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Some will, but less so if we take reasonable measures vs full on shutdown. I don't even see how a full shutdown would work. Do we have the infrastructure to magically deliver food to people stuck in their homes for weeks at a time?

This is a bit narrow-minded. You can't expect 100% of people to stop making a living. Isn't the stat like 1/4 of the country doesn't have vacation time and are paid hourly?

I brought this up the other day - do we really trust anything the Chinese government reports?

I dunno, seems to be well credentialed. http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/about-us/cidrap-staff/michael-t-osterholm-phd-mph

Yeah this expert said this is probably wishful thinking. MERS was a coronavirus that spread easily in the heat of the desert. There's been no study suggesting that heat or seasonal changes have any affect.

I get what you're saying and think it's a good practice, but it's also going to have to be over the next year that we do this...really until a vaccine is found and made readily available. It's not just do it for 60 days and then go back to normal, otherwise you just re-open the possibility of a mass infection again. This expert on the podcast was saying that even in China, once the quarantine restrictions are lifted, there's going to be another round of infections.

So, we're canceling/postponing all of these things....how long do we expect this to last? Until a vaccine is created? Which could be 6, 8, 12 months away? This doesn't seem like a workable solution long term. And I still think the economic impact and resulting poverty of shutting down society for 6+ months may be worse than the 1-3% mortality rate that's been discussed. Anyone catch Joe Rogan's podcast yesterday? He had a top infectious disease doctor on who said something interesting...basically the only real way to stop the spread of this thing is to wait until a large number of people have been exposed/infected. The vast majority of people will build their own immunity to it, and then the infection won't spread anymore. But, that obviously comes with a big cost. Not a lot of good options here...

So far as I understand it, there is no treatment available here...it's just like the flu. You drink fluids, stay hydrated and power through. People going to hospital is only a good form of controlled quarantine, but is there some other medical benefit I'm missing for the average person? For an old person I could see it, but not for most of the population.

You may be right, but you also may be assuming too much here. We know this virus can infect someone and they have no symptoms or just mild cold-like symptoms. It's entirely possibly the entire ship was exposed, so intervention/quarantine did nothing. What's the timeline of when people became infected, when interventions were put in place and when the deaths came? Are you confident interventions prevented people from being exposed/getting infected?

sorry, i meant to type .8%. Still way less than 3-5%.

Whats the demographics of the ship? Is it a true representation of the US and other countries globally? Does it have more elderly people (it's a cruise ship, so probably) than the overall population? Were other illnesses going around (again, it's a cruise ship) making people more susceptible to infection? What kind of care are these people given? Is there something more they could have been given in a hospital that isn't available on a ship? It may well end up being an accurate test study, but it's too premature to say that it is right now. And let's assume it's accurate - that's basically the absolute worst case scenario given the conditions (the confined space of a cruise ship).

Most articles i've read says the 3% figure is vastly overestimated. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-06/coronavirus-s-true-lethal-power-still-eludes-disease-experts Again, the problem is we have no idea what the actual number of infected is, so you can't base mortality rates on only the "known" figure. Even the cruise ship petri dish that we have has a rate of .08% and who knows what kind of medical treatment those people got/are getting.

Shutting down society for weeks on end would destroy the world economically, causing more poverty, death and destruction.

I'm no expert and you've been living in it/reading about it far more than me, but if we have basically no idea how many are infected, with no symptoms or even mild symptoms, any guess as to the actual mortality rate is just that - a guess. Maybe the Wuhan numbers are more reliable, but those stats are still coming from the Chinese government. Not the most trustworthy source. I'm not suggesting we act like our asinine President and pretend this thing doesn't exist. But at the same time, shutting down society is a mass-hysteria response that isn't very reasonable. The media hyping this thing up doesn't help either.

We're headed towards a full on global recession thanks to the mass hysteria over a virus that may end up being less lethal than the common flu. Insane.

Whelp, hope everyone enjoyed the last year of growth!

There was more to it than Jerry simply feeling nice. The Bulls got the benefit, most likely of being able to waive him immediately and not have him on the books while they fought over nonpayment with the league and with the players' association. They reached a settlement for a reason...it wasn't for his benefit alone. You may be right about insurance, but I assume these franchises all have policies to cover instances where they're contractually obligated (with good legal reason or not) to pay players that are injured and can't suit up. edit: From this (https://www.espn.com/nba/news/story?id=1722485) story: The Bulls got something out of it too. There's zero chance Reinsdorf, or any owner, does something nice without getting something back in return.

I'm sure insurance paid it, not Jerry. edit: it was also a mutually agreed buyout, it's not like Jerry (insurance) paid the rest of his contract.

Wtf Purdue?

The dude got suspended because of his anger. That's not competitiveness, he's just an asshole. How many other coaches in the big ten have been suspended for being an ass? I literally can't think of any other than guys like Bob Knight, who was a great coach and an awful human being. Yesterday, whether wrong or right, is just another example. Illinois' coaches shouldn't have been chirping at him or other Iowa players, but as the HEAD coach, why are you even getting involved? Be above the situation, say good game and move on. Instead, he actually pulls his players off the court (something he has done before in similar situations).

He's a fine coach, doesn't mean he's not a dick too.

It's incredible he has a job in 2020. He's a clown. Frankly I'd be embarrassed if I were an Iowa fan. He's a meme-generator on a nightly basis. It was funny to actually be let down after a road loss. Expectations have changed for this program so quickly. Despite terrible play from their starters, they had the game there for the taking with a lead and the ball with 4 minutes to go. Giorgi's lazy pass against the press created a 4 pt swing and that was that. I think it was 11 straight points by Iowa as part of a 15-3 run after that to finish the game. I'm growing a bit concerned that Kofi has hit the freshman wall. He hasn't looked good in 4 out of the last 5 games now. I think a big part of that is a lot of those teams - Iowa, Michigan, Northwestern - have 5's that spread the floor and shoot 3's. I think he's getting warn out covering so much floor. The next two games are huge. Beat Maryland and MSU at home and you're in the driver seat for the conference title. Lose one or both and you have some tough, tough must wins on the road - Rutgers, Penn State and Ohio State. Man it's nice playing relevant games in February again!

If they can win @ Mich and at home against Minnesota I think they are legit contenders for the conference title. Lot of winnable games against the top of the conference left (home against Maryland and Michigan State). I'll be rooting for Indiana tomorrow. First time in a LONG time I can say that.

Collins probably has another season before his seat gets warm. They went to the tourney and have had two terrible seasons since. If things don't improve next year I think you hear rumblings. Then maybe the season after that when it's a possibility they move on. He's signed through 2024-2025. Painter is years away. He just went to an elite eight last year and two sweet sixteens before that. He gets to the tournament nearly every year. Gene Keady is the standard at Purdue and he has met, if not exceeded, that. That's his job for life unless Purdue goes 3-4 seasons being totally irrelevant, which I don't see happening. He's too good of a coach and knows how to recruit guys for his system.

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