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For many teams adding a 30 mill player makes it more difficult to succeed. For this iteration of the white sox, it made it a lot easier. But really, if I'm being kind, the easiest way for the white sox to have succeeded would to have a good front office. This is a bad front office, so everything is harder.

Things the white sox had 2 years to prepare for - 2018 Mega class with machado harper - Signed 0 Grade F - 2018 INTL FA class (first year with budget - sox likey - first year out of penalty box) - Sox linked to zero of the top 30 players Grade F

soxmachine probably will, not that i particularly like it, but many others got a little too chummy getting access with hahn and don't want to miss out.

Yes this is clear from Kenny. He thinks that it works as shaming the padres "ho ho you bid against yourselves, us smart pants did not and we have... oh shit we have nothing to show for it"

Sox shoudl send out that photoshopped harper white sox UC image so I can have it as my desktop. Reinsdorf teams just kill it with photoshop presentations.

Yeah. It's better than paying 14-15 mill for 2.5 war starters

I think marwin is one of the few decent acquisitions left. When it seemed he could get 4/80 then it seemed bad but if its 3 for 20? 21? If he is just himself you can trade that, if he reappears as a .900 hitter then you trade it. If he's a .775 hitter you have a better yolmer and maybe keep it.

True, they seemed intent to get the player rather than obsess over the general baseball market and precedent. Weird.

Listen these are businessmen and brilliant negotiators, us ignorant fans cannot understand their wisdom.

Hahn is falling on the sword for jerry because hahn knows he'll never get fired anyway.

This should be the response to every one of hahns quotes this morning.

exactly.

does anyone kinda wish we had cowley back just for this day or two?

Sorry with my genre of posts that are just "I said something a while back" But I always worried with sox getting in a bidding war because it always seems like they try and land a big opening punch and if it doesn't land they choose not to counter when others persist. It seemed like it ended up the same. I'm guessing that 250 offer was a part of that pre-new years package, they played around with vesting options and then just sit around confused like "why are others going beyond our rational decisions?"

Totally agree with this. Totally. We laughed when the ricketts canceled their cubs appearance, but...JR doesn't do one at all. He should face the effing music.

Ugh these hahn quotes on JR. Did he think fans were worried about how Jr was handling it? That he took it too hard?

I don't blame the players at all. FO created the circus.

Let me help you understand. Imagine you lived in a cave and could only see shadows from the world outside. You create a reality around those shadows, create a whole ecosystem on how those shadows work. Now you go outside and are asked to sign bryce harper.

Guys, you don't understand. It's not just up to manny machado to hit those plate appearances. Woops, hey manny, enjoy your new platoon partner. Hey manny, you are getting older, we have a special rest plan for you. Hey this looks like it could linger, heres a DL trip.

KW told the real story in how they operate Hahn tried to obscure it. Hahn just tries to anesthesize comments to let us believe that they will do correct things. KW tells us how they operate and it pisses us off so we hang onto hahn.

Lillian, with all due respect, you are accusing others of being irrational to feel good, but that's exactly what this post was. For two months anyone that criticized the sox approach was met with "you don't even know, people are saying sox are interested, stop being so negative!", well all of those criticisms were right because it isn't all a great mystery. Sometimes more info obscures what's right in front of your nose.

Hahahah this post really hits hard.

I actually agree with phil rogers on that. At this point losing those guys after 3 years is not as bad as striking out on both this time. edit: lol just remembering when my biggest fear was how early the opt out would be haha. I thought we would pay more to get a later opt out hahahahahahaha oh man.

I thought machado could go for 280 but you are right 10 for 300 i figured was the starting point. There was a point on this board where I would say everyone would have been on board for 10/330 for machado and even 10/380 for harper.

No, they don't have to, but if selling isn't an option, then it will allow them to be as competitive as they want without worrying about paying players adequately which sounds worse than losing apparently.