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5 hours ago, SoxAce said:
Ok so Hansen..
DP, GO, single, single, walk, DP.
I got to watch the Barons tonight via stream. First time I've watched Hansen. The first batter he faced he piped in two fastballs for strikes, the second one getting an inning-ending double play (he entered in the middle of the inning after Battenfield was taken out). Man, those were eye-popping. Then it started to fall off the rails. The two singles were actually a little cheap. A bloop and a roller that found a hole. No one was hitting anything hard. That's partially due to his stuff being too good for these guys and his command being so all over the place that no one has any clue where the ball is gonna be. His offspeed pitch has great movement, but he buried so many in the dirt.
I wouldn't call it Ankiel levels of bad, but it was tough to watch because the stuff was so obviously there. For that reason alone, I wouldn't want to bail on him any time soon. I also probably wouldn't bet on him turning into an MLB starter liked we hoped after 2017.
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I still just think Rutherford is Ryan Sweeney all over again. Sweeney was a good MLB fourth OFer, and nothing more. Sweeney went to Winston-Salem at 19, less than a year after getting drafted out of high school, and had a miserable start. He bounced back to hit .283, but had a sub .100 ISO, just like Rutherford. Sweeney's career MLB line was .276/.333/.380. I wouldn't be shocked if Rutherford did that, and I also wouldn't be overly thrilled with that. He'd be better than the likes of Tilson and Cordell and that's about it.
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Cam Simmons is off to a nice start with Great Falls. I'd like to see Dawkins move up to W-S and Simmons move up to Kanny before the year ends. He has a nice under the radar profile, but he's 22. Let's push him a bit.
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3 hours ago, DirtySox said:
I too haven't seen much of his change-up. But when he does use it I've noticed some gnarly, silly looking hacks at it.
That's why I asked. If it's effective, why aren't we seeing it more? Are they trying to get him to lean on his fastball more because he needs to work on repeating his mechanics with it? His curve is so pretty and fools guys, but he could have used the change of pace to put a few more guys away tonight.
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Not saying Cease was incredible, but I swear I've never seen so many groundball hits. His BABIP tonight was 9/17 and maybe only 3 or 4 sharp hits. I'm actually more encouraged by today's start. The last few were somewhat worrying. This was progress.
Anybody know anything about Cease's changeup? I didn't see much of it tonight, but he threw two wicked ones in his last inning. At least I think they were changeups. 83 MPH that didn't move like his curve.
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Just now, fathom said:
Cease is giving the Sox no reason to call him up right now.
Still say he looks much better than his last couple starts, but yeah, he's not ready.
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Cease looks better today. 4 strikeouts, no walks through 2 innings.
He has given up 4 hits and two runs, but 3 of the hits were a bit unlucky. A grounder up the middle in the first. A totally sawed off double in the second where the guy was fooled but flared something just inside the foul line. The ball didn't even make it out of the infield dirt, but went for two bases. He did fall behind one batter and grooved a 3-1 fastball for a double that bounced off the wall. The fourth hit was a roller that found a hole in the infield.
He's been ahead of most everyone and has only been hit hard once or twice. Not the best I've seen him look, but better than his recent outings for sure.
Let's see how he looks in the later innings.
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This also makes me wonder if Basabe's injury from last night isn't short-term.
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Codi Heuer hype train. Reaches AA barely over a year after being drafted.
Happy to see Mercedes and Kubat get moved up. Might as well push these guys and see what they can do. Mercedes has hit at damn near every level.
Surprised Dawkins didn't get moved up, but that might still be coming soon.
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I'm not that worried. His stuff is still there. His velocity is still there. His fastball command has escaped him the past couple starts. I'd rather see him go through this weird funk in the minors, fix it and come up with confidence when he reaches the majors. Kopech had a more extended, more worrying funk in AAA before going on a dominant stretch. I don't think Cease is hurt and I don't think he has the yips or anything (like Hansen possibly does), so I think he'll be fine.
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5 hours ago, BamaDoc said:
Yep and at 17yo 165lbs. Also like SO=W
I wouldn't put any stock into walk rates in the DSL. Some of the pitching is incredibly wild. Those walk rates don't even translate to the AZL very well.
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1 hour ago, ChiSoxJon said:
Which ASGs are tonight?
AA, A+ and A are all tomorrow. HR derbys tonight. Nothing as far as Sox prospects. Only the Southern League has a HR derby and none of the White Sox guys are in it. Would have been cool to see what Robert could do.
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Are AZL games an hour earlier this year? They look like 8 CT starts this season as opposed to 9.
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1 hour ago, bmags said:
Pretty boring opening weekend for Great Falls.
A lot of older pitchers and not ready hitters. It's probably gonna be a rough team.
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That's Bush's 5th homer, but he's only hitting .199. He's a high school draft pick a year removed from high school and in Low A. Reminds me of Chris Carter, but Carter went to Great Falls when summer ball started whereas they're sticking with Bush.
Carter as a 19-year-old in Kanny: .130/.231/.261, 9.62 BB%, 32.7 K% in 52 PA before they sent him to extended
The next year in Kanny: .291/.383/.522 and then he got traded to Oakland and mashed in their minors before a productive big league career.
Micker Adolfo also reached Kanny at 19, but wasn't a draft pick and spent two years in the AZL before he went to Kanny. Either way, his line there was .219/.269/.340. He K'd 33.2% of the time.
Chris Young was another high school pick with raw power and a high strikeout rate, but he didn't reach Kanny until 20.
The flip side is guys like Trayce Thompson (although Thompson at least made the bigs for a couple years) and Keon Barnum held their own in Kanny at 19 as well.
My point is Bush is doing just fine. Showing enough potential at a very high level for his age. He definitely has to improve and refine his swing, but the power is very real.
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6 hours ago, DirtySox said:
So watching Pilkington for the first time. He works super fast. Gets it and throws it. Lots of batters stepping out to try and slow him down. Lots of time being called. Fastball doesn't look like anything special. Throws his slider and change-up often. Uses the whole repertoire. Is in and out, up and down. Curious what the fastball is at. He's definitely not blowing it by people.
That was the book on Pilkington, wasn't it? He had a good fastball as a soph in college and then lost velocity, thus him slipping out of the first round. Still liking what I'm seeing, especially if there still might be some hidden/lost velocity somewhere in there.
3 hours ago, DirtySox said:Robert walk. Nice at bat. Finally laid off all the breaking crap out of the zone.
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2 hours ago, DirtySox said:
The fastball command has been an issue so far. The curve has looked pretty good.
I didn't see any of tonight's start, but this is exactly how I would describe his last two outings. He got away with it the first of those two, but it wasn't pretty. The curve is so pretty.
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5 hours ago, DirtySox said:
Bush with 2 walks today and a strikeout. If I had to describe his swing in one word, it would be "violent."
Yeah, I've only seen one game, but that is definitely what I noticed too. I was amazed he was able to look decent despite that. He is somewhat patient, but that really looks like an all or nothing swing.
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E3 is a bit weird with Sony not there and EA not really doing a press conference, but still some cool stuff.
For one, this:
And this looks cool, although I have no idea what it is:
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No games got completed tonight. All four eventually rained out. I can't remember the last time that happened. Maybe a hurricane? Usually Birmingham is far enough away from that stuff though. Then you factor in the rookie ball teams and it's damn near possible once they get started.
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1 hour ago, soxfan49 said:
No
I'm obviously in no way serious.
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Conspiracy theory: Robert is actually hurt, but they put him in the lineup because they knew it would get rained out and could use that to keep the injury under wraps haha
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3 hours ago, ptatc said:
Not until Collins moves up.
Yeah, I should have addressed that. I guess that makes sense, but I'm viewing Mercedes as a DH anyway. Still plenty of ABs to go around.
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3 hours ago, MyNamesRod said:
Can’t wait til Yermin is DHing for us on the South Side 😁
I'm not sure how serious this is, but why hasn't he moved up? Are the White Sox sticking with the chance that he can play catcher? He is dominating AA and is 26. Might as well see what you have and push him to AAA, right?
6/25 Games
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This is undeniably true, but look at what Luis Gonzalez did last year in W-S: .313/.376/.504, 9.4 BB%, 16 K%
Walker: .268/.347/.436, 10.8 BB%, 16.2 K%
They both joined W-S after midseason promotions in their first full seasons of pro ball and were 22. I definitely have Walker above Gonzalez right now, but I'm a bit scarred by W-S performance after seeing everyone fall on their face in AA this year.