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http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/col_imre...?intid=38154176 Imrem gets it right.

http://www.suntimes.com/output/mariotti/cst-spt-jay16.html Positive article, but as usual, he has plenty of knocks. I find it funny that the Sun Times ran an article yesterday about the "Us vs. Them" campaign and pointed out that it's pretty much a first in professional sports. Yet Mariotti states that, "With so many in-house positives to trumpet, he [brooks Boyer] istead pokes fun at the Cubs with the predictable us-versus-them campaign. ". So was it predictable? Steff has said that the Southpaw idea had nothing to do with Brooks, yet Mariotti says that it was Brooks' pet project? He says to capitalize on guys like CLee and Big Frank instead of whining about media exposure and worrying about the other team. I say he's wrong. The campaign is built around the slogan "Sox Pride". When I've got pride in something I try to let other people know about it. If I take pride in enjoying a particular CD, I'm going to tell my buddy why he needs to check it out too, why it's BETTER than what he's listening to. We've played better than the sCrUBS for years, we've consistently been in the pennant race for years, and yet this is still a sCrUBS town. We've had marketing campaigns touting the players for years and it's still a sCrUBS town. I'm happy that we're going a different direction and I think it's great that this is getting under so many sCrUB fans skin.

I live out of town so I can't attend games which is probably the biggest part of being a fan, but to me doesn't necessarily indicate pride. I voted for trying to know everything about the Sox. There's nothing more annoying than a "fan" of a team that doesn't know anything about their team. Any real "fan" should be able to name all 25 players on the roster, all the coaches, know key statistics, and understand the game of baseball. That's Sox pride, loving this team to the point where it can dictate your mood, sitting at the game or in front of the tube and dropping hella knowledge on a less knowledgable fan. I guess all kinds of folks can go to games, wear their Sox gear, or be a white sox "fan", but to have pride in your team you have to know your team.

Man, I'm in the same shoes. I'm really not to fond of Cliff Politte being thrust into the RH setup role. He's almost as scary to watch as Koch and will not do the trick if we plan on going anywhere in the playoffs.

I have the dude in one of my fantasy leagues. He's a setup man who was still pitching setup less than a week ago. I don't see how he's going to be stretched enough to even go 4 innings. He apparently does have very good stuff though, as is evidenced by his relief #'s. We need to make him throw a ton of pitches early and wear their bp thin for the rest of the series.

The federal government has no business telling anyone who they can and cannot marry. The federal government has no business telling a private property owner who he can lease his property to. The federal government has no business telling a private company who they can and cannot hire. Federal tax money should not be spent on immunizations. This should be handled by state governments. DDT should indeed be banned by our federal government because it poses a direct and serious threat to the well-being of US citizens. The federal government should not send Oregonian tax money to Iowa to help with flooding. This is an unconstitutional use of federal tax money. Free trade is free trade. Perhaps if it weren't for all the f***ing unions in this nation we wouldn't have so many problems with jobs moving overseas. Protectionist actions, like those taken by GWB on behalf of the steel unions, lead to higher prices for all Americans and don't do s*** to save jobs. The Interstate Highway System should be funded by the federal government being it aids interstate commerce. Roads belonging to just one state should be paid for out of that one state's revenues. Again, Oregonians shouldn't have to pay for a new Main Street in Bumf***, Vermont. The federal government should never overrule a local or state government law unless the law is causing personal harm to the rest of the union. If Bumf***, Arkansas wants to outlaw interacial marriages, then that is their right to do so. If you don't like it Tex, guess what, you've the freedom to move your ass to a town that does allow it. Perhaps the state could get involved, but is WELL outside the powers enumerated to Washinton in the CONSTITUTION. Same with the drug war. Californians have repeatedly passed medical marijuana laws but the feds have repeatedly stormed medicinal marijuana growers. It's bulls*** and unconstitutional. Nuke hit it on the head earlier, true conservativism yearns for a return to our constitutional republic and aren't whipping boys to the Religious Right. Washington is entirely too bloated, too intrusive, and too busy trying to turn this nation into a true democracy. The majority of republicans are just as f***ing bad as the f***ing piece of s*** democrats. Atleast the republicans can claim some sense of fiscal conservativism, but the gap is becoming more narrow each election. We're heading down a road of popular opinions dictating law, restricting freedoms. You know what the absolute greatest gauge of freedom is??? When 98% of the country is pissed off about what the other 2% are doing, freedom is accomplished.

This kid must have scared the s*** out of whoever was batting. That's gotta be one of the funnier scouting summaries I've ever read. Nice summary Jas, great to hear your opinions and evaluations.

So is Red Hook going to start having a wider distribution now that they're under Anheuser? I can't get it down here in OK and it pisses me off, I aboslutely LOVE their Nut Brown Ale mmmmmmm. And another line of NW beers that I really enjoy is Full Sail. My favorite brew of theirs is the Full Sail Ale, really good stuff.

I think you're overestimating the value of a rent-a-player. There's no way Garcia is worth a top prospect out of any organization. Look at all of last year's deals for 1/2 season FAs and you won't find a single impact player traded in return. Rowand/Rauch seems like an extremely reasonable offer, if not too much. SEA just wants to dump the salary and get more than a draft pick.

If you develop the talent and then the talent prices himself out of your market then you aren't operating as a "small time" org, you're operating as an efficient org. I will tell you right now that I will be PISSED if the sox sign Maggs for over $14M a year. I know this has been rehashed plenty on this board but it's articles like this that put the franchise in a hole. You're damned if you do commit 20% of your payroll to one player who doesn't deserve it and you're damned if you don't because the media has been trying to convince the casual fan that if the Sox don't pay Maggs whatever he wants then the Sox aren't showing a commitment to their fans. The media is really hurting this franchise with all of this Maggs signing talk. Now if Maggs asked for fair market value, which many on this board believe to be about the same as I think, about $11-12M per season, and the Sox don't sign him, then yes, they aren't committed to winning and they will be operating as a "small time" org. There's a big difference between greed and sound operating.

I like the fact KW is supposedly targeting young, cheap studly pitchers. I really don't care if it costs us a couple of top prospects. The main reason I like a deal like this would be the fact that KW is trying to not just win the ALC this season but would be trying to set us up for a nice little 2-3 year run. That's the kind of general managing I love.

I agree with ya Aboz. I can understand not wanting to use up options on the likes of Borchard and Reed but they're going to be given atleast a week of fulltime play. If they can hit at all then you keep them up and send Rowand or Crede down and keep either of them in CF/RF. I can't think of a much better opportunity to see if either of them can make an impact on this team over the course of the season. We just lost one of, if not the best, bats in our lineup for another week or two, we can't just plug in AAAA players and expect to win.

Not to mention my fantasy team :banghead

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/news/mlb...r2004&fext=.jsp You gotta be f***ing kidding me...Nomar??? Giles and Grudzielanik??? Giambi???? NL is much worse than the AL, but both are miserable. They need to take voting out of the hands of the fans.

If I wanted power pitcher I'd go after Big Unit. Freddy Garcia is not the answer.

I think we'll have to disagree there. In 17 years Glavine has only had 5 years with an ERA over 4 and has never allowed more than 30HRs in a season. Not to mention the huge amount of postseason experience he's had (194IP). He didn't pitch great last season, but he didn't exactly pitch poorly either. Looked more like an off year considering he was 18-11 with a 2.96ERA in 2002. Garcia on the other hand has 3 seasons with an ERA over 4.00 in just 5 years of pitching. He's allowed more than 30HRs twice in that 5 year span, this should be a concern considering the Cell is a hitter's park. Garcia has only pitched 34 innings of postseason ball. Glavine would have a tremendous impact on Buehrle and Schoe, showing them the ropes. Freddy Garcia wouldn't help anyone on our staff.

I don't want to see Kenny get a 5th starter...I want to see Kenny get a #1 or #2. We can't count on our current staff to pitch at the level they have all season long. We need to go all out and get a stud, regardless of price. If we end up with a Kris Benson or Odalis Perez I will be extremely disappointed.

Agreed, those are the two that would take us to the promised land.

Does Adkins even have 3 pitches? Even if he can confidently throw 3 pitches that really isn't enough to be a successful starter, atleast IMO.

We've all heard all the talk about Jeremy Reed and how he is our #1 prospect. Seems that after an absolutely stunning season last year he may be coming down to earth a bit. So, my question aimed at those of you who know our farm system really well, is Reed really #1? If you could get a Beltran or Big Unit at the cost of either Sweeney, Anderson, or Reed which would you send? Considering our depth in OF prospects do you feel that this is a strength that we must deal from to put us over the top this season? Are all 3 "can't miss" prospects?

Still no Maggs?

I think when Ozzie said that Joe reminded him of Ventura Ozzie meant it, and is giving Joe the same courtesy Ventura was given when he was struggling. I don't agree with it, but I don't see things changing.

Yeah, the Rangers' FSN gun blinked a bright red 101mph. I doubt he got it up there though, 98 I would believe. Either way, looks like he's starting to get it back. Looked to me like that last batter he was just throwing fb after fb with the exception of a slider, challenging the guy, just like the Koch of old.

That poll pretty much sums up why it sucks that MLB "fans" get to pick the starting All-Stars.

Phish had more talent with their instruments than the Grateful Dead ever dreamt about. Whether you like the band or not I can't imagine someone listening to a 3 hour live show and not be awed by their talent....not lyrics, but talent.