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7 hours ago, SoxAce said:
Wilson is washed. I firmly believe that. I would not be surprised if Justin is starting by week 5.
It’s funny but these are also terrible QBs for Arthur Smith
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9 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:
I don’t think that’s necessarily true. They didn’t want to pay Poles price. He didn’t adjust until he ran out of options.
If poles price was a starter price, nobody viewed him as a starter. This is a backup price that got worse as backups with longer contracts were acquired.
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https://x.com/tompelissero/status/1769133559426510853?s=46&t=9lkBcVJmwvxFpyVi5DNtCg
This guy just had zero support from the rest of the league.
That said I’d be shocked if the Steelers locker room doesn’t side with fields and push a change.
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Just now, Chicago White Sox said:
This should be a wake up call for the Bears who wanted to keep Fields over drafting Williams and yet it definitely won’t be.
I’m pretty excited to watch them. I assume they’ll just move to crying how it’s a mistake instead of admitting how embarrassingly incapable they were of admitting reality.
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Wow. Not sure I’ve ever seen a bigger disconnect between perceived value and real value.
I think Poles probably fucked this up, but I also kinda don’t blame him as it just lined up horribly and it’s clear coaches would prefer a QB who can run a passing offense. Clearly the shanahan/McVay coaches were not on board and that’s 3/4 of the league.
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30 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said:
It would be disappointing if this was a one year deal and no extension
Ask me in may. Depends if we get Odunze/ Nabers at 9
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Kinda hope the dolphins trade for Fields now tbh
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56 minutes ago, chw42 said:
Minnesota will trade up to #3 or #5. If they trade to #3, I don't think it affects the top 10 order much. But if they trade to #5 and take JJ McCarthy, the Giants would be forced to take a WR or OT. If the Titans take Alt or Fashanu, and Atlanta takes Turner, then you're looking at a WR at #9. I honestly do not foresee Alt making it past the Titans.
Regardless if Odunze or Nabers are available at 9, I think they're trading out of that spot. They're going to be looking to hit at ED/DI/C and WR in the first 2 rounds.
Word is that the Bears are still interested in KJ Osborn after the Allen trade. So it could be that they don't take a WR at all and are looking strictly at ED/C/DI.
I disagree, I think if they love the WR they take them. Holes aren't filled with depth, they are filled with stars. I think if they trade out it's because they didn't like the WR available. But I could see a great spot now to trade back and get the next tier of WRs in a better position (Thomas Jr)
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Really happy about this. Splits the baby I was worried about where if you sign Mike Williams it could complicate taking the receiver at 9. No such concern with a 1 year deal or with a 32 year old.
And Allen is the perfect safety valve.
However…this decreases likelihood of getting one of the top 3 receivers. Need pats to want a QB, and LA to trade out.
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10 hours ago, Eminor3rd said:
I don't either -- I think he was way more advanced than anyone else at that level, and probably 85% to where he needed to be to debut.
And I think when he did debut, he was about 85% where he needed to be.
He maybe devolved as Sox lack of concern over nutrition and training at those levels let him balloon, his defense got worse from reported levels with cubs, and then his hitting got worse in majors each year.
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10 minutes ago, Eminor3rd said:
I agree with the premise that Moncada and Eloy were nearly finished when they were acquired, but I don’t agree that they didn’t have improvements they needed to (and largely didn’t) make afterwards. And I can certainly see what you mean by making a distinction between what you’re calling “development” vs “refinement,” don’t you think those are both parts of the process that fall under the purview of player development?
Eloy was in A+. I don’t think he qualifies for being fully cooked.
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24 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:
Fulmer was still on the MLB.com top 100 list in early 2017, I checked. He was brought up by Rick Hahn in 2016 from AA because Hahn needed someone to save his bullpen.
Moncada spent most of a year in AAA. He was called up because Frazier was traded, and showed by 2018 that this was an aggressive promotion since he hadn't figured out how to handle the strike zone.
Lopez spent several years in the White Sox's minors and couldn't figure out how to have success until he was moved to the bullpen.
Eloy spent so long in the White Sox minor league system that he wrote an article saying "I'm Ready" for the Players Tribune.
Kopech spent 1.5 seasons in the White Sox minor leagues prior to his callup.
The White Sox absolutely had plenty of time to put these guys in position for success. It's not all Getz, Hahn absolutely screwed with these guys, but this is a bloody ton of talent - to get so little long term success out of them is an indictment of the entire development system.
There is this back and forth of this board where player development is super important, but when it's drilled down on people ultimately just believe it's scouting and pd isn't that important.
But I have a hard time believing it was only scouting when it was just incredibly noticeable how nearly every pitcher had command problems, stuff or not. Nearly every hitter swung at everything, power or not. And nearly every position player was woeful at defense, athletic or not. The only ones who broke that had super human abilities like Robert, and moncada's athleticism at third.
I'm sure the Cardinals are better at scouting for defense. I'm sure the guardians are better at drafting for command. Scouting is a big piece of ball players. But PD at the aggregate level should be getting more guys that are AAAA players to be reserves, getting a few more guys that would be reserves/backend guys to borderline starters. After that it's talent. But Lenyn sosa never has a chance to develop his bat when he's also s%*# at defense.
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Now that we rid ourselves of dead weight I think we could make playoffs if we sign snell Montgomery and Lorenzen
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1 minute ago, fathom said:
I like his profile a lot more than Head
Also Law hasn’t factored in that we are siccing Grady Sizemore on him. That oughta do something.
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2 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:
At least now we can say that Law hates the White Sox again.
He still said he’d be in his top 150.
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I don’t love this trade. I don’t hate it. For the record all my takes were good.
In general, in any trade of a strong starter I’d prefer the return to be headlined by a position player. Pitching prospects, it’s like there should be an acronym about how they aren’t reliable.
But I’m more lenient on receiving pitching headliners for pitching.
Trade pitching headlined by position player prospects - gold standard
Trade position players headlined by a return of pitching player prospects - good
trade pitching with pitching returned - acceptable
trade position player with headlined return of pitching - not ideal. Have to be incredible like a 25 year old coming off TJS.
I don’t really get the profile of Thorpe but clearly people like him. Or at least like trading him.
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Wow did my impression change big time when out of no where Zavala was announced. Silly reporting of this.
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1 minute ago, Quin said:
Oh my God it had to be the Padres.
This is either gonna make things come full circle or cause the Tatis Curse to go into overdrive
Would be hilarious if we throw in Magollon or someone
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Reporters confirming deal is done rather than return can kick rocks.
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1 minute ago, Eminor3rd said:
It's a good system. Assuming you can't get Salas or their other untouchable guy (I forget), I'm actually okay with a volume approach here. Part of the Sox failure has always been to fail to understand the VOLUME of talent you need in a system to actually sustain a competitive window. Maybe that's something Getz sees and want to finally change.
Yeah I’ve stopped paying attention to their prospects but is the SS they took a few years ago untouchable? Jackson Merrill or whatever
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Ridley to titans/ Mooney to Falcons were good things to help bears get one of the receivers at 9.
2) Washington Commanders - Likely QB
3) New England Patriots - ??
4) Arizona Cardinals -- Likely Receiver
5) Los Angeles Chargers -- IMO, Unlikely Receiver, likely tradeback, possible QB
6) New York Giants -- 50/50 Receiver or QB. Possible they trade up with NE for a QB, and no idea but i'd guess OT/WR 50/50 still
7) Tennessee Titans - Likely OT
😎 Atlanta Falcons - Unlikely WR
9) Chicago Bears -Chargers trading back for a team to get QB 4 is the big thing now.
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If you could guarantee me one of the big 3 receivers at 9, then I would not really want Mike Williams, who would barely see the field in 12 personnel or push our rookie to not seeing the field.
If you guarantee me that one of the big 3 receivers are not there, then getting a big receiver would be extremely helpful.
You can't guarantee me one of the big 3 are there, the bears sign williams, they are there, and we pass on them for jared verse...well I will just hate that. So I guess I'd prefer the risk and go after a renfrow/samuel smaller slot guy. Or Noah Brown/craig reynolds.
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22 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:
I think the Yankees are still interested but Spencer Jones being included is an absolute no go for them.
They should go after Arias. I love the Yankees fit more than any other team. Multiple good packages.
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36 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said:
How so? From a value perspective, Duran and Ortiz are comparable. Porter and Hall are comparable. It all depends on how you value Leiter. I’d say he’s at least equal in value to the #64 draft pick, probably even better.
I said a much lowered ask. This board would have been apoplectic at that deal in November now it’s like “oh it’s just like the Ortiz deal cool”
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2023-24 NFL Season Thread
in A and J's Olde Tyme Sports Pub
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To be fair given what guards went for in free agency, getting a locked in 2 year 8 mill deal for a guard you like may be worth the price.
Just like if Allen was cut, no guarantee he chooses Chicago.