Roughneck
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1 hour ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:
...the former fiancée of porn mogul Seymore Butts.
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On 2/14/2019 at 11:17 AM, Whiterat29 said:
This is counterfeit Chinese garbage. Not only is it stealing money from the teams and players, but the jerseys look like trash and fit like they were sewn by blind people. Wrong colors, wrong fonts, bad fabrics, and crappy stitching.
Also, counterfeiting ventures fund terrorism and organized crime. Buy a T-shirt at Marshall's if you really need Sox gear but don't feel like paying full price.
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2 minutes ago, Saufley said:
Insane! Pages as a goal?
Not like we have anything else to talk about. Accounts on Twitter posting false rumors, random people tweeting they heard from their cop friend that Manny was going to sign, The death and resurrection of Dan Clark, and Hector Gomez commenting on every tweet about Machado. This is all we have.
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11 minutes ago, GermanSoxFan said:
Seriously though, I don't see him signing with the Giants. Their ML team is terrible and overpaid and the cupboard in the minors is pretty barren. Harper or not, I don't see the Giants being competitive over the next 5. years.
True. And more so than this, he wants to be seen as one of the best players ever when he retires. If he plays a decade in that ballpark, he will be losing 80-100 homers off his career total. No way he does that.
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4 minutes ago, Rowand44 said:
Forget 800, when do we get to 1000 pages?
We gained 34 pages in the last 20 hours. Weekends are slower, but if we get a few rumors early next week, we can probably reach 1,000 pages Thursday.
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35 minutes ago, fathom said:
If Bryce signs with any team that's not the Sox or Phillies, then it's possible the Phillies (especially) get desperate and raise their offer to Manny in order to not strike out on both.
But more likely than not, Harper signs with the Phillies or White Sox. Other than possibly the Padres, that is Machado's entire market, too. So if Harper signs with the Phillies and the Sox then have no competition for Machado, they probably aren't going to up their offer.
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1 minute ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said:
And $15M is not going to be the difference maker.
Over the length of the contract, we're talking about tens of millions of dollars in difference. That is going to have some influence.
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2 minutes ago, Soxbadger said:
Yep your taxed on where the games are played. So games in NY, NY tax etc. Its still higher in CA, and the easier baseline is 50% of salary would be paid at a higher rate.
So on $30mil, $15mil is at the higher rate.
Right, but as other mentioned, the Padres will have 19 road games a year between LAD and SF. Throw in an interleague Angels series every few years, too. So instead of 50%, it's 62.5%.
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4 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:
We really need Arenado to extend, just so we can see an exact price point for Machado.
What teams realistically would suddenly jump back into this if Nolan was removed from the board? The Yankees would suddenly be willing to allocate $250~300 million?
It would also put some additional pressure on Hahn and JR to weigh the magnitude of missing on Manny and then having to fight tooth and nail over Rendon or Bogaerts.
Arenado is not going to sign and extension before Manny signs. He has another year left and no reason to jump the gun. If he's re-upping with the Rockies, he will let Manny set the market, then sign a deal for slightly more.
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23 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said:
Heyman is a dope. His market is not likely to improve when Harper goes off the board; quite the opposite. Discounting the Giants (Harper doesn't want that park) and maybe the Nats getting back in, his suitors are the same suitors as Machado. Maybe the Sox get antsy and decide to give Manny an extra $50 mil after Bryce signs. But more likely, Machado just loses an interested team and therefore more leverage. Right now the Sox are bidding against the Phillies and this boogieman of the Padres maybe wanting to spend. Remove the Phillies from that equation and it's just the Sox vs. the Padres scarecrow.
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Just now, mqr said:
Alonzo
Did you guys ever think that maybe Yonder has just been spelling it wrong all these years?
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46 minutes ago, Orlando said:
Why are people saying SD is not realistic? To be fair I think they are a very realistic destination and have spent money in the past. They worry me the most.
1) The Padres are leveraged with crazy debt payments due to deals the previous owner made. 10% of their operating budget is paying down debt.
2) They signed Hosmer to a huge contract last year, and Hosmer is not a good player.
3) Outside of the Hosmer deal, the current owner has cried poor about all other spending opportunities.
4) Manny reportedly wants to be on the east coast or as close as possible.
5) The Padres reportedly haven't made a preliminary offer yet, and Lozano won't let them meet Manny until he gets a serious offer from them.
6) Petco Park is bad for homers. I don't think Manny is as concerned about his legacy as Harper, so I could see him signing to play in a SD/SF and lose a bunch of homers from his career total. But the money would have to be much bigger than anywhere else.
I think it's either the Sox or Phillies. The Padres are in reports because they want attention and to show their fans they tried. Lozano is keeping the Padres in the news because he needs another team for leverage against the Sox. I have no concern at all about Manny going to San Diego.
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11 hours ago, southsider2k5 said:
A top notch closer on this team seems like a huge waste. Of all of the things we could spend money on. This would be the last.
I don't know that it would ever be good bet to give a huge contract to a closer who was last seen getting rocked, as Kimbrel did last fall. The only contract I would give him would be a 1-year deal with intent to flip him. No thanks.
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2 minutes ago, steveno89 said:
Where is this talk of Harper AND Machado coming from? Hahn already shot down the idea of signing both as being not realistic financially to have two massive contracts on the books.
We're discussing the possibility based on Shack's article and the few nonsense tweets people shared. While I don't think it's going to happen, you can ignore Hahn's comments. He's trying to get the best deal on each guy, and if he basically says "Yeah, we'll spend $65 mil a year on these guys" he then has a harder time convincing Machado he can't go up from $28 mil to $30 mil a year. He's not going to tip his hand.
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1 minute ago, Perfect Vision said:
I think the Sox have their price for both guys. They may expect the Phillies to beat their offer for Harper, but I don't think a Machado signing takes them out of the Harper market.
I've said it a few times, I think the plan to sign both guys would pretty much require one of them to opt out in 4 years or so (or the luxury tax to be lifted and the Sox to be dominating the league and making so much money that they don't mind a $250 mil payroll). They could easily afford both players at $35 mil a year for the next few years. But once all the kids get to arbitration and you're looking to extend them? It would be really hard to stay under that tax threshold, even before signing another top starter on the free agent market.
So, as long as they don't both turn into Heyward, the Sox would be okay. If they're both good, they would presumably opt-out, and the Sox could decide which one to extend at that point. Still don't think there's any way of that happening unless Machado and Harper are better friends than we know, and they both decided they want to play together.
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2 hours ago, Orlando said:
What does this last sentence by Yonder mean? Of course he's going to eventually sign somewhere but is he hinting that he thinks it will be with the Sox?
"I think that's all going to get taken care of. Yadda yadda yadda. I'm really excited for this season."
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23 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said:
According to Ruth Bader Ginsburg, #WhiteSox have signed both Manny Machado and Bryce Harper.
This is false. She died 60 days ago, and the Ginsberg bot will be writing her decisions.
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2 minutes ago, fathom said:
Did George Costanza end up getting that job with the Mets after all? These things are misleading because 1) most of the time, "front office person" is some random worker and not the GM; and 2) They wouldn't have any info, just guessing like any of us.
That being said, Harper is 100% not signing with the Giants due to their park. The Yankees are out on Machado, and Manny hasn't met with the Padres or even received an offer from them yet. I don't know how anyone who has been paying attention to the reports could think those were realistic destinations.
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2 minutes ago, Mooseman said:
Those were memorial day uniforms. The Orioles in a dark color which would explain a standard black glove which by the way the Rawlings looks to be orange...
This photo was from last year in the normal Orioles uniform and he was using the same glove he used with the Dodgers. Anyway, my point was that while the black and white gloves almost certainly means Manny is leaning towards signing here, he could still change his mind and just switch gloves, anyway. Looks like he uses several throughout the season anyway.
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1 minute ago, Mooseman said:
Well ya black and orange wouldn't match those uniforms... lol. Manny definitely rides with the look good feel good, feel good play good mentality ha
Regardless, orange is still the Orioles' primary color, and he used that glove in other games where the team wore their normal uniforms. And gloves are hard to break in, so he probably broke it in during spring training and used it along with a few gloves throughout the year.
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5 minutes ago, bmags said:
Not according to the definitive google image search for "manny machado images"
2 minutes ago, Roughneck said:That was my source as well. I found this one which was dated.
Also found this photo of him using a solid black glove from earlier in the year. He could have used a black glove with the Dodgers with no "clashing." So, who knows how many gloves he actually used. https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/may/27/nationals-have-stability-orioles-free-fall/
Also, you don't have to type in the word "image" if you're doing a google image search LOL.
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Just now, bmags said:
Not according to the definitive google image search for "manny machado images"
That was my source as well. I found this one which was dated.
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8 minutes ago, Kiebs13 said:
The post literally said they are his gloves for the upcoming season, so not likely to be generic.
Not generic. They are Manny's gloves. But black is a neutral glove color and all teams have players with black gloves. The white is more telling, though.
2 minutes ago, bmags said:Here is an important opinion based on a quick image search (no other research necessary everyone)
While in baltimore he wore a black and orange glove. When he went to the dodgers, he didn't keep black and orange, he had a classic leather glove. So he clearly wants to either wear the team colors or no colors and you can't convince me otherwise thanks bye.
Unless he changed gloves a few times last year, he wore that same brown glove when he was with the Orioles.
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3 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:
I find it hard to believe Rawlings would be the entity breaking this signing. The lack of silver and some red make it look more Yankee like to me even though the don't wear black. I am surprised he would use all new gloves every year. Some guys still use what they were using in high school
Black is a neutral glove color, as all teams have players using black gloves. But adding white to the glove in a way players normally incorporate teams' colors (orange for the Orioles, teal for the Mariners), that seems deliberate.
I think the color choice means Manny is leaning towards the Sox. But he could end up signing elsewhere and Rawlings would just make him new gloves. Not like this is a deal-breaker.
Machado signs with Padres 10/300
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Wait a minute, our second baseman was playing third, so they had someone else play second?! Holy fuck. Contract the franchise.