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  1. illinilaw08

    Actual Values vs Party Values

    Except here one side does seem to want to work through the issues in a sexual assault allegation, and the other side, to quote Mitch McConnell: “Here’s what I want to tell you,” McConnell said Friday morning, according to The Washington Post. “In the very near future, Judge Kavanaugh will be on the U.S. Supreme Court. So, my friends, keep the faith. Don’t get rattled by all this. We’re going to plow right through it and do our job.” http://fortune.com/2018/09/21/mcconnell-kavanaugh-confirmation/ When Al Franken was accused of sexual assault, the Democrats pressured one of their own to resign. When Kavanaugh was accused, the Republicans want to just get their guy on the Supreme Court. That's not "politics" - that's pointing out the reality of how each side has been handling this issue.
  2. illinilaw08

    Actual Values vs Party Values

    What's happening to Ford is the fault of shitty people doing this to Ford. And if her allegations are true, it's the fault of Kavanaugh. Feinstein appeared to do everything in her power to NOT release the letter from Ford. It leaked, but Feinstein - to my knowledge - merely referred the letter to the FBI (happy to be proven wrong here).
  3. illinilaw08

    Actual Values vs Party Values

    Ford has been subject to death threats and forced to moved. If this is a false claim that was made in an attempt to delay confirmation until the midterms, then Ford was willing to pay one hell of a price to save that seat... On the Dems and Congress, the Senate map is actually a pretty tough road to the Dems taking control of the Senate just because of the seats that are up.
  4. illinilaw08

    Actual Values vs Party Values

    Again, one side is calling for an investigation and the other side is saying this: “Here’s what I want to tell you,” McConnell said Friday morning, according to The Washington Post. “In the very near future, Judge Kavanaugh will be on the U.S. Supreme Court. So, my friends, keep the faith. Don’t get rattled by all this. We’re going to plow right through it and do our job.” http://fortune.com/2018/09/21/mcconnell-kavanaugh-confirmation/
  5. illinilaw08

    Actual Values vs Party Values

    Sounds like you are calling for an investigation. I do lean left, and I don't want Kavanaugh on the Court (among other things, the Republicans stole a Supreme Court seat from Obama which altered the complexion of the Court for the next 40 years). But I also was in favor of Al Franken resigning, even though I loved his politics, because the allegations against him disqualified him as a Senator in my opinion. So I think I can set aside politics when it comes to these allegations. And this is the mind boggling thing to me. Kavanaugh isn't unique in his qualifications, and he isn't unique in his conservatism. Why are the Republicans hell bent on confirming Kavanaugh over these allegations?
  6. illinilaw08

    Actual Values vs Party Values

    We are saying "ok, he might have done it. He shouldn't be one of 9 people on the Supreme Court." That's a far cry from "let's fuck him for life."
  7. illinilaw08

    Actual Values vs Party Values

    Thank goodness this wasn't a problem for the Sandusky investigators, or the investigators into the Catholic Church sexual abuse scandals... And yes - it is evidence. The credibility of the evidence goes to the weight... ETA: Dude - I'm a lawyer who does investigations like this all the time. I'd never take a deposition if I worried that every statement at the depo would be admissible in court. The Rules of Civil Procedure make anything relevant to the claim discoverable (subject to privilege, etc.), regardless of whether it's ultimately admissible.
  8. illinilaw08

    Actual Values vs Party Values

    Actually, it is how investigations work. They would take statements under oath from Kavanaugh, the friend, and Ford. They would probably also interview the therapist, other people who might have a recollection of the party, and put together a report. That's literally what police do every day.
  9. illinilaw08

    Actual Values vs Party Values

    https://www.npr.org/2018/08/23/641181345/heres-the-story-behind-that-trump-tweet-on-south-africa-and-why-it-sparked-outra Explanation of the tweet.
  10. illinilaw08

    Actual Values vs Party Values

    Sure, but here again - one side has asked for an FBI investigation into the claims (which is what happened with Anita Hill in 1991) and the other side is saying, essentially, it doesn't matter - we're going to confirm him anyway. This is a lifetime appointment - one of 9 votes that influences the application of laws on every topic in your original post. These allegations - IMO - necessarily mean that they have to slow the process down to ensure that they get this RIGHT. If the allegations are true, Kavanaugh should simply not be a Supreme Court Justice. ETA: And the evidence from Ford actually has some strong indicators of reliability. She raised the sexual assault in therapy in the early 2010s (2012 IIRC), well before Kavanaugh was up for a spot on SCOTUS. That factor alone merits an actual, thorough, investigation into the claims.
  11. illinilaw08

    Actual Values vs Party Values

    Trump's South Africa tweet was on August 22.
  12. illinilaw08

    Actual Values vs Party Values

    The who is very important - otherwise you are just trading in anecdotes. It's a verifiable fact, for example, that white supremacists have obtained a larger platform since Donald Trump's election. Donald Trump has used his platform as President to push issues that are pretty clearly racial issues (the flag vs. the NFL, tweeting white supremacist talking points about South Africa, "both sides" at Charlottesville, having Bannon and Miller - among others - influencing policy coming out of the White House). I agree that not every Trump supporter is a racist. But it is also true that votes FOR Donald Trump are votes for a guy who seems pretty racist. Maybe you didn't vote for him because of those issues, but you are either willfully blind to his racist statements (IMO a lot of Trump's voters don't think those statements are racially tinged at all) or you don't care enough about those issues to influence your vote. Also, it bugs me when we have these discussions about "generalizations" in politics, and it comes in the same thread where you literally generalized all of Hollywood AND generalized how people on the left talk about Trump supporters...
  13. illinilaw08

    Actual Values vs Party Values

    If you look at the actual policy positions, I think you will see that Democrats tend to at least offer a "how" regarding paying for their policy priorities. Here's Bernie Sanders on "Medicare For All" - https://www.sanders.senate.gov/download/options-to-finance-medicare-for-all?inline=file My issue with the Republicans on fiscal responsibility is that most of their ideas come from a concept that is just flat out wrong. If you put more money in the hands of the wealthy, they will create jobs and that income will trickle down. But when the tax bill passed last year, and companies received big tax cuts, the excess money ended up going to shareholders and not to labor. https://www.nbcnews.com/business/economy/what-did-corporate-america-do-tax-break-buy-record-amounts-n886621
  14. illinilaw08

    Actual Values vs Party Values

    Religion - I generally agree. The problem with religion is when people legislate on the basis of their religion. This is a huge issue (IMO) with the Republican Party. Abortion - Agreed. LGBTQ - Agreed. Free Speech - "Because the more they talk -- the less people will listen to their ignorant shit" does not seem grounded in reality. The President says ignorant shit on a near daily basis and his supporters eat it up. I have not seen the Left calling to criminalize or ban speech, but attacking ignorant viewpoints seems fine. Healthcare - Lot of systemic issues - policy needs to be focused on greater access to care at a lower cost. One party has ideas on that, one party does not. Gun Rights - Stop relying on the 2nd Amendment as a crutch. Acknowledge the reality that more guns = more gun related deaths. Start having actual policy discussions about how to limit gun deaths without banning firearms outright. Military - Generally agree here, but you have to slowly transition from your international commitments. 28,000 troops leaving North Korea tomorrow would create a massive power vacuum in the region. More importantly, I want greater ethical accountability from the military. Saudi Arabia is using US weapons in Yemen with a complete disregard to civilian casualties. Shut down arms sale to the Saudis until they get their shit together. Fiscal Responsibility - Democrats talk about using government to provide a social safety net - Medicaid, housing, food stamps, social security, and Medicare are things that some of the most vulnerable people in society rely upon to survive. Republicans talk about fiscal responsibility when they are out of power, and then immediately pass deficit killing tax reform where the vast majority of the benefit trickles up - to people that do not need the relief. Immigration - Illegal immigration is generally a net positive for the economy. Targeted enforcement - deport the actual criminals - is far superior to the method that the Republicans are throwing out there. Legal immigration is a huge net positive. Hollywood - Curious why you even included them here. Hollywood isn't perfect (obviously), but it also isn't a monolithic entity. They also don't drive policy at a national level. You want to talk about a problem with this country? How about the President of the United States taking advice from partisan shock jocks on Fox News.
  15. illinilaw08

    2018 Democrats thread

    Ignoring the fact that it said that black people are 3/5 of a human? Or that it set up a system where the guy who loses by 3 million votes is elected President? The founders did a lot of things well, but they weren't omniscient and they weren't perfect. They also almost immediately began fighting over what the document actually meant.