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Viciedo looked good. He was hitting the ball hard. He needs to be playing more.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 29, 2010 -> 03:11 PM) I could say a team of former Sox wouldn't be bad. I'll start with Maggs, Carlos Lee, Garland, Swisher (god I hated him on our team), Olivo, Pods, Thome, Aardsma, Gio, Young. I'm sure there are a ton more. Well, that's fine, but you've got Carlos Lee and Pods both listed, and Lee was traded for Pods. So, you can't null a trade and get them both back. I know what you're getting at, but like someone else said, the Sox have done well with most trades.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jun 29, 2010 -> 02:51 PM) We'll assume that Dunn signs a 3/$36 mill extension ($10 in '11, $12 in '12, $14 in '13). This is not an argument by any means, but do you think Dunn would sign for "only" $36 million? If so, I'd have no problem with your hypothesis.

QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Jun 29, 2010 -> 02:26 PM) Hell, I'd be willing to take 11-8 in the postseason this year, but I'm an easier sell. Yeah, 11 wins in the post season will be fine.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jun 29, 2010 -> 02:20 PM) TIFWIW, but a family member of Kenny's confirms that talks are taking place and at this point a deal is likely. Interesting. I wonder who is part of the potential deal?

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jun 29, 2010 -> 01:21 PM) But not talked actively about them going to the White Sox. Really? Peavy was almost traded earlier in the year, and there were those who believed (correctly) that the deal would eventually happen. And once Rios was placed on waivers, it was highly suspected that the Sox had claimed him.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jun 29, 2010 -> 12:37 PM) Chase Blackwood for Prince Fielder, would you do it? Well, we could also throw in Jones. Then I think it's a done deal.

Buehrle didn't have his best stuff last night for sure, but the offense certainly could have tried a bit harder. Last night the offensive problem we knew was there was glaring. A big bat is needed along with a big strong lefty to swing it.

And if the Sox were to actually sign Dunn after this year, you can say goodbye to several players we already figured on being gone for sure. The only way Konerko would remain was if he signed to a big discount. But having Dunn and Konerko available for 1B and DH would be nice.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 29, 2010 -> 08:17 AM) Which is why his price for any team trading for him will be high...the team acquiring him needs to give up something worth substantially more than 2 draft picks. If I were the Nats, I wouldn't trade him straight up for Hudson. It'd have to be Hudson + Flowers + some A-baller that I like. That's a lot to give up. How would the picks work...what rounds, etc.?

I'm not sure what the Nationals would be looking for in return, but it seems many teams covet young pitching. That said, I agree about Hudson. Are we willing to give up Flowers, though? Would they be interested in a catching prospect?

I'm in the same mindset as others on this board that Dunn would be awesome in a Sox jersey, but I'd hesitate to give up very much for him considering he would be a 3 month rental. Unless the Sox could sign him to an extension...which seems unlikely considering the cash he would command.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 28, 2010 -> 11:23 PM) That's my point. In a game of streaks like baseball, that s*** means nothing. We won 11 in a row and Twins were moderately s***ty and we caught up. Now if we don't start playing good ball against the AL, it'll revert back. But that math of how many we'd have to go over .500 to stand a chance was dumb. I suppose I see where you are coming from, but it's all statistics. The statistics of how many games a team must win in order to reach a certain goal change every day. It's like a production line that has a goal. In order to make a certain amount of product in a set amount of time, a line has to produce X amount a day. If they make 10% more of X one day, it'll take less per day for the rest of that time period to reach the goal. So, how many games the Sox must win over the next week, two weeks, whatever, changes depending on what happens today.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jun 28, 2010 -> 03:35 PM) Unfortunately if you have an ideal part time player on Ozzie Guillen's roster then you have to prepare to see him play way more than he should. Good point. The Ozzie-factor.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 28, 2010 -> 03:29 PM) It's frustrating seeing anything that states the Sox might not want to add to their offense because Kotsay needs regular at bats to stay sharp. The whole point of having him on the roster is that he's a veteran pinch hitter. If anything, he's been better when he got sporadic playing time. Right. He's a career pinch hitter...one of the best at being a pinch hitter. I would have absolutely no problem keeping around in that capacity.

Even Ozzie can't believe that the team can win the divsion with Kotsay and Jones at DH...can he?

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 28, 2010 -> 02:57 PM) I love the posts about math and what it takes to win 90, etc. Last week or so somebody posted what we would have to do and what the Twins would have to do for us to catch them. If they played .500 we'd have to have some incredible record. Those stats are nice but don't mean s*** in baseball as our 11-game win streak proved. Actually, those stats meant something back when they were posted. Now the stats are different. If someone had said (posted) that it would take an 11-game winning streak to get within 1.5 games, we'd have all laughed and chortled and pointed fingers.

Just make sure you haven't been drinking before you ask for something to be changed. That's how you end up with a user name like mine.

QUOTE (spiderman @ Jun 28, 2010 -> 10:23 AM) I'm more optimistic than I was (obviously) a few weeks ago, but if they go back to the AL and go 4-10 in the next 2 weeks or so, a lot of the optimism is gone, and it becomes clear that the White Sox benefitted from playing bad NL teams (outside of Atlanta). Now, I don't think they will go 4-10 as long the starting pitching keeps them in games which I believe it will for the most part, outside of the occasional bad start. Yes, tanking right away coming back to playing AL teams will definitely take away the optimism. And I agree that I don't think they will do a 180 and start losing a bunch of games. NL teams (okay, weak NL teams) or not, the Sox still had an 11 game winning streak. The Sox of 3 weeks ago would not have won 11 in a row against the Toledo Mud Hens. The winning streak was characterized by outstanding starting pitching, great relief pitching, stellar defense, and some timely hitting. The hitting is what concerns me about going back to playing AL teams. The Sox will need more hits, more RBIs, and more HRs. Do we think that the Sox could have won all those game without hitting a HR against AL teams? Maybe because of the pitching, but maybe not.

Who knew that winning 15 of 18 and having an 11 game winning streak would create such hate and discontent. Take it easy guys. Granted the Sox beat up on a bunch of NL teams, some of them bad. But before this winning streak the Sox couldn't beat a bad Indians team and couldn't string together more than two wins. The Sox need to continue winning series, that's it. Another 11 game winning streak would be great, but I'll take 2 of 3 from KC and then 2 of 3 against Texas...both series on the road. And the way the team has played, I think it's a possibility. I for one think that the Sox are a much better team than they showed up until about 2 weeks ago. They may not be as good as they've looked recently, but I wouldn't be surprised to see them take over first place soon.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Jun 26, 2010 -> 09:34 PM) Was it over when the Astros were 15-30? I remember saying that in one of those "I give up" threads. I then went on to say that it was pretty much over. Man I wish I took that last line back, I'd be looking that much smarter. Who cares who looks smart. The Sox are kicking ass. Let's all enjoy it as Sox fans.

Paulie! Holy s***! I never expected this. 11 in a row? Damn.

Jean shorts and a Sox t-shirt. And a frosty beer.

I use Alcon. The only time I have issues with my contacts feeling dry or sticky is if I've had them in for a long time. I get up at 5:00 AM, so by 10:00 PM I'm ready to yank them out.

QUOTE (SHIPPS @ Jun 24, 2010 -> 06:15 PM) Big wup. Its not like we are in first place. Crab ass