GreatScott82

I know this is the MadBum thread, but Silvy brings up a valid point. Makes no sense that were already "out" on Strasburg. So dumb.

Yes. I'm not a financial expert, but I do know the White Sox have gained a very large profit over the span of this rebuild. The time is now to reinvest in the product on the field. The days of going bargain bin shopping should be over. We've suffered long enough.

According to Forbes, the White Sox are right at #14 in profit value. That screams more mid market than low market to me.

That is what is the frustrating part of this whole process. The White Sox have netted tremendous margins over the last 3 years during this rebuild, yet they refuse to pay top dollar for the big fish. It bothers me that they are not linked to Cole and Strasburg. I really loved the Grandal signing. And I do appreciate that they are in on Wheeler, but whatever happened to "White Sox deserve nice things too"? Go out and spend the damn money!!! Outbid these other knuckleheads. Get the best guys available!! Stop pretending to be a low market team!

What other options do they have? Trade for 1 year of Joc Pederson in an attempt to get into the outragous bidding war for Mookie Betts next off season? We all know how that will end.

Pretty much. Although, I am curious to see what the asking price is for him given he only has one year of control left?

There is a 99.9% chance that the Diamondbacks won’t trade Ketel Marte but just out of curiosity, what do you think it would take to land him?

We STILL deserve nice things too.

Yeah.. I thought sniffing .500 was realistic too. Especially after the fun first half of the season. When they started losing in the 2nd half, all of a sudden I see quotes like "It takes 5 years to build a beautiful house" and "Lets wait until after the off season before we call ourselves playoff ready" IMO with next year being year 4, it should technically equate to year 5 via being all those assets Hahn was able to trade to speed this thing up. If it honestly takes 5 years to sniff the postseason given the rebuild jump start Hahn had, this thing likely has failed. Also, Hahn seems to be questioning himself when he mentions, "lets wait until after the offseason" To me, this does not sound like a confident GM. Does Uncle Jerry really have his hands tied or is Hahn and KW just bad at acquiring premium free agents? 2020 is a big season for everyone involved. This winter is extremely important. Hahn has a lot to prove, he simply can't afford to strikeout two off-seasons in a row.

Yeah. My thoughts exactly. The system is very top heavy and that is a major problem when it comes to wanting to fill out the roster next year or in 2021. Eventually they will have to figure out how to develop these 2nd round or 3rd round picks. Hahn loves referring to critical mass of prospects. But when the upper echelon prospects experience major injuries and the 2nd tier prospects under perform, I don't think critical mass exists.

He was literally pacing back and forth in the dugout like a madman prior to heading out to pitch. Perhaps the spazzyness or nervousness was why his mechanics changed? Something sparked a change in his mechanics . Thanks for calling us stupid though. He we will obviously grow from this start and I’m not worried about him moving forward.

The Sox will win tomorrow and most Cubs fans will say the typical, "It's fine, this is like your world series, it doesn't mean that much to us" Giolito looked nervous and spazzy. Hopefully he got it out of his system. I'm not worried about him overall. Just sucks it happens against the Cubs. On the brightside, maybe Lester has the cold arm syndrome and the Sox drop 4-5 runs this inning.

Lillian, I'm assuming Cease will be slotted in the rest of the year. Even if he struggles at times, he will be given the innings no doubt. In regards to that 5th spot (the black hole), I expect it to be a never ending carousel between the guys you listed above. It would be neat if Fulmer can fix his issues. Maybe that can even do the 'opener' route with multiple pitchers on that 5th day?

Since 2020 is the likely contending target year, I can definitely see the Sox going into the trade deadline in both buying and selling mode. They will be looking to acquire starting pitchers likely via trade with at least 3 years of control left on their contracts. I can also see them trying to unload guys like Alonso, Jay (if he's still alive), Castillo and maybe Abreu? Although, Abreu might be signing a 2-3 year extension if he continues to hit like this. Trading for a pitcher will be tricky. The Tatis trade put a dark cloud over this front office. So whichever prospects they do unload, they need to make sure its a guy they can live without in the future. Other than Washington, which other teams in the league will be potentially selling off assets? Or is it too early to even look at this?

I will always love Ozzie. But the writing is on the wall. They are clearly grooming Omar Vizquel to be their guy.