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Actually think he just belongs in the pen and can be really good there. He just never brings 3 above average pitches to the park.

Look if Moncada is not great than the rebuild takes a major hit anyway. We might as well be all in on him. I for one think he is a MVP type player.

I am so ready for the Sox to take this decade. The fanbase has been so patient with the rebuild. LETS F***ING GO!

I think the question becomes what does a reasonable extension look like for Moncada. 6-98 Million. Grabbing 2 more years of control, cost certainty but paying more in the beginning of the contract. This would make Moncada a free agent at 30 which would still allow him for another pay day. I can't see an agent letting him extend past 30. 2020-6 Million 2021- 8 Million 2022- 14 million 2023- 20 Million 2024- 25 Million 2025- 25 Million

Their is no way of knowing what/ how much what factors goes into a player signing a contract unless the player publicly states it. So we are left with this speculation argument which can go around in a circle. You can't correlate Moncada's decision with Grandel or Robert. All three are different people who could have different motives. One thing is clear Abreu has brought a strong Cuban influence in the clubhouse and does actively recruit for the White Sox. Additionally, It is my opinion that it is a good look to take care of your own players and show loyalty even if it cost you a few million dollars. I think 3/33 would have been a fair market deal. So we paid an extra 12 million dollars over 3 years to a player who has strong club house presence, actively recruits other players( whether this plays into their decision), and has been the face of the franchise during some tough times. To me this seems like small potatoes to gripe about.

I am totally against trading Tim Anderson. I know Lindor is a fantastic talent but I want to win with my guys. Tim Anderson - Signed a Long Term Extension With the Club - Leader During A Tough Rebuild - Exciting Player - Fairly Good Shortstop Can we just sign good players instead of trade our team leader for upgrades.

I don't mind the signing with considering the hope is either Kopech or Rodon are the 2nd half 5th Man in the Rotation starter. If Gio can give us 100 good innings I would be happy.

Pretty sure Sale's Extension starts next year for the full 5/150.

I know this would never happen because real life does not work this way but just for fun. What would you say we do this: Sign Rendon 6-240 ( 40 Per Season) 3 Team Trade ( Dodgers, White Sox, Ray) White Sox in the process are adding about 57 million from this. Dodgers Receive: Yoan Moncada Rays Receive: Dustin May Nick Madrigal White Sox Receive: Gavin Lux Blake Snell Joc Pederson I think all three teams would benefit. The rays actually could make out the best in the deal. White Sox: LF-Jimenez CF: Robert RF: Pederson C Grandal 1B Abreu 2B Lux SS Anderson 3B Rendon Rotation: Giolito Snell Cease Lopez FA/Kopech/Rodon Again, Don't hate me, just being creative.

Because those starters and relievers are probably not going to bring back the same value as Rendon but will cost more per season combined.

I would like to see the White Sox make a large play for Rendon. Consider just signing a Porcello type with the hopes of a bounce back and sitting out the pitching market until midseason. Just try to mash your ways to wins and then evaluate your young pitching before the trade deadline. If need during the trade deadline use Madrigal as a trade piece. I just have faith that Kopech and Cease are going to come through next season.

I totally understand this but we already got one good player in a position of need. One middle of the rotation pitcher does not make an off-season. I would be upset if Grandel is the only signing but I suspect that will not be the case. I think its encouraging that they had the best offer. I personally think they could use the 23 million per year over the next 5 in a better way.

I think we should withdraw from conclusions until the whole offseason is complete. Most people on this board thought Wheeler would be more than 100 Million. He got 118. It is a clear overpay and sometimes you have to do that in free agency but lets not act like the ship has sailed on the White Sox competing. If Phils went out and spent this cash right away for Wheeler and the next day we signed Grandal most fans would be praising the White Sox.

I would think the Dodgers would be looking for a middle relief pitcher for Pederson. I wondering if they would be interested in a guy like Hamilton or Johnson?

Thank you for the clarification.