heirdog

Hahn has the rare ability to make you feel good about asking your question and the answer sounds eloquent and satisfying. It isn’t until about a week later that you realize you were duped by well-crafted platitudes.

As soon as Bruce said that deferred money improves Net Present Value...he should have deactivated his account

Please stop. This is beyond amateur hour “insider” trolling.

The insight seems to be based on several different circumstances weaved into a plausible scenario. If that’s your take, great. Roll with it and many will both be interested and perhaps agree and react. But Occam’s razor is that despite what some believe, every single person in the Sox FO are not ridiculously incompetent. Not one person here should believe for a second that Jerry has swooped in 2 months into this (and 2+ years in the planning) and put some archaic comp and stifled negotiations at a level below what the preferred destination Yankees (and probably 10 other teams) would pay.

Bucket (macsandz), rabbit, etc are legit and bucket only comes in from time to time on major topics (big trades in 2017 and Manny mania) but I have a hard time trusting a poster that swoops in 18 hours ago and starts posting like an insider.

KW never handles the negotiations, especially on FA signings. It’s always been Hahn or Jerry (for the big ones).

IF offer is 7/175 and Sox haven’t budged, then safe to assume it was the original offer that Sox made a couple weeks ago. Lozano has had that time to drum up interest and get a better one. So why should the White Sox increase their offer? sure they have probably intimated they would go higher if necessary but why is that necessary at this point?

7/175 w option year triggering 8th year $75 million payment making it 8/250 essentially...if Manny hits certain performance metrics such as 7 MVP awards

Perspective. No team is going to come out of a meeting with a free agent player and state “the meeting was just okay.” If they say anything, both sides will say it was “great”...helps in the recruitment relationship and the negotiations with other teams, respectively.

Other than negotiation fatigue, the Sox are in absolutely no rush. They don’t have a legitimate shot at the title w Manny next year.

Funny thing about Bob is he’s being worked by both sides (Sox Phils), the top (Boras) and bottom (Lozano). It’s quite impressive that he can keep his fed narratives straight

Jon Jay’s homophone

Cut John Jay

Sorry to hear that. Wish you and your family the best.

And we have the benefit of no real cap in the early years so the AAV can be higher in the early years and bargain level in years 6-8 (opt out year 6), which will be exercised if still performing. Fine for us as it meets our window and we can reset and go after other whales (our own hopefully) at that point.