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  1. michelangelosmonkey

    Jim Bowden Top 50 Prospect List

    Oh for fuck sake...this is what they wrote... Highest Ceiling: Vaughn Not only is Vaughn the best all-around hitter among first-base prospects, he's also on the short list of the best all-around hitters in the Minors. He could produce a .300 batting average, 30 homers and 80 walks on an annual basis. and let me be clear that would be absolutely nothing like Cody Bellinger, of the Dodgers, or Clay Bellinger of the Yankees, or minor leaguer Cole Bellinger or Orioles shortstop Mark Belanger in any way. Any similarities by Vaughn to actual persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.
  2. michelangelosmonkey

    Jim Bowden Top 50 Prospect List

    It wasn't me...MLB Pipeline said Vaughn was best 1b prospect since Bellinger...maybe best hitting prospect in minors. Just saying Bellingers bat in the middle of that lineup is awe inspiring.
  3. michelangelosmonkey

    Jim Bowden Top 50 Prospect List

    I thought it was clear I meant as a hitter. I wasnt talking about his FWAR...I was talking about OPS of 1.000 in the middle of that order. Its just so exciting....in the last 20 years who was our most exciting hitting prospect? In 2002 we would have been so excited about Collins the hitter...now we've got Moncado, madrigal, Jiminez, Robert and Vaughn, the batting champ and two plus- hitting vets...the potential is amazing.
  4. michelangelosmonkey

    Jim Bowden Top 50 Prospect List

    Soxtalk can really suck. You get a little excited about something you read...you post it and then the howling negatives come out of the woodwork to tell you how wrong and stupid you are. Ok Vaughn isnt Bellinger...hes Frank Thomas 2.0. Better? .300 hitter with 30+ homers and 100 walks hitting in a lineup with 4 other superstars. Im gonna go dream somewhere else.
  5. michelangelosmonkey

    Jim Bowden Top 50 Prospect List

    I'm saying MLB Pipeline said Vaugn=Bellinger...but with 7 years of control at almost no cost.
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    Jim Bowden Top 50 Prospect List

    MLB Pipeline says Vaughn is the highest rated first base prospect since Cody Bellinger. A lineup of Robert, Madrigal, Moncada, Eloy and Cody Bellinger?? Goosebumps. Mazara and Collins could have breakthrough seasons as past top prospects and we wouldn't even notice...and poor Tim Anderson...batting champion ignored. Highest Ceiling: Vaughn Not only is Vaughn the best all-around hitter among first-base prospects, he's also on the short list of the best all-around hitters in the Minors. He could produce a .300 batting average, 30 homers and 80 walks on an annual basis.
  7. michelangelosmonkey

    White Sox Sign Robert to Extension

    But does he really have a low walk rate? In Cuba from age 16-18 he had 600 at bats and had 80 walks and 100 strike outs. Ok it's not American...but it is professional baseball...probably low A level? For comparison sake Jose Abreu 16-18 years in Cuba had 700 at bats, 69 walks and 88 strike outs. Cespedes had 600, 62 and 125; Yasiel Puig had 600, 69 and 88. That looks like he has a better eye than any of those good major league hitters. In the Dominican league at age 19 for the Sox he had 82 at bats with 22 walks and 23 strikeouts...short season and DSL...but still...didn't look like a disaster of a batting eye. At 20 he had the thumb injury most of the year. At 21...ok walk to strike out rate was not good but when you are hitting .330 with 70+ extra base hits...don't take a walk seems good advice.
  8. michelangelosmonkey

    2020 Projection for Moncada from Brooks Baseball/Roto

    Oh no you don't...I'm not getting beaten up by the Collins-is-a-turd crowd in another thread. But thanks...I hadnt noticed. An elite eye combined with plus power is why I was bullish on Moncada in his darkest hours a year ago and why I think we should be more excited about Collins.
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    2020 Projection for Moncada from Brooks Baseball/Roto

    Moncada had a 13% walk rate in the minors and an 11% rate after 800 major league at bats...at 23. Last year his walk rate was 7% I would think pitchers will be more cautious this year and we see 70 walks. BABIP will certainly drop but I should think strikeout rate will likely drop too. .275/.375/.525? With 30 steals.
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    So What Happens to Zack Collins?

    Sorry if I don't have the same slavish belief in the infallibility of scouts as you do. How many top 100 prospects lists did Marcus Semien make? A better argument against Collins the catcher is...why did he catch 85 games two years ago, 70 games in 2018 and then 60 games this year? If the White Sox see potential...why isn't he catching all the damn time. Which I think is a pretty convincing argument. But I've also watched the WS handle him in curious ways. Why did they bring him up for a month in June-july...in a season the Sox were going nowhere and only start him in seven out of thirty games? If they don't see him as a C...why not just announce that and let him hit ? Why did they sign EE? Seems like two possibilities...one, as you and most on here thing...they recognize he's garbage and hope he can be useful as a Josh Phegly sort or two...they are grooming him for something bigger. This year will tell.
  11. michelangelosmonkey

    So What Happens to Zack Collins?

    I bow to your obvious wisdom of Collins and knowledge of the future. I presented a case study...Ted Simmons, who I think is similar to Collins. TS put up 45 WAR in a 9 season stretch almost all of it with offense...his average DWAR over 21 seasons was basically 0. You countered with...what...his 30 bad at bats in June? To state categorically that Collins will not be a future hitting star because of his swing and miss issues (He hit .280 in AAA which is not helped by juiced ball or BB&T) echoes what others here said about Moncada last year at this time. Seems someone said half way through the season that he would NEVER hit above .280 in a season...except, your know, last year. What is one of Moncada's best skills...his elite batters eye, which allowed him to learn to wait for pitches he could hit. If Collins, as a lefty, can hit .275 in the majors and walk 100 times...and hit 30 homers...and be a slightly below average defensive catcher...he will be a 10 time all star. Obviously that is his ceiling. I am just bothered by the suggestion his ceiling is back up catcher and pinch hitter.
  12. michelangelosmonkey

    So What Happens to Zack Collins?

    I don't think anyone seriously thinks Collins is a better prospect than Robert. Ted Simmons had a number of 5+ WAR seasons and ended up with 50+ WAR for his career...Ken Griffey Jr had a number of 9+ War season and ended up with 80+ WAR. I think the point is Collins has enormous potential if he's a catcher and while we should be excited about him so many on here (wasting our time on a second tier prospect) just think he's garbage based on Klaw's trashing (also trashed Sale) and 50 bad at bats to start his career (Robin Ventura's 56 war career began with 0-50). For the White Sox to be a dynasty having a catcher putting up 5 WAR a year for five years will be useful.
  13. michelangelosmonkey

    So What Happens to Zack Collins?

    I dont understand coming to a thread titled "so what happens to Zack Collins" and then wondering why people are commenting on Zack Collins.
  14. michelangelosmonkey

    So What Happens to Zack Collins?

    I don't think he's the caliber of prospect you think he is. A juiced ball doesn't help his batting average...and he hit .285 in AAA...that is the one skill everyone says he lacks offensively. And everything else at every level has been great. I never said Collins was going to be a 6 WAR player...but it's not impossible (again Ted Simmons). What we know for sure is Collins was a top 10 pick in the draft, led all of college in walks, led all the minor leagues in walks and he's 24 and a lefty and catches. We know that a keen batting eye translates positively, eventually, in the majors and power translates. You state EE was "on pace"...well there was a reason he didn't play 162 games...old gets hurt...old declines. Remember Seattle traded him to the Yankees for a bucket of balls and the Yankees let him walk this off season over money. I'm not going to shoot myself over the EE signing. I just find it curious given their other moves. To me it is as if Dane Dunning hadn't gotten hurt last year and had a stellar year in AAA and then we signed Gio Gonzalez as our fifth starter instead of risking DD starting because we are in our window.
  15. michelangelosmonkey

    So What Happens to Zack Collins?

    And CF...and 2B...and a couple of the starting pitchers. They are making calculated gambles that the young guys will become stars. Even Mazara is an upside gamble that I love. But with Collins they didn't roll the dice (at DH not at catcher as I completely agree with the idea of having experienced catcher with the young pitching staff). So if one is reading the tea leaves...seems either they will make a trade with him as the centerpiece...or they will develop him to be their catcher of the future. As for the AAA talk...if the goal is to make him an MLB catcher I think sitting and learning with constant coaching and tutelage is better than repetition at a level he's mastered (hitting wise).
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