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I love Carlos, but we will never see him healthy again. In two years, he will be a fond memory of what might have been.

I don't think this is just a rough patch. I am worried about him.

Williams sucks.You guys spent the money to fill the stands and he did jack sh## to put a major league team on the field.

Thornton should have his n*** cut off, allowing a run to score. That was bs.

That he lasted nine years is incredible, especially in the third largest market in the country.

QUOTE (BobDylan @ Aug 17, 2008 -> 04:37 PM) I used to visit this site as a news source. It turned into a gossip column. Then I came for the discussion but there are groups of elitists that took the fun out of that. At this point I avoid Pale Hose Talk after a loss. After a win, it's pretty much a field of smug remarks pointed to the negative posters of yesterday's loss. The place feels more like a game of tug of war than it does a community. It's like everyone forgot the entertainment value behind baseball. Matter of fact, I've watched less White Sox games this season as a result of this board. I've cared less. Perhaps we can blame this on a World Series Championship? Nobody is humble anymore? Well said, Bob D. Too much negativity and not enough fun.

QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Jul 16, 2008 -> 11:05 AM) Here's something else to chew on - Johan Santana is the same age as Buehrle and has 12 less wins. Even if he wins 20 games per season over the next 7 seasons, he's STILL short of 250. In fact, there aren't many active starting pitchers around Buehrle's age that have comparable win/ERA totals. http://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/W_active.shtml notables: 1. Greg Maddux (42) 350 wins - hall of famer 2. Tom Glavine* (42) 305 wins - hall of famer 3. Randy Johnson* (44) 290 wins - hall of famer 4. Mike Mussina (39) 261 wins - probably a hall of famer 5. Jamie Moyer* (45) 238 wins - no 6. Kenny Rogers* (43) 216 wins - maybe in the country music hall of fame Curt Schilling (41) 216 wins - wow is this enough wins? I would've thought he had more. 8. Pedro Martinez (36) 212 wins - too injury prone to end up with enough wins? 9. Andy Pettitte* (36) 211 wins - no 10. John Smoltz (41) 210 wins - yes, because of his saves too 11. Tim Wakefield (41) 174 wins - no 12. Bartolo Colon (35) 150 wins - ha 13. Aaron Sele (38) 148 wins - no 14. Tim Hudson (32) 144 wins - potentially 15. Livan Hernandez (33) 143 wins - no Steve Trachsel (37) 143 wins - hell no 17. Kevin Millwood (33) 139 wins - no 18. Tom Gordon (40) 138 wins - no 19. Woody Williams (41) 132 wins - no 20. Jon Lieber (38) 131 wins - no 21. Jason Schmidt (35) 128 wins - no 22. Esteban Loaiza (36) 126 wins - no 23. Hideo Nomo (39) 123 wins - no Jeff Suppan (33) 123 wins - no, but who knew he had this many wins 25. Roy Halladay (31) 122 wins - potentially yes, if he doesn't get injured Javier Vazquez (31) 122 wins - probably way too inconsistent to last 27. Matt Morris (33) 121 wins - no 28. Derek Lowe (35) 119 wins - no Roy Oswalt (30) 119 wins - potentially yes 30. Freddy Garcia (33) 117 wins - LOLZ Chan Ho Park (35) 117 wins - LOLZ part II Barry Zito* (30) 117 wins - LOLZ part III - apparently 117 is the funny number 33. Mark Buehrle* (29) 113 wins - see above discussion 34. Russ Ortiz (34) 110 wins - no 35. C.C. Sabathia* (27) 108 wins - potentially 36. Mark Mulder* (30) 103 wins - no 37. Kelvim Escobar (32) 101 wins - no Johan Santana* (29) 101 wins - obv has the potential 39. Paul Byrd (37) 100 - no Chris Carpenter (33) 100 - no Shawn Estes* (35) 100 wins - no Jon Garland (28) 100 wins - hmmmm lol 43. Jarrod Washburn* (33) 97 wins - no 44. Darren Oliver* (37) 96 wins - no 45. Brett Tomko (35) 95 wins - no 46. Brad Penny (30) 93 wins - no Jeff Weaver (31) 93 wins - no 48. Carlos Zambrano (27) 92 wins - has the potential 49. Orlando Hernandez (42) 90 wins - no 50. Miguel Batista (37) 88 wins - no 51. Matt Clement (33) 87 wins - no Eric Milton* (32) 87 wins - no Sidney Ponson (31) 87 wins - no 54. Josh Beckett (28) 86 wins - potentially 55. John Lackey (29) 85 wins - no 56. Ramon Ortiz (35) 84 wins - no Julian Tavarez (35) 84 wins - no Randy Wolf* (31) 84 wins - no 59. Ted Lilly* (32) 83 wins - no Jake Peavy (27) 83 wins - has the potential So there's your top 60 active leaders, the ones in bold are the potential hall of famers from Buehrle's age range. There's only 11 candidates bolded from the ages of 27-33 This is a great compiliation. Thanks

QUOTE (watchtower41 @ May 15, 2008 -> 02:52 PM) I'd have to agree...even though Thome looks completely lost at the plate right now. I also think it might be asking a bit too much, Ozzie might want to go with the same line-up mixup for 2 games in a row to see if there is any chemistry there. On the opposite side of spectrum, I forsee Uribe seeing the ball well off Jon... and could be in for a good night. Sounds like a pick to click to me

QUOTE (soxfan3530 @ May 15, 2008 -> 01:36 PM) This thread is already hating on JG. I will go with a different approach. Jon thanks for a solid career with the Sox, but sorry, CQ is coming after you! I don't hate him or anyone else for that matter. I have never liked his arrogance. But, I do appreciate his contributions to the Sox World Series.

QUOTE (knightni @ May 15, 2008 -> 11:39 AM) BAKED Seems like it. I hope we pummel Mr. Smug.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ May 6, 2008 -> 02:32 PM) If I had a dollar for every time I heard that... You'd be broke on this board, at least the last couple years. Everything here is negative. Even a no hit bid tonight and the talk after the game is where was Anderson. But you heard it here first, the tide is turning. Put that one on the f=ing board. Yes!

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 6, 2008 -> 02:41 PM) Well, let me reply to this with a simple question. How exactly can removing Greg Walker make this team worse? by firing an excellent hitting coach who is an asset to the organization.

QUOTE (joesaiditstrue @ May 6, 2008 -> 02:17 PM) yeah, the players are obviously not to be held accountable for their poor performance. lol @ blaming the hitting coach for guys that are slumping, that've been in the league for 10+ years i don't care who your hitting coach is, it's the players that have to translate that coaching to the field, and these guys aren't doing it, their poor performance right now is obviously mental as they're pressing too much *because* of the slump, it's most likely making it worse. it has nothing to do with Greg Walker, ffs. Extremely well put. People are always looking for a quick fix. You guys need to chill. This team is going to turn it around.

QUOTE (Brian @ May 4, 2008 -> 12:34 PM) Does Kalapse know the contract status of Hawk? Hilarious how he ignores the fact that Thome had a chance to tie the game up in the 8th with a single and failed aain, but continues to blame a play 5 innings ago. funny how he kinda forgets that the sox scored unearned runs on eckstein's error. i feel sorry for you guys having to endure these two idiots in the tv booth. dj is a fool and hawk rambles and makes excuse after excuse.

Should I start worrying about Jenks?