/2021 at 4:10 PM, Tnetennba said:
I think is good optimistic news. If we get Eloy and Robert back by late Aug, early Sept, we will be ok. Hopefully we get Nick back too. We play in the weakest division in baseball. As long as we don't lose any pitchers, we should be able to hang on to first place until we get them back.
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15 minutes ago, fathom said:
Engel was never returning to play full time. He’s still not 100 pct and likely won’t be all season.
Where do you come up with these crazy assumptions? It has never been published anywhere by the Sox that Engel is playing under a 100 percent recovery.
Here is a quote from Engel's Twitter feed after the game he took away the home run. "As far as being on the field, I feel about as 100 percent as I can be," Engel said before the game. "I don’t think that my hamstring — from a strength standpoint — I’m not going to be maxing a leg curl in the next couple weeks. But I’m able to run full speed and do everything I need to do on a baseball field, so I’m excited to play."
Plus when did anyone say that Engel wouldn't being playing full time? What CF on this team is better than him or deserves more playing time?
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42 minutes ago, Unknown said:
What happened to Eaton? Has he quit on baseball?
He was already going downhill last year with the Nationals, as he only hit .226 last year in the shortened '20 season.
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Just now, reiks12 said:
Engel just came back from injury and we dont know how hes feeling. Im ok with this. Im not OK with Goodwin batting second, fucking horrible lineup management is going to kill us if we make the playoffs.
I agree Goodwin batting 2nd is a joke. However Engel looked good so far and he was starting to heat up going 3-7 the last 2 games with 2 HR's. It make no sense to rest him, unless he was injured and he isn't injured or hurting. If he was injured or hurting it would have been mentioned.
I know he is coming off a bad hamstring injury, but the fact they took so long before bringing him back, means they made sure he was 100 percent healthy so they wouldn't have a setback.. Once Engel came back, he needed to play. My god, he only played 5 games.
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1 hour ago, ShoeLessRob said:
Anderson SS Goodwin CF Grandal C Abreu 1B Mercedes DH Eaton RF Lamb LF Garcia 3B Mendick 2B
This is a joke! Why isn't Engel in CF? He has played a perfect CF defensively as we expected and has 2 HR's in 5 games. Goodwin was hitting .244 BA in Triple A Charlotte. Are you kidding me...this is insanely stupid. Oh I get it, he cant hit in Triple A, but hey don't worry, Goodwin will improve and hit much higher at the ML level. We didn't need a CF brought up...we needed a 2B brought up.
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10 hours ago, bmags said:
is how I'm extremely annoyed by baseball media again.
Takes me right back to 17 years old calling the tribune the cub-une and yelling at every baseball tonight segment that didn't mention the white sox.
Biggest annoyances at the moment:
- National baseball media falling over themselves to talk about how resilient and grindy the Mets have been since they've faced such devastating injuries that have forced some of their players to the sidelines for upwards of a few weeks 😪 RIP Conforto, i'm sure they also threw a funeral for you
- *Fernando Tatis Jr catches a pop-up* .
*my phone buzzes 17 times straight*
"YOU WON'T BELIEVE WHAT TATIS JUST DID"
"CAN YOUR SHORTSTOP do ThAt? 😍"
"SEE HOW A SUMMARY OF HOW OUR WRITERS REACTED TO TATIS INSANE CAN-Of-CORN CATCH!"
- "The cubs just won a game...are they the greatest team in baseball?"
I'm hurt! I'm hurting! The grievances are bubbling to my surface!
All your points are sadly true. The Tatis Jr crap is a joke and mostly fueled by jealous Cub fans. The fact is Tatis was a unproven at 17 years old when he was traded from the Sox in 2015. News flash to all non Sox fans...we had a shortstop already in Tim Anderson. I get so tired of Cubs fans saying they can't believe we traded away Tatis. Always be quick to remind our Cubs fans that their executive guru Theo Epstein traded away Dylan Cease and Eloy Jimenez to our Sox for Jose Quintana.
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21 minutes ago, Greg Hibbard said:
Pretty hilarious how people alternately bump this thread to “prove their point” either way every 50 or so at bats
he has not yet hit a benchmark that is a meaningful sample size either way, folks
Actually it's not hilarious at all, its called being optimistic and being a Sox fan. It's called looking at facts and the history of White Sox 2nd basemen in the last 30 years. Obviously you are in the negative contrarian club of wishing Madrigal fails to prove a point he is overrated apparently.
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On 4/14/2021 at 5:49 PM, Greydawgfan1 said:
Dudes here to stay. They aren’t going to drop him. Especially for a super utility guy who has never made an opening roster. Some of you guys should just accept it.
Totally agree. I cant believe the people here always finding faults with him. Only one 2nd baseman hitting for a higher BA in MLB. Hitting .318 over last two seasons.
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1 hour ago, Tnetennba said:
Sheets should be in the lineup instead of Garcia or Eaton.
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6 hours ago, hogan873 said:
I just want to see more of Lynn calling hitters names and generally being the ass that he is. He needs to be extended.
Lynn definitely needs to be extended. He is not even close to be washed up at 34. Plus we gave up Dane Dunning to get Lynn. I know Dunning has been inconsistent this year for Texas, but hindsight is 20/20. At the time of the trade, Dunning was a hot pitching prospect and that's why Texas gave us Lynn. It's a dangerous move in giving up future good prospects for rental players, unless you plan on making a major effort in resigning them.
Most importantly Hahn needs to resign Lynn because going forward next year, there are still question marks in our rotation with Cease, Rondon and Keuchel.
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Rebuild Time
in Pale Hose Talk
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I think many of us agree a rebuild is needed. The debate is who is in charge of it? Does Han get another shot after the first debacle? Having said that, let's assume for argument sake, Hahn gets the blessing to handle another complete rebuild. Which current players on the roster do you keep and which ones do you trade? I am curious and being serious.