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  1. 3 minutes ago, bmags said:

    Tyler Osik, son of former big league catcher Keith Osik, from UCF. Looks like he straight up rakes.

    He's my vote for Great Falls bat we get way too excited about before it turns into a pumpkin the next year:

    https://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/shoreham-wading-river-s-tyler-osik-once-bullied-he-built-himself-into-a-mlb-prospect-1.18901301

    https://d1baseball.com/player/y0Jyo50e/tyler-osik/

    Kinda sad story above.

    Yeah, nice profile with his bat, but I think the Tommy John he had in 2016 is why he is listed as a first baseman. Definitely agree that he profiles well for rookie ball.

  2. 13 minutes ago, mqr said:

    He’s making a case to be called up, like, yesterday. It’s insane what he’s doing. 

    His wRC+ would have to be pushing 200 if it were Park adjusted in the minors

    He is actually hitting much better in Birmingham as opposed to on the road.

    .382/.417/.632 in Bham

    .283/.345/.491 on the road

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  3. 3 minutes ago, soxfan49 said:

    I think his point is that had he needed the surgery while still in AAA, he would've gotten it and not blown a year of service time...right?

    Obviously that's his point, but that's revisionist history. He was ready. An injury can happen at any time. When the guy is capable of giving you MLB-caliber innings, you take them. Projecting 7 years out for pitchers is so difficult because of the high risk of significant injury.

  4. 3 hours ago, ChiSox59 said:

    They already completely screwed the pooch on Kopech (obviously a little different being a pitcher), but they cannot afford another massive fuck up like that.  

    His injury is exactly why you don't play the service time game with pitchers. Injuries happen so you want to get them when they are ready.

  5. 36 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said:

    289 BA, 353 OBP, 728 OPS, 23 SBs in 71 A+ games. Combine that with outstanding defense and I’m not sure why so many Sox fans are so down on him.

    If he replicates those numbers in the majors, everyone is thrilled. The worry is that he struggles to maintain those numbers as he moves up the levels. You want to see some level of domination because it obviously gets harder as you move up.

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  6. 13 minutes ago, bighurt4life said:

    Excellent D, baserunning, contact skills and plate discipline. The ONLY thing he isn’t doing right now is hitting for power. And that isn’t much of a surprise 

    His walk rate is only OK and ideally you'd like to see the batting average/on-base higher if he's not going to hit for power. I'm not saying he's been doing poorly, just that I want to see more before any rush to promote him.

  7. 5 minutes ago, ptatc said:

    I'm not sure he'll struggle as some of the others have at Birmingham.  That place saps all HRs and makes the hitters change. He doesn't try for the HR anyway so it plays to his game.

    I wouldn't expect him to struggle in the same way many of the other prospects have, but it's still a level up for a guy who has only been OK in High-A. Outside of his extremely low strikeout rate, there's nothing about his High-A performance that screams it's time for a promotion.

  8. 2 hours ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said:

    Once Madrigal gets that BA up to 290 or so I hope they promote him to Birmingham. Not much left for him to prove in Winston Salem. No he hasn’t hit for power but he has a BA of 290 and OBP of 350 with 20 stolen bases and just 11 strikeouts in 69 games at WS between last year and this year. 

    I'm not sure I would want him in AA until at least the midseason all-star break down there. Even then, I want sustained success. The concept of rushing him I think goes away when you're seeing the clear weaknesses in his offensive game. Moving him to AA, where he's likely to struggle out of the gate, isn't the best environment for him to make adjustments to his swing and approach.

    I wonder if he will end up like Whit Merrifield as a bit of a late bloomer because of his approach.

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  9. 2 hours ago, zisk said:

    Seems like his command is getting back to normal. Hansen  outings are rounding into shape as well. It's still possible the Sox will have the

    best pitching in the league in 2021. Add Dunning, Cease and Kopech to these 2 guys and pray for a little good health.

    Both guys have walked way too many in AA. Hansen more than Burdi. The strikeout stuff is there, but they will have to improve their command. I feel like both guys are so fragile right now.

  10. 2 minutes ago, mqr said:

    I’m talking about September 2020 being absurd. If he spends a brief time in 2020 in the minors then so be it, but September 2020 would tell you something bad happened at this point, not what they should be aiming for like the poster we replied to said.

    The end of 2020 would have been reasonable before this year, but Luis has greatly shortened the timeline. 

    Oh yeah, I had a hard time understanding that previous post ha. It looks like service time will dictate when Robert comes up more than anything else. I'm honestly starting to believe he will end up being a more valuable player than Eloy too. Solid defender, plus speed. He will be valuable to the team without destroying the ball. Eloy is a much more well-rounded hitter, but Robert is a much more well-rounded player. Very cool to have both.

  11. 2 hours ago, mqr said:

    Sorry Luis I know you've you've been making everyone else look bad in the minors for a calendar year, but we need to keep you down until september for....reasons

    I know the Eloy situation was frustrating from a patience perspective, but there's no way Robert would be able to reach that level. Eloy entered 2018 with 18 games at a .956 OPS in AA under his belt. Robert didn't reach AA until May of this year. Even if he mashes in Birmingham, they're probably going to give him at least two months there. That would mean he would have only two months left in the season in AAA. There's nothing outrageous about having a guy spend two months at a level. Honestly, September is a reasonable best-case scenario target if the White Sox don't want play the service time game.

  12. 18 minutes ago, BamaDoc said:

    Kubat 26 yo lhp.  Third start at AA.  All seven innings.  gives up first run so   21ip 14h 1r 0w 17k.  Could we get some info on his stuff?  Could we pretty please have a late bloomer on our hands who becomes something?

    I watched his start on milb.tv today so I have no idea on velo. Nothing is straight. Has a bit of a leg hitch in his delivery that seemed to fool hitters. He pounded the zone, mostly kept the ball low. He made some hitters look really bad in the first 3-4 innings and then appeared to tire in the last few. He got behind more batters, got fewer whiffs and was giving up more solid contact towards the end. His curve has good movement. I could see him being a solid lefty reliever.

    He just got promoted to AA so I don't know that the Sox will be in a hurry to move him again, but I would like to see him try his stuff in a hitters' environment in AAA just to see if there's anything there.

  13. 29 minutes ago, justBLAZE said:

    Fine? Need him to DOMINATE

    I assume this is sarcasm, but I'll respond anyway.

    People were complaining about him striking out too much (and to some extent that he wasn't walking much) when he was destroying the ball for Winston-Salem. His approach seems to have changed based on early numbers in Birmingham. He has more walks with Birmingham (5) than he had in about twice as many PA with W-S (4). His K rate is much lower (16.3% vs. 23.8%) in AA. We're obviously dealing with a small sample size, but it's a good sign that he is improving in some ways while the other numbers aren't coming as easily as they did in A ball.

    I understand looking at box scores everyday and getting caught up in a small slump and noticing batting average because it's visible in every box. Madrigal I get worried about, but Robert will be a good player. Maybe he has a shot to be a great one, too.

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  14. Bryce Bush has an OPS over 1.000 since April 22. If he sustains anything like that for two more months, he's probably a top 10 prospect in the system for me. That also might be an indictment on how the 8-20 group has performed so far this season.

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  15. 36 minutes ago, OneDog847 said:

    How do Vaughn's numbers at Cal compare to the Big Hurt's at Auburn? 

    Without writing them out side-by-side, more or less similar. Frank had a better freshman year, Vaughn had a better sophomore year. Frank's junior year is currently a tick ahead.

  16. 3 hours ago, bmags said:

    It's hard. 

    For me its

    1. Rutschman 

     

    2. Witt Jr.

     

    Then there's this mix of guys where I'd be "fine" with them. Vaughn, Abrams, Bleday, Bishop - I' be reasonably excited to see any of them but there is also a bit of trust needed in our front office I dont have.

    But I don't see any as specifically so much better than any other that its an indictment. 

    But, yeah, Vaughn has to rake so much to be valuable. If that dude struggles at all in the minors its going to be a huge *gulp*

    I get the reservations on Vaughn due to position, but saying a guy who has only ever raked has to continue raking to be valuable is fine. His hitting profile is impeccable. Obviously, I'd prefer to have Rutschman, but that would be wild if he falls to 3. The bottom line is, as long as the White Sox don't go off the consensus board they're getting a stud prospect at 3. And in all likelihood, someone with a higher upside than Madrigal on top of that.

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  17. 25 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

    Then either they shouldn't be promoting him until he's moved back to starting or they shouldn't be planning to move him to starting at all. If he's a permanent reliever, say so. If he's going to be moving back to starting, now that you moved him up, it's time.

    I think regardless of any of that, he was just too dominant for High-A. Yeah, he still had a high walk rate, but he struck out nearly half the batters he faced and gave up one hit. The batters weren't challenging him. I understand you want a low stress environment for him to work on throwing strikes and repeating his delivery, but there is a limit to that given the numbers he was putting up.

  18. 4 hours ago, SoxAce said:

    Bush OPS nearing .700 which is outstanding considering his horrid start. His development down there is one of the bright spots so far this year. 

    Considering the horrid start and that he is 19 in Low-A, I'd take an OPS over .700 at the end of the year. He also had an interesting postgame interview tonight.

    "I struggled in the beginning of the season. I couldn't see very well. I got my vision back. I'm seeing the ball very good right now."

    I'm not sure if this was literally what he meant, or he meant in the baseball sense, but "I couldn't see very well. I got my vision back" is interesting. If it was something as simple as that, maybe that start was an aberration. Either way, I'm calling his play a big win so far this season.

     

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  19. 1 hour ago, chitownsportsfan said:

    I know it works better with home runs than doubles.  If he hits 290-310 at the MLB level and goes 300/350/430 with good defense at 2B it won't really matter but that's a long way off.

    May need to bump the OBP projection if he hits .300. Madrigal has been walking more lately. He's at 9 in 98 PA, which still isn't elite, but is notable improvement in that area. His contact rate remains insanely good and it's still just the first month of his first full pro season. He's not polished, but he is showing a profile of a productive player with further improvement. That's every prospect in the minors, otherwise they'd be in the majors or wouldn't be considered a prospect.

  20. 4 hours ago, ron883 said:

    Bush triple and a walk. Been DHing a lot lately, though.

    He's not exactly killing it, but he's definitely playing much better the last week or so. Maybe they can get away with letting him play through it.

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