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  1. On 3/13/2024 at 8:03 PM, Pale Sox said:

    Haha I’m serious though. Shields was a low 90’s guy with a killer changeup and good command. Obviously he brings back bad memories for us, but his career would be a fantastic outcome. 

    since we've been going with the power pitching prospect without very much success for quite awhile, it might actually be time for a change up with a change.

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  2. 1 minute ago, mac9001 said:

    While the return doesn't blow me away I think people are vastly underrating Thorpe. The kid has some elite numbers that tend to transfer over to the big leagues. Zavala as a 19 year old put up a .420 OBP in low A ball and played CF. 

     

    Thorpe probably slides in as our #2 and Zavala might be our #4 best prospect and probably no lower than #5.

     

    Note: I do believe Schultz will probably be out best pitching prospect by end of year, but right now you have to put Thorpe slightly ahead of him on production alone.

    Something tells me they may have given up Thorpe because he was throwing that reported 88 mph. Otherwise, maybe the name is different.

  3. 2 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

    My guess based on last year was that teams would be more willing to give up those prospects if they were sitting in a playoff spot in July and Cease was sitting there with a 2.85 ERA.

    Sure. The Sox definitely moved quickly on this as soon as Cease showed some performance though. If the deal was lacking, and it kinda is, if they had confidence Cease was gonna be there in July, they probably would have waited. They way they jumped on this suggests they viewed it as too much of a gamble?

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  4. 2 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

    If he's not a CF defensively then this is a much weaker deal because a dozen minor league HR but a decent A-ball OBP is a Benintendi-type corner outfielder, unless he grows into more power with age?

     

    Oh dear. The excitement for the deal hinges on Zavala having CF upside totally for me.

  5. 9 minutes ago, T R U said:

    I love this trade. Thorpe is good, they don’t trade for Iriarte if they view him as a reliever so they like something there and that’s an electric arm. Zavala, I think that dude will get into the top 100 here in the future. 
     

    Slam dunk to me for 2 years of Cease coming off a down year compared to 2022. This is far better than the crap floated around earlier and what Burnes went for. Easy. 

    Well, if Cease was throwing harder in ST more in line with his past, I would be less ok with this. As such, teams reasonably could hold back on the offers given the amount of risk they are accepting.  Not that he wasn’t still ramping it up. No idea.

  6. 5 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

    I think you and Balta were both saying the league would have to see Cease pitch to know if he was 2022 or 2023 Dylan Cease. They did, and we got a haul. Everybody's right. 

    Risk management. Holding out as long as possible into the season if necessary could increase the returns. But how sure were the White Sox themselves which Cease this is. Maybe get while the getting is (good enough)

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  7. 6 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

    At the end of the day I think Getz has had his "if you want him today, this is my price" price out there for a while.  If we are getting this going again, I think teams are moving into Getz's "today" neighborhood enough that it is worth listening too.  This could well have been a case where guys were trying to see if he would fold early, or if he would hold up.

    I just think there were too many questions about Cease for teams to give Getz his price without seeing Cease pitch again. The more they see, the more they may  be willing to give up assuming Cease is back to himself again. That's why we still may be a couple weeks early.

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