QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Dec 14, 2006 -> 10:26 AM)
Pretty much its been a one to one relationship with how profits have turned and how the payroll has turned. As Mike has shown in years past, pretty much you can look at the Forbes report and say that whatever the profit has been, you can see payroll increase at the same step. Anyone who thinks that this organization is cheap with a 100 million dollar payroll is a moron.
And for those using the Garland example, just stop. That is called getting the most for your trade. What will bring you more back, a pitcher in their walk year, or a pitcher with 2 years on the contract. KW thinks he can get an impact pitcher that can front line our rotation with Garland he will ship him off. Plain and simple. And for the love of God its Jon Garland, not Cy Young. He is a durable 200 innning pitcher. Batters hit .294 against him, so lets stop like if we trade him we will be a 5th place team for 10 years. We as fans need to stop falling in love with the names on the back. Because there is no loyalty for the most part either way. FA's want to make the money, and the clubs want to keep a product on the field that can make them money. Why is this so hard for everyone to see. We get silly threads about players being selfish, or the owners being selfish. They are all selfish. Its called human nature. If the cubs would pay me 126 million dollars, as much as I hate them, I would put the hat on right now and smile for the camera. And laugh all the way to the bank later as I bought my Island in the pacific.
Every thing you just said took the words right out of my mouth. Look at Texas, they signed ARod to that huge contract and got so desperate to get rid of him because he tied up so much payrole they couldnt field a competitive team around him. Now they are paying him 9M a year for the rest of his contract to wear a Yankee uni. Is that what some Sox fans around here want KW to get stuck with?
One of many reasons I've had pride in being a Sox fan is that we (Sox fans) as a whole are far more intelligent than the idiot Cub fans. Some people around here seem to have the same mentality that Cub fans have and its sick.
Wait and see when Soriano has enuff with the Cubs orginazation he will be demanding a trade and when he gets traded the Cubs will be eating his salary just like Texas. Is that what some the Sox fans around here want KW to get stuck with? Not me, I still have faith in whatever it is KW is doing.
QUOTE(CanOfCorn @ Dec 14, 2006 -> 11:36 AM)
Give me a f'rinstance. Lugo, no thanks. Abreu, he wouldn't come here to leadoff. Guillen, maybe, but doesn't solve our leadoff problem.
With the way these contracts are, $10 million for Garcia is a drop in the bucket. This wasn't a White Flag trade. It was a, "we aren't going to be able to re-sign all of these guys" trade.
I mean, c'mon, we haven't even signed Cintron or Crede yet and they are going to get raises. Do we REALLY want to be the Red Sox, Yankees or Mets?
I don't.