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2 hours ago, Capn12 said:
I'm a Sosa fan, but at some point, he has to show some semblance of a skill set in the bigs. It has basically been the same result, 3 years in a row.
It’s annoying because when these guys come up so much relies on them hitting immediately because they are complete deadweight otherwise. Complete negative players that have to hit 120 wRC* to be above average.
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I think the falcons may get punished more than the vikings "compensated"
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Sunday I get to see the soxtwitter videos of Lenyn Sosa pop-up, another embarrassing rundown where we say "it looks like they've never played baseball before!"
Before we get too far - Lenyn getting where he has today is an incredible accomplishment. He may not be very good, but he was a modest bonus signing that has made it to the big leagues on the strength of his hitting progression. He is by far the best signing of that class, which was highlighted by Josue Guerrero.
Anyway. Sosa signed in July 2 of 2016. Getz took over the following offseason as our Director of Player Dev, and Sosa appeared stateside in Arizona, where he stood out as perhaps the first international signing in like half a decade to not be completely miserable at the plate. He had no power, but he wasn't striking out 60% of the time.
He then spent 5.5 years, slowly climbing the organization. He mostly survived as a young player in older leagues, before breaking out in AA as a 22 year old where he suddenly found power.
He was promptly called up where we all learned that power was all you can really find in the white sox org. You find Power, you find velocity.
Everything else? they are unfindable.
A player for 5.5 years in Chris Getz teachings arrives, where we can see what it's like for someone to be taught the way JR always wanted.
The result? Someone who appears underprepared at the plate, on the field, and on the basepaths.
He goes back and forth between AAA and the big leagues, and it is all the same.
Lenyn Sosa arrived a reported 6'0 and 180 lbs, and stands today at 6'0 and 180 lbs. That's true and also a good metaphor. Despite 615 games since he arrived in Chris Getz teaching, he has very little learned.
I think about this when I read Colson Montgomery reports. The most alien like figure I"ve ever seen arrive in this org. Truly the opposite traits of like every other player. And we see "he'll need to develop if he wants to stay at short".
Well, I'd say lets just hope he survives at 3rd.
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This article was good but also funny how open this week has been that bears are choosing Williams
https://x.com/danwiederer/status/1782047653590884728?s=46&t=9lkBcVJmwvxFpyVi5DNtCg
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Monica’s first year he like took the record for most Ks looking
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Losing Caruso is killer but my guess is he plays in some variety of minutes.
I think Bulls surprise in Miami.
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I once again look at the state of our players, and have to go back to the claims that Chris Getz had Dylan Cease and made him open to trade and said "Dang, we can't just take the best players we can get, we need as much pitching as possible. Our hitters are solid. We just need more pitching"
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definitely at point where I laughed when I saw Salvador's home run.
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18 hours ago, Chisoxfn said:
Sucks - hope it heals ok with no long term effects. That is a rough rehab - presuming he has to lay flat for like 20+ hours of the day for a while.
yikes, didn't realize. Thought you just had to deal with constant flurries and couldn't lift heavy objects. That would suck.
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3 minutes ago, nrockway said:
I basically started posting on this forum because I gave up on the Bulls for the reason the other poster mentioned (and basically the reasons why people in this thread are giving up on the Sox). That team is going to treadmill until 2030 because there's no path for improvement and their idiot GM keeps compounding his bad mistakes. Trading lottery picks for bad, overpaid veterans, trading an all-star starter who you have team control of for a guy who sits on the bench for a year then doesn't get re-signed. Drafting a non-NBA player with the 4th overall pick, declaring him the franchise savior, then watching him flounder for years because the GM can't admit he screwed up. They will re-sign Pat this offseason and cement the Bulls as a 39-43 team for the rest of my life. Just good enough to make the BS play-in and not tank ticket sales, not good enough to actually win anything.
The Bulls may be "better" than the White Sox in relation to their respective leagues, but I actually think the Bulls are in a sorrier state. I could reasonably expect the White Sox to have a good team in 2026, I see no path for the Bulls unless they get really lucky in the draft (that is, if they haven't already traded all their future draft picks away).
They aren't in a sorrier state.
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49 minutes ago, TaylorStSox said:
I don't think the players or Getz "deserve" to be embarrassed. Getz is taking over a team that refuses to spend money and it's coming off a failed rebuild where nearly all the assets lost their value on the trade market. He has very little to work with.
Even Grifol is being paid to be a punching bag while knowing this is his only shot at being an MLB manager.
I think he deserves ridicule for shopping in the DeJong/Pillar/Moustakas/Maldonado buckets instead of taking the opportunity to live in the Rule 5/waiver world where we could get players of similar value but the potential to have long term control.
This year was going to be this year. It was going to be bad. But the Rangers found Adonis Garcia on waivers. The Orioles found Santander in rule 5. I dug into rule 5 this year, it wasn't a good one, but nonetheless we were so worried about pitching and we are getting shut out every game.
Instead we wasted a bunch of roster spots on guy slike lopez/shewmake that put a ton of pressure on our lower level guys to stick and have zero room to breathe. SO we send out Jose Rodriguez.
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29 minutes ago, chetkincaid said:
If a team is going to be bad, then be good at being bad. I don’t want a middle of the road team like the Bulls because that still gives people hope. “All we need is a left handed slugger named Adam and we are golden!”. Nah I want them to be historically bad and lose 120+ games. That way everyone knows that it will take a complete tear down and rebuild to win again.
I'd rather have the bulls.
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Hard to stress how much I'd rather watch Tim Elko at 1st base over vaughn. I don't care that he'd almost certainly K at 45%.
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I actually don't even know. With the bulls it felt like "ok, they embarrass themselves, we can shame them into turning this group over". It was a monkey paw, but it did feel attainable.
With Getz getting the job with a smarmy press conference by JR, there just isn't going to be a way to shame it this quickly. So I hope that, instead, this is just the remnants of how bad it was from a draft and develop standpoint under Hahn. ANd it was. People talk about the draft, but this is also what it looks like when you punt entire International classes for Colas and Yolbert and Cespedes.
But there are some signs of life in the recent draft classes, at least. Paddy has at least appeared to be less lazy, but still too lazy for my liking.
But this amount of shutouts, this level of horrid play. I don't think it's good for anything. Certainly when you don't have a Luhnow or someone overseeing the show.
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That's why I don't really care. There is nobody this is "blocking". Our OF prospects are extremely trash in the near vicinity. Can't believe we didn't waitver pick or rule 5 but I also didn't see any I cared about. Misner would have been some fun at least, because he's high variance.
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On 11/17/2023 at 7:11 AM, bmags said:
I’m not expecting a lot for bummer, but nearly all these guys are out of time. Their pedigrees mean as much as Hahn trading for former top 100 guys.
If Shewmake struggles in AAA as a 26 year old, he has no value.
Schuster, also 25, I’ll say this. His slider maybe means he can turn into a bullpen piece with control.
But I feel like over the years we’ve taken on X number of former Atlanta top prospect pitchers and they’ve never been wrong that a guy is washed.
I mean a handful of the Aball pitchers I’d like more from a profile perspective.
Id non tender Lopez. He’s not gonna get $4 million.
Hell yess thank you past me. Granted - there is no joy in this white sox world, but a good post. A good post.
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Billy Seidl hasn’t been very good but damn is he available. I swear he pitches every day.
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6 Ks on 21 pitches is insane lol.
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I think they should have mercy on us and propose an underground stadium. Tunnels around the city so we can walk in peace to the games without fear of being identified as the sickos we are.
Never to see the light of day. Protect the innocent.
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Rikuu Nishida with an interesting 3 runs scored on no hits and 1 walk lol
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WE've always heard about Ramos' big baseball IQ and great mentality. He'll breakthrough.
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1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said:
Once Lavine went out, things got a lot better. I think part of the problem was the team didn't make any moves, which alienated everyone who knew the team had zero chemistry and needed a big change.
Yeah, I mean as far as the ambitions and management of the bulls, they should be embarrassed as their claim was continuity would improve this unit.
But as far as getting to watch basketball, the play of coby/caruso/demar/ayo was actually a respite from the rest of what I could see sports wise
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12 hours ago, Chisoxfn said:
Jerry has to be happy - I think Bulls officially clinched a home play-in game. Play In money here JR comes
I know popular opinion is bulls should be embarrassed and yes they should etc etc no mans land etc etc.
But considering how bad sports were, since December Bulls have been a good watch. I can't have too many white sox at once.
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Hoge and Jahns did a bit with Kevin Fishbain where they argued for WR, Pass Rush or OT at nine.
To discredit WR, they brought up how few of the top ten paid WRs were first rounders (which will change a lot next year) but also how few were super bowl winners.
I really can't stand that argument. So anyway I put this together below:
Top Ten Paid QBs and Super bowls
total 2Top Ten Paid RBs and Super Bowlstotal 0Top Ten Paid WRs and Super BOwlstotal 2Top Ten Paid TEs and Super Bowlstotal 1Top Ten Paid LTs and Super Bowlstotal 1Top Ten Paid RTs and Super Bowlstotal 2Top Ten Paid Gs and Super Bowlstotal 0Top Ten Paid Cs and Super Bowlstotal 2Top Ten Paid DEs and Super Bowlstotal 0Top Ten Paid DTs and Super Bowlstotal 2Top Ten Paid OLBs and Super Bowlstotal 1Top Ten Paid MLBs and Super Bowlstotal 2Top Ten Paid CBs and Super Bowlstotal 3Top Ten Paid S and Super Bowlstotal 1Top Ten Paid K and Super Bowlstotal 2There's a lot of problems with this. For one, KC has won 3 of the last 5 super bowls. The avg age in the league isn't that old, and to be highest paid you'll need to be on second contract. Also, if you were highly paid 3-4 years ago, likelihood is you may be cut now or are no longer highest paid.But all that aside...WR had more super bowl winners than Edge and LT!!!!!-
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2023-24 NFL Season Thread
in A and J's Olde Tyme Sports Pub
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There have been settlements between teams where they agree to compensation in lieu of punishment. That could happen here if the falcons think it would be a lighter punishment (swapping 8 with 11) than what nfl will hand out.