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The 22' Reds finished 62-100 so the Sox would need to go 59-78 the rest of the way to be able to match that. I am not seeing it. We don't even have as much talent as that team had.

Yeah, the return we got for Cease is light-years better. Thank god they didn't make that deal.

I don't understand how its this bad. Its almost impossible to be this bad. And its not even like they are just not catching breaks or getting unlucky. They are truly awful everywhere. Even if all you care about is saving money, you simply can't allow this to continue. You have to fire this manager. This team isn't just bad, they are putrid and have taken major steps back everywhere.

Well again, there is no way that they play .500 from here on out so you can go ahead an pen in 100 losses. The question becomes how many more than 100 does that grow. I don't understand how anyone could have thought that this team would be better than last season, they literally downgraded everywhere.

Only 1 person voted that they would be historically bad in the "How many wins" poll. Majority of the board had this pegged as a 100 loss team though.

I would have rather kept Vaughn in LF and resigned Abreu for 3 years at 19 million per season than be stuck with Benintendi for the next 3 years AFTER this one.

I find it hard to believe too, however, there is zero chance these guys play anywhere close to .500 ball the rest of the way so its going to be close.

I see Crochet was terrible again, how was his velocity?

Yeah, that's most likely what it is....

His last two starts have been pretty awful though. Hes also started 3 of our 8 shutouts....

No, no we are not. Its almost like he is wearing out already. Im shocked I tell you. IP this season each start... 6, 7, 5, 4, 3 with less effectiveness each start. I wonder what the issue is....

This organization is so behind the times its insane. Who is scouting for this franchise? Is there even any?

Please don't win, I don't want to make a thread tomorrow. Benintendi batting 5th, again, sigh. Noted contact hitter Gavin Sheets manning the 2 hole. Anyone else notice Crochets ERA is approaching 6 now?? YIKES!

I don't get it. If you don't want to pay the price to sign these high dollar fee agents then invest your money into scouting and development. At least that way you can hopefully produce your own star players and just keep that cycle going. We seemingly like to live in the middle ground of behind the times in scouting/development and only shelling out money for mid tier free agents who wont move the needle. Also, continually hiring unqualified alumni to lead your team/organization.

The ump blew the strike 3 call on Santana then Benintendi is just terrible otherwise this inning would have been over a few mins ago.

How about stop batting Benintendi 5th and 6th. He needs to be 8th or 9th. I would go Mendick Fletcher Jimenez DeJong Sheets Vaughn Maldonado Benintendi Lopez

My advice to anyone here with a young kid they want to put in baseball is to have them learn to play catcher. It is the most important position at this age. Any kid that gets to first you might as well just let them go straight to third. Its impossible to throw them out stealing second because none of the pitchers can hold a runner and they all have slow deliveries. If you can get someone to block the ball and be able to make throws from catcher the third on those steal attempts it literally will eliminate multiple runs per game. My kid unfortunately is just scared of the ball so I can not get him to drop down and block the ball but man we have nailed a handful of runners at third that get too big of a lead and throwing straight from catcher to third to pick them off. If you can get your kid to block the ball and the arm is good, its pure gold for kid pitch little league. I would take someone like that over any other type of player.

It feels like Espada turned them down. Not sure if that was ever verified.

Yeah I made sure to explain to them before game started that just because your in RF doesn't mean you aren't good. Everyone has something to do on every play and each position is just as important as each other. That of course was just coach speak and I stuck the worst kid in RF straight away. Had to shuffle things a little bit when they were getting too much action.

I know hiring someone from a winning organization isn't fool proof, but damn would it be nice to at least turn over that rock once in a while.

I can recall one flyball going out to left field so far this season through 10 games. There have been about 5-6 out to right. Even the ground balls either go up the middle or to 2nd base. Everyone at this age is swinging late on 45-55 MPH pitches from 45 feet away.

As someone who has been coaching 11-13 year olds for about 2 years now, this is a misconception. The majority of the balls I see get hit to RF because the majority of these kids all swing late. I use to think with the same mindset of stick the worst kid in RF but that was quickly proving to be costly. At least for the 11 year olds and up range.

Here's whats real, this team absolutely sucks and 99% of the people on this board have had enough. Why is your expectation to come in and poke the bear and not get any kind of kickback for it? Then you shame all the people for rightfully being pissed about whats going on. Of course you are going catch a lot of strays now.

I am pretty sure that no one here is having their personal life's ruined by the White Sox embarrassing and pathetic start to this season. Its probably because they can come here and b**** about it and let off steam instead of in their personal life's. There was really no reason at all the have a wait and see approach to this, every move they made has been terrible. It was easy to see the writing on the wall from a mile away. They were the worst team in spring training when other teams weren't even playing regulars. They have carried that momentum into literally the worst start imaginable. The pitching stinks, as expected. The hitting stinks, as expected. The same guys who get hurt every year are hurt again, as expected. There was literally nothing about this off-season that should have warranted a wait and see approach. Your favorite team said they couldn't afford to waste a year and were not going to rebuild. They lied to your face. Am I going to go and take it out on my wife and kids? No. Am I going to come on here and b**** about it with the rest of my fellow fans who are equally as pissed about this sad sack franchise, you betcha.

Im not sure I would consider people complaining about the White Sox shitty product on a White Sox message board rage-weeping but I guess you can interpret it however you like.