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  1. On 10/5/2021 at 12:24 PM, ptatc said:

    The LA Rams will not have a first round pick from 2018 to 2024. That's 6 years without a first round pick. The 2017 first round pick was Goff who they had to give 2 first round picks to the Lions to take him. I would consider this more careless with draft capital.

    Yes, for sure. In my haste of posting, I did neglect to mention Les Snead being in the same boat at Pace.  However, when Snead trades draft picks, he adds Pro Bowl and/or Future Hall of Fame talent with those picks. And the Rams are built to win-now, so it makes a bit more sense to "go for it."

    I get that a 6th rounder isn't likely to amount to much. But the more picks you have, the better chance you have to hit on some picks. And honestly, to Pace's credit, he has a pretty solid track record with late round picks, which is about the only thing he does well.

  2. 54 minutes ago, ShoeLessRob said:

    They just traded a 6th round pick for a Dolphins special teamer.


    I know it’s just a 6th round pick, but with a team with no draft capitol it just shows Pace doesn’t know what the hell he is doing. 

    This is horrendous.  I've never seen a GM so careless about draft capital.  What a joke.  We've already traded away so many picks and we're in salary cap hell.  We need draft picks for depth in the coming 1-2 years.  Even something as low as a 6th round pick is not something we can afford to just give away for a month of work from a league average, non-pro bowl return man.  Just put someone else back there and have them fair catch every kickoff and punt for the next month.  Instead, Pace is acting in a win-now mode for a team that is incredibly mediocre and unlikely to make the playoffs.

  3. 27 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said:

    You would say Trestman had more HC competencies?  100 percent disagree there man, Nagy sucks but Trestman completely lost his locker room and frequently had pressers where he said shit like “I haven’t heard any of that. I didn’t hear all of it. I heard a lot about most of it, but what I did hear, I did not hear any of that.” After giving up 50 points out of the bye 

    Pretty sure he meant Nagy, not Trestman, based on what it says in the rest of that paragraph.  Just a mistype of the name.

    I can't imagine anyone in this world defending Trestman's overall HC competencies.  What a disaster that was.

  4. 18 minutes ago, Chisoxfn said:

    Not sure how they are adding 2 wideouts...but obviously one is a special team player.  

    Since we're only carrying 3 RBs to start the season, I think we can effectively consider the punt returner as what will eventually become the roster spot for the 4th RB (once Cohen is back).

  5. I've watched it at least 15 times... I saw a tweet where someone dubbed the radio call over the TV broadcast, which was pretty sweet, but I can't seem to find it via a quick search.

    I'm still buzzing from last night.  Have never felt this way about a regular season game.  Kudos to MLB.  Now the key is to continue doing things like this, driving interest, and growing the sport.

  6. 3 hours ago, Dick Allen said:

    Another thing to keep in mind about Patrick Williams is he is still a teenager for a couple more weeks.

    Absolutely.  Not that this is something you can count on, but it's another added benefit of taking the youngest player in the draft.  Sometimes guys aren't done growing.  Sounds like he's grown another inch or two this year, based on what they said on the BullsTalk podcast earlier this week.

  7. 12 hours ago, Chisoxfn said:

    It is an overpay - but the way I see it - in the NBA - when you give a 3 year deal - you really are giving a 2 year deal - because the final year is always valuable as an expiring that can be leveraged to facilitate deals.  The money was definitely too much - but I don't see the Bulls doing anything other than operate as an over the cap team the next few years and their blue print is to leverage existing pieces and potential picks to go get stars (presuming this pans out and they are a good team).  So given the term the money probably isn't a huge deal (and if anything maybe paying a bit more here is purposeful because they figure Derozan is one of the pieces they will move in 1-2 years along with other younger chips (or picks) to parlay into a S&T (and/or mid-season move for a better, ideally star player). 

    In a year - even without cap space - if there is a star player who wants to come to join the Bulls - they will be able to operate, just like they did this year as an over the cap team, and orchestrate FA sign and trades for whatever star (if one is there) who wants to join the Bulls.  I think the part people are downplaying is how Derozan the facilitator will help the bench unit out - because at this point you can run a variety of units and really shift the makeup of the team. I feel like Donovan will have a lot of options and defenses will have to really play defense against this offense (after years of basically Lavine and a bunch of chuckers).  

    This.  100%.  DeRozan is still a good player and a 3 year deal is a fantastic length.  Worst case, that contract will be tradeable by next off-season and a great expiring contract the year after.  Also, to your point, it sets us up to have a perfectly tradeable asset/contract that doesn't take away from the core of the team if a star player becomes available.  Hollinger doesn't account for that, but having that kind of flexibility is pretty important in today's NBA with a new star player seemingly available every off-season.

    Hollinger offered some fair criticisms in his article, but come on, fighting for the 8th seed and likely the 11th best team?  That's just dumb.  Also, if Hollinger was better at this job, he'd still be working for an NBA front office instead of The Athletic.  So while I appreciate his insight into the inner workings of front office, I don't take his word as gospel.

  8. 1 minute ago, Balta1701 said:

    Wait, the Bulls sent 3 firsts to Orlando?

    I think he worded it poorly.  I think he maybe meant that we owe the 2023 pick (protected) and if it doesn't convey, they it goes to Orlando in 2024.  Either that, or Marks is just flat out wrong.

  9. Very interesting. I was all-in on DeRozan when it was rumored as Lauri as the key piece. I like Young as a bench player far better than Lauri. And I dislike giving up another first round pick considering we already lost 2 to the Magic. But, if it's lottery protected, not as big of a deal.  As people have mentioned, from a cap perspective, this sets us up to trade for a superstar if one wants to force a trade - but again, we don't have 1st round draft picks as an asset to give up until 2027.  That's far less attractive to any franchise who's trading away a star player.

    Someone mentioned it earlier, but it would be ideal if we S&T'd Lauri for a first round pick to get back some draft capital.

  10. Even if these moves don't pan out, I love it already.  Can you imagine GarPax pulling off a double sign and trade for DeRozan (not that it's occurred; just the idea of doing it), or getting the Pelicans to make a quick decision on Ball so our money is not tied up waiting for them to make a decision?

    It's so refreshing to have a front office with some imagination and a great understanding of the nuances of navigating the salary cap/managing a roster.  The days of simple, narrow thinking are gone.  I love it.

  11. 2 minutes ago, Chisoxfn said:

    Bulls doing a S&T with Houston for THeis - will get a trade exception worth $9M.  I don't exactly know what that means - but basically we can go acquire someone for $9M at this point and trade it for this. Will be curious if the Bulls actually use this cause I would have thought Theis at this price was better than Caruso.  I'm also curious if maybe White is about to get dangled in a move bigger than any of us are thinking (not like there was any smoke before the Caruso news broke).  Bulls could use a real athletic and talented big (as could most teams haha). 

    If we were going to lose Theis, I like doing it this way.  That's a big trade exception that could come in very handy.

  12. Let's gooooo!

    Love Madrigal, but 2nd basemen with no power aren't hard to find.  Plus Hernandez's option will now be picked up for $6M next year, so we have an instant replacement.

    Heuer has potential to be a great reliever and we saw it last year, but worth giving up to get a guy like Kimbrel.  Our bullpen is absolutely ridiculous now.

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  13. 7 hours ago, Chisoxfn said:

    I love the Olympics - needs a thread.  Crazy with Biles now out of the all around competition now too.  Cool to see Ledecky come back after struggling in 200 to crush it in the 1500.  Can't believe having to do 2 events in such short of a time frame (and to come back from that first loss to crush it the next time is huge).  

    Completely agree on Ledecky.  Crazy to see her race in 2 finals so close together, including the 2nd one being 1500m.  15 round-trips laps is unbelievable.  The men's 4x200 relay was disappointing - from 1st to 5th in the last 50m of the 3rd leg, and then never really recovered.

  14. 2 hours ago, bmags said:

    I’d be surprised if he doesn’t stay in college to go to UT where he just transferred but Mizzou had a pitcher Seth Halverson (?) who was a super athletic position player that switched to mound and had big fastball. Could be a fun project. 

    Selfishly I hope he ends up at Tennessee and fits right in as a weekend starter next year.  But yeah, he seems to have great stuff.  Just needs to harness his command, which is a big reason he ended up at UT - he said he liked their plan for him to do that.

  15. 8 minutes ago, Buehrle>Wood said:

    I know nothing here other than reading the profile, but a 19 year old playing Midwestern high school ball doesn't excite me. 

    It's terrible.  He'll be 20 before next season starts.  They basically took a college player again without the benefit of playing college competition.

    He better be underslot allowing us to take a first round talent in the 2nd round.  Otherwise it's bad value.

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  16. Not going to read this entire thread, but I just want to echo what I am guessing tons of others have said: this is a massive organizational failure.  It's not hyperbole in saying Eloy is the worst defensive OF in baseball.  Dude never needs to play in the field again, which we've all been saying for at least a year.  What good is he if he's always getting hurt?  Or worse yet, ends up hurting someone else (Robert) too?  So we have a logjam at DH?  Then trade someone.

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  17. 29 minutes ago, Chisoxfn said:

    Damien Williams was a very logical depth signing for Bears at RB.  

    For sure.  The interesting thing about our off-season is that I actually really like all the smaller signings we've made.  Bringing back Edwards Jr, Bush, and Ifedi.  Jones is good MLB depth. Williams at RB.  Blackmon at DL. Wilkinson as a swing OT with some starting experience.  Those are quality depth signings, but they don't really matter until the QB position is fixed.  And these signings would go over a lot better if we hadn't had to release Fuller to sign Dalton. 

    This is off topic, but I still can't get over Robert Quinn being on the roster - it was an odd signing at the time and a real risk given Quinn has had stretches of bad play in the past and he was on the wrong side of 30.  Think about how much this roster could have been improved without his contract on the books.  That money should have been earmarked to upgrade OT last year or this year.  It just bugs me that our weakest position in 2019 was totally neglected in the 2020 off-season except for bringing in a new OL coach (even though Harry Hiestand is generally known as one of the better OL coaches in football).  We had cap space at the time and a real opportunity to bring in, say, Jack Conklin for less money than we paid Quinn.  Think how much better off our OL would be heading into next year.

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  18. Haven't had a chance to post since the Dalton news became official.  I saw someone pages ago say that all the Pace haters are getting their wish and will be happy with what's happening because the Bears won't be good next year.  At least for me, that's totally wrong.  I'm not happy because we just wasted another year.  We should have blown it all up instead of whatever it is they're doing.

    1) There is no guarantee that Pace gets fired after this year.  I don't trust George at all.  This is feeling like a Cal McNair-Jack Easterby situation without the media fanfare.  I don't know what Pace (and Phillips too) has done to pull the wool over George's eyes, but we're getting screwed because of it.  The fact that they would not address Pace's contract in the presser scares me into thinking he has much more time than we think.  I really hope I'm wrong.

    2) I was adamant about wanting to start the rebuild THIS offseason and that's why I hated the decision to bring back Pace.  So no, even if it things blow up and everyone is fired and we start a rebuild next year, we just wasted a year.  Some people will try to be optimistic and point towards development of young players as reason to watch the games.  I agree with it to an extent and by the time the season rolls around, my dumb brain will start to get excited about football and will still watch their games.  But really, there's only a few young players we can actually be excited to watch develop:. Roquan is already legit, so I don't include him in this, though of course he could continue to get better.  We know he's Pro Bowl caliber.  Kmet, Mooney, Mustipher, Daniels, Johnson, Nichols, whoever we draft this year (assuming Pace doesn't trade away every pick to move up 1 spot and take some player who would have fallen to 20 anyway)... who else?  I guess Vildor and Shelley could fall into that category now that Fuller and Skrine are gone.   It's not like we're loaded with young (age 25 and under) talent.

    On a related note, I love Jaylon Johnson the player.  My problem with him is that he can't stay healthy, and I fear that he never will.  He had multiple shoulder surgeries in college and had another shoulder injury last year - he wasn't on the field when we needed him most.  Do we expect him to all of a sudden stay healthier against much bigger and stronger competition?  I hate to say it, but I don't even count on him.  He'll be a Jason Verrett-type.  Super talented but never finishes the season healthy.

    Worst of all, even if we hire a new GM, I fear nothing will change because of it.  The ultimate problem is George McCaskey.  He just doesn't get it.  When Chris Ballard interviewed with the Bears, he supposedly knocked it out of the park, but proposed a lot of organizational changes that he felt the Bears needed to make.  And that's ultimately why he didn't get the job - George didn't feel like anything needed to change.  And now look at the job he's done with the Colts.  He's made a few mistakes (as does every new GM), but he's learning from them.  Pace has been on the job for almost a decade and still can't figure it out.

    Also,  I'm tired of hearing (usually in the media) about Joey Laine being a cap expert/guru.  No.  Do you want to know what's easy?  Restructuring deals and kicking the can down the road to create cap space until you eventually have to pay the piper and end up in cap hell.  You know what's difficult and actually deserving of being known as a cap guru?  Structuring deals so that you don't end up in that position.

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  19. Andy Dalton and Nick Foles are basically the same QB.  I don't see how adding Dalton would improve the roster, and he'll probably end up costing a lot (~$10M over 1 year) if the Winston and Fitzmagic deals are any indication.  I feel like adding Dalton would be Pace making a move simply to make a move.  He'll spin it to ownership and the fans like he's trying every avenue to find a QB, but we all know Dalton doesn't move the needle.  I'm trying to await judgement until everything is settled, but it is not looking good right now.  I really hope I'm wrong.