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I hate when I feel obligated to like Indians.

And finally, all being said, Barry Bonds is easily the best baseball player who's ever lived, and I don't think it's particularly close. Eddy Merckx is easily the best cyclist who's ever lived, and it's not particularly close. Both were clearly doping. I'm not really sure where we deviate between clean and not. It's all pretty murky at this point, but I'll err on the side of the majority being dopers.

Also very true. The other good thing about Larry Wheels, and a lot of other lifters, is that they realize many people in those sports have body image issues, and they feel some sense of responsibility.

I have a lot of respect for guys like Larry Wheels who are completely transparent about it all. He gives his complete doping schedule because he doesn't want people to have goals that aren't achievable. Granted, he's just a power lifter, but it's refreshing.

Luckily, none of our speculation carries any weight in the real world.

Saquon Barkley repped 225 lbs 29 times as a 21 year old weighing 225 lbs. "Yeah, he's natty" - said nobody who's ever been a serious weight lifter.

You seriously think guys like JJ Watt, Aaron Donald and David Johnson are natural? Like, wtf?

If you had to guess, what percentage of NFL players do you think are natty?

It's all in the traps.

And we've always discussed how the tests are designed to catch cheaters in the past. They're always 1 step behind. You can't design an anti-virus for a virus that hasn't been written.

Well, duh. I don't think anybody is under the delusion that any of this speculation can be proven. It probably won't ever be. MLB has to protect Trout just like the NBA had to protect Jordan. It took years for us to realize he was a scumbag.

Various PED's including HGH, EPO and Test.

I'm taking all the circumstantial evidence, as well as history, and putting 2 and 2 together. This isn't a court of law, so I'm allowed to speculate.

It's gives him a quasi moral high ground. We've had these boards for 20 years. Is normal.

Here's another fun one: During Lance Armstrong's reign of TDF championships, 87% of the top 10 Tour De France finishers all tested positive at some point. That's 61 out of 70.