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QUOTE (qwerty @ Oct 23, 2011 -> 11:37 PM) Well i always suggest a japanese film called ''after life''.... clearly not the after.life with liam neeson. Plot: After death, people have just one week to choose only a memory to keep for eternity. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0165078/ Trailer: http://www.imdb.com/video/screenplay/vi1605697817/ =================================== Das experiment... 2001 you very well may have seen this. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0250258/ Plot: The movie is based on the infamous "Stanford Prison Experiment" conducted in 1971. A makeshift prison is set up in a research lab, complete with cells, bars and surveillance cameras. For two weeks 20 male participants are hired to play prisoners and guards. The 'prisoners' are locked up and have to follow seemingly mild rules, and the 'guards' are told simply to retain order without using physical violence. Everybody is free to quit at any time, thereby forfeiting payment. In the beginning the mood between both groups is insecure and rather emphatic. But soon quarrels arise and the wardens employ ever more drastic sanctions to confirm their authority. Based off of a true story. This was remade with adrien brody recently. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0250258/ =========================================== The diving bell and the butterfly. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0401383/ Plot: The true story of Elle editor Jean-Dominique Bauby who suffers a stroke and has to live with an almost totally paralyzed body; only his left eye isn't paralyzed. Think about what you just read. I will continue adding to this during the night... these are just some i like... and think others would enjoy. have heard of the Diving Bell and the Butterfly but hadn't seen it...it either won the Academy Award or at least was put up for one of the main nominations (Actor/Director/Screenplay/Best Movie) also am familiar with those experiments (from psychology classes) but haven't seen i guess "after life" is not connected in any way with "hereafter" the eastwood/damon picture...

Well, it has worked relatively well for almost 20 years in Kansas City. After Glass/Wal-Mart mentality took over the team, they've made tidy profits because of the revenue-sharing but never have spent the type of dollars that Ewing Kauffman did to field one of the best teams in baseball (from roughly 1976 until the the strike).

Yeah, just no way Holland for Thornton and Danks is enough. Holland is under team control for at least 3 more years...not sure if it's 4 or not. You'd be halfway thankful just to get salary relief and a B-tier prospect for Thornton alone. The Rangers have some soul-searching to do about Harrison/Holland for Game 6 or 7. Ogando's gone from the key to their entire bullpen to a powerkeg with a lit fuse.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Oct 21, 2011 -> 10:45 AM) I'll add that one. Another one I really enjoyed recent was Trollhunter, and the commom theme between a lot of these movies is a small budget. So how about that? Movies that did a lot with very little. Since you and qwerty are on the obscure movies kick... Chinese movies: Let the Bullets Fly (very good, Chow Yun Fat) Love in Space Hot Summer Days IP Man 1 and 2 Shaolin Detective Dee and the Mystery of the Phantom Flame (very good) Du LaLa Du The Grandmasters (coming out Dec. 1, Tony Leung and Zhang Ziyi) The Flowers of War (about Nanjing Massacre, with Christian Bale as star, famous director Zhang Yimou) The Sorcerer and the White Snake (Jet Li) If You Are the One Part I&II (Shu Qi/Ge You) Assembly (2007) one of the best war movies of all-time Thai Movies BTS Love Story Hello, Stranger By the way, what's the story on Paranormal Activity III? A lot of critics have given favorable reviews...Ebert of course, not so much.

QUOTE (sunofgold @ Oct 23, 2011 -> 06:06 PM) Cards getting rid of Colby: HUGH + White Sox getting rid of Teahen's contract : + BJs getting Colby and Teahen's contract : - - .....suckers.haha! Some revenge for '93! What about their revenge for Mike Sirotka? Guess that was David Wells' 2001 season, fighting with Frank and the complete suckage fest that was that year...the Thomas injury and 14-29 killed them, although they did fight back to .500 at least.

Strange to look at yahoo sports and seeing Jackson's picture with the Sox hat. Typical E-Jax line though, 5 walks through 5 innings and only 1 ER. Always an enigma. And Holland's really dealing tonight. If CJ Wilson keeps falling backwards, that helps the Danks market a little bit.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Oct 23, 2011 -> 07:34 PM) What is their worth then? Somewhere between Michael Bourn and Hunter Pence.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 23, 2011 -> 06:31 PM) If anyone is silly enough to give up a pair of MLB-ready grade-A pitching prospects for those two, of course you take them...but no team is going to give up multiple big time pitchers for that set of players. Apparently Marty thinks it's an easy one to pull off...because we're usually so successful at identifying A ball players and projecting them eventually for the big leagues. That hasn't been one of the organization's strengths, either. Look at the Javy deal, we haven't gotten anything out of Gilmore and maybe if we're very lucky Santos R. can become a serviceable replacement for Ohman. After Flowers, both of those prospects were more hyped than Lillibridge, who was considered more or less a throw-in as the Braves had pretty much written him off.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Oct 22, 2011 -> 09:00 PM) Which of the Braves top 3 or 4 pitching prospects would you not deal Viciedo for? I wouldn't...certainly not until mid-season of 2012. If we really want to compete in the next couple of seasons, we'll need hitting. You can't trade away the one potential young impact bat you have...even if on paper it seems like it could be a steal. Not to mention with the exception of one trade in their history, the Braves always have had a knack for trading the right players away and keeping the best ones in their own organization. I trust Don Cooper to get the most out of the pitchers we do have on our roster at this point. If Chris Sale is a failure in the starting rotation, then you have to start looking at every available option, including trading Viciedo. But not this offseason.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Oct 22, 2011 -> 06:45 PM) Caufield, The idea is quite simple. It's easier to find an outfielder than it is a starting pitcher. A team like Atlanta that has pitching depth might be more willing to give up one of its prospects for Viciedo than it would be for Quentin. Yes, and therein lies the problem. The Braves have a boatload of pitching talent, but it's going to take more than Viciedo....teams today are simply too afraid to trade young/quality starting pitching. And if it's so easy to find an outfielder, don't tell that to most GM's. Look how difficult it has been for the White Sox to find either a centerfielder or legit leadoff hitter the last 5-6 years. There aren't as many RF's who'll give you 30 homers and 100 RBI's and not kill you defensively as you'd think. How many games are you going to win with Rios, DeAza and Lillibridge as your starting outfield?

Marty... 1) If you deal Viciedo, how would that make any sense with Quentin being on the way out as early as this off-season? 2) It's almost impossible to get a young impact pitcher for what is the equivalent of a DH. 3) Viciedo's lack of power and offensive "slump" after the wrist injury at mid-season put a little bit of a damper on his value. 4) Dealing Viciedo and keeping Quentin isn't very logical in what amounts to a "rebuilding" year...and it makes the outfield for the 2013 season (that year you're so worried about already) Rios, DeAza and Lillibridge. Not good. Viciedo has the ability to be an impact hitter and is under our control for a long time. Odds are probably less than 50/50 that any of Rios/DeAza/Lillibridge will put up 800+ OPS's next season or in 2013. Even if Rios plays at nearly an All-Star level again, regressions from DeAza, Lillibridge and Konerko will nullify any gains. I'm very concerned about the near future beginning in 2013. I can see a scenario where they keep their movable parts next year, win the division, and attendance remains flat or down. And what do you propose they do that would actually increase attendance for 2012 and beyond? The only thing they can do is win, preferably by getting out ahead of the division like in 2000, 2005 and 2008. Even if they DO manage to accomplish that, there will be so much skepticism to support the team it would take a run of 2005-06 before a lot of fans had confidence in this organization again.

QUOTE (dpd9189 @ Oct 22, 2011 -> 12:18 PM) He's brutal. My initial point was that if you look at the Sox 05 team, that team was built by good drafting (MB, Rowand, Crede) and alot of smart signings and smart trades. Since then, KW has tried to sign and trade for big money players and for the most part it's blown up in his face. I'd like to see the Sox start using the formula that won them the WS in 05 again rather than the current one which hasn't worked at all. We signed a TON of veteran players, it's just that they were allocated across the budget instead of making huge numbers like our "superstar" salaries for Rios, Dunn and Peavy. Dye AJ Vizcaino Iguchi Hermanson Pods El Duque (and he was seriously overpaid, of all those deals) Blum (ASB) Got rid of Valentin, Ordonez and C-Lee.

QUOTE (JPN366 @ Oct 22, 2011 -> 01:38 PM) Everybody's missing the big picture here...the White Sox are about to aqcuire a boatload of light hitting shortstop prospects from other organizations who project as utility men. We already have Escobar, the kid from the Marlins, Kuhn and Marty would count Lillibridge...seemingly enough for now. Marty, what's the point? Should we begin every post/thread with a disclaimer: "We wanted both Ozzie Guillen and Kenny Williams to be replaced, BUT...." C'mon. You're FORCING everyone to defend Williams with your ridiculous one-man vendetta against him. The odds aren't that great that the White Sox will do very well the next two seasons anyway, so unless you hate Rick Hahn too (do you....? you'll probably accuse him of being a rat or fink for not quitting when KW is fired or moved upstairs or spying for JR I'd guess), WHAT will you have left to complain about when Williams is gone? Maybe because you can't write about Ozzie Guillen and KW everyday or bi-weekly in the offseason, you had to bring your rancor here. Perhaps you should film another segment challenging AJ with your assertion you can steal bases on him easily...?

Well...I'm sure everyone with the Braves is familiar with Beckham and that entire situation, and know about all the time that Walker spent with Gordon. Must be a growing feeling around the game that nobody in baseball can "fix" Gordon and that the problems are all in his head... They're trusting a lot of their younger hitters to Walk. The theory always was that he was more successful with veterans than younger players, I guess with the possible exception of Quentin in 2008.

Dick Allen?

QUOTE (jhonnydanks @ Oct 20, 2011 -> 05:05 PM) you know what's funny about this? wilder still sits front row behind visitor on deck circle with his fat a** world series ring on at a lot of home games. i tried to talk to the dude. he is the biggest scum bag in the world. you can pretty much tell from looking at the guy. That's funny because he basically claimed he was indigent in his last hearing/court appearance. Wilder at one point owned six homes in the Phoenix area before selling two, according to records. Records also show he made about $185,000 in 2007. Last month, Wilder filed a petition with Family Court in Arizona seeking to lower his child support payments. He indicated he was making $7.25 an hour, or roughly $15,000 a year. Supposedly, he lives in San Francicsco now. Not sure who got him the White Sox tickets. Let's hope it wasn't KW.

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Oct 19, 2011 -> 11:17 PM) I don't really care about any farm reports since most prospects bust anyway. Santos and Sale are two of the best young arms in the game and have established themselves as guys who get the job done. Beckham and Morel at least play amazing D so I have no problem letting them learn up here. And maybe Dayan really is a powerhouse, I dunno. What's wrong with that? How is that bad? Because we don't have highly touted guys like Eric Hosmer? Where are these teams that are graduating superstars every year? Matt Wieters and Greinke sucked for a long time. I just don't see how being at the bottom of these grading articles has any importance when nobody EVER knows if a guy is going to be good until he's called up. And even that doesn't settle it since the learning curve at the big league level is usually multiple years, even for many HOF players. GMAFB with all this jazz. Even if we had Hudson we'd still hear about our crappy minors. Whatever. There are only 750 MLB players and most of them suck compared to the 30-50 good players and the 20 or so superstars. We're doing fine IMO; it's the veterans that are pissing everyone off. Think of it like this...all the top 10-15 college football programs can get an array of 4 and 5 star recruits, mixed in with a few three stars. If a team/coaching staff is VERY good at developing them (like the University of Iowa), they can compete OCCASIONALLY with the top programs, but the depth and overall talent of the "big boys" wins out more often than not. And Iowa isn't a program that can just "reload" on the fly, usually they have draft classes that stick together and gel as 4th year juniors and 5th year seniors, when they've had the benefit of coaching and time in the strength and conditioning program. No amount of development/coaching/training can offset the lack of talent we have in our system, though. The Red Sox have found a pretty good model over the last decade with Epstein...of course, they've spent a TON of money on international signings, which is an obvious difference from the White Sox spending and performing in the bottom tier of organizations. Clearly, there's a correlation. How JR's allegiance to Bud Selig (going for mostly collegiate players with fewer options instead of the best talent with signability questions) would keep the White Sox from emulating Bud's former team, the Brewers, is beyond me. Of course, it wasn't until Bud gave up control of that team that it really started to become a competitive organization in the last 5-7 years. Certainly JR can see how much better the attendance is in Milwaukee than in a much bigger Chicago market. Heck, Pittsburgh almost nipped us in attendance this year. Clearly, that's a warning sign or shot across the bow by Sox fans.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Oct 19, 2011 -> 10:40 PM) Why are you singling me out for my objectivity? Because if you're really a White Sox fan, and don't have an axe to grind, it should be easy to list good points about Kenny Williams. And, if you'll notice the last post, I also included the ubiquitous Greg since he called Cooper a rat/squealer, so I found a similar situation where an employee of the Sox went over the head of his direct boss at risk to his own career. Do you want me to start off with a short list of Ozzie Guillen "positives"?

QUOTE (La Marr Hoyt HOF @ Oct 19, 2011 -> 10:27 PM) 2005 White Sox, win because of pitching ... number one starter, Yankees reject and headcase, 'the Count' .... Ozzie go f^ck yourself. Cant wait for you to suck with the Marlins Marty/Cowley..."Contreras lost the only game in the 2005 post-season to the unforgettable force of nature that is Paul Byrd of the Fu-Manchu Dynasty." Greg/Marty, here's another one for you...do you think that Rafael Santana is a rat or did the right thing for the White Sox organization??? Whistle-Blower in White Sox Latin American Bonus Skimming Case Revealed The whistle-blower is Rafael Santana, 52, a Sox scout in the Dominican Republic and a former shortstop who was on the Mets’ 1986 championship team. Mr. Santana, who could not be reached, told Mr. Reinsdorf he was disturbed when he heard that David Wilder, who was then senior director of player personnel for the White Sox, forced young Dominicans to kick back portions of their signing bonuses. ... Mr. Santana’s boss was Mr. Wilder, so the perils of truth-telling were clear. Nervous, Mr. Santana sought advice from Jim Snyder, a respected organization veteran who was a special assistant for the team’s minor league coaches. Mr. Snyder called Mr. Reinsdorf. "He said I had to talk to our head guy in the Dominican, Rafael Santana, about something bad happening down there," Mr. Reinsdorf said. In late February 2008, they met in Tucson, then the Sox’s spring training site. "He told me that players told him they were forced to give Wilder some of their signing bonus," Mr. Reinsdorf said. He quickly called Robert DuPuy, then the president and chief operating officer of Major League Baseball, and Sheldon Zenner, a former federal prosecutor and partner at the team’s Chicago law firm, Katten Muchin Rosenman L.L.P.

QUOTE (Tex @ Oct 19, 2011 -> 10:03 AM) Everytime I see this headline I wonder if he's really hiking the Appalachian Trail. Are you saying KW's actually having an affair with an Argentinian woman but pretending to be in the D.R.? Would be pretty hard to prove he's actually there unless you're with NCIS or CSI.

Here's something for you, Marty. List as many "good" things about KW or the job he's done since becoming the GM in 2001 as you can think of. I'll do the same for Ozzie. Just want to see if you have the ability to be objective (or not). You keep saying you haven't unduly supported Ozzie and that you agree/d he should be fired, fine...fair enough.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Oct 18, 2011 -> 08:55 PM) I don't understand. 1,288 Where did you go to broadcasting/journalism school again? I hope not Medill. Is it too late to ask for a refund?

Can I practice the French version, naivete`, instead? BTW, where has Victory been lurking these days? Haven't seen him posting much. Maybe he's spying on the spies spying on KW's spies. In the end, can we envision a new Marty-directed Redford/Pitt/DeNiro/Bourne/CIA movie rewrite in the future, incorporating these recent White Sox spying allegations as a key subplot. If all else fails, let's just call everyone rats, spies and squealers. That will make the organization more functional and synergistic, surely.

Maybe he's trying to find winter ball homes for both of his sons? Of course, with the pressure that is placed on those teams to win right away (and with the plethora of major league players mixed in), they certainly won't last very long. Once again, we get another reference to Iguchi and 2005, which was such a fluke thing because KW merely watched video of him from Japan, not ever having personally scouted him.

Here's the question Marty. Look at the Red Sox. How is it possible that a team with so much intense media coverage could have all those things going on around the team and none of it was revealed until after the season? Listen to the hilarious John Henry interviews when he got so angry with the "one-sidedness" and "despicableness" of the Boston news media that he went in to complain, only to give one of the most befuddled interviews in talk radio history. The same interview in which he threw one of the biggest FA signings in history, Carl Crawford, completely under the bus. At least Reinsdorf hasn't done anything like that publicly with Dunn and Rios, even though he certainly has a right to as an owner who's getting zero ROI from those guys...to the point where they're crippling the rest of the team. At least the White Sox organization isn't dumping dirt directly on their former manager....like "insider sources" are by telling about Francona's distractions with marriage problems and painkiller use. Apparently it was okay for the Guillens to dump all over Bobby Jenks though, right? So if you have a $150-175 million payroll like the Red Sox do every year, don't you have a responsibility to know what's going on, somehow? I'm sure the players (Dustin Pedroia covered for the guys by claiming he had no idea what was going on) knew it...but maybe if someone got in Beckett's or Lackey's face the first or second week of September, they could easily have salvaged their season...Tito's job, Epstein's job. I'm more proud of Don Cooper sticking it out with the White Sox and wanting to be a part of the turnaround than Ozzie jumping ship and giving up on his players...if you want to call him a whistleblower, whatever....but I have respect for competent non-corrupt policemen, corporate executives, anyone who's willing to stand up and try to protect the integrity of an institution. That whole "just following orders" and keeping the code of silence really hasn't worked well in history. It just gets used an excuse for expiating the behavior of those who've crossed the line. And Ozzie clearly crossed the line between caring more about his team/organization than himself and his own situation the last 2 seasons. Was Cooper looking out for himself and his family in the process? Sure. But it's not like he couldn't get another job in baseball tomorrow. If you want to spend the next couple of seasons accusing Ventura of being a spy, that's your right...but wouldn't Robin have more incentive to do that with KW (since he clearly couldn't get another job as easily as Cooper)? Still, Robin Ventura's set for life financially....what reason would he possibly have to manage the White Sox if his main directive was to be a spy, with KW as the "JD Edgar Hoover in the skybox" looming above...? Doesn't really make any sense. Was there any pitcher on that staff who would rather have seen Don Cooper than Ozzie go? I don't think so.