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  1. lostfan

    White Sox Acquire Nick Swisher from Athletics

    QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 4, 2008 -> 06:27 PM) Some folks feel that OBP is king when it comes to leadoff hitting. Depends on your perspective. Swisher provides power, but this lineup is already pretty well powered up in the middle. Since everyone else is doing it, here would be my lineup... Cabrera, SS Swisher, CF Thome, DH Konerko, 1B Dye, RF Pierzynski, C Fields, 3B Quentin, LF Richar, 2B While I agree with that mentality, the OBP of Cabrera isn't exactly a liability even if he's a better #2 hitter. You still have all the OBP in the world with Swisher in the 2 hole, I mean to have a guy who could potentially get on at a .400 clip (and 30 HR potential to boot) batting behind a relatively fast .350 type leadoff hitter, followed up by the now-proverbial Thome-Konerko-Dye, I don't mind that at all.
  2. lostfan

    White Sox Acquire Nick Swisher from Athletics

    Swisher would be the slowest leadoff hitter I've seen in recent memory. In a lineup without Owens, why on earth would you not lead Cabrera off and have Swisher bat second? It would make no sense whatsoever and it's not like anything is lost by having Swisher at the second spot in the order. This isn't like the 3rd and 4th spots in the order where there isn't much difference between which power hitter you have there.
  3. lostfan

    White Sox Acquire Nick Swisher from Athletics

    QUOTE(Vance Law @ Jan 4, 2008 -> 11:17 AM) Not a personal attack or anything. Just illustrating my point that people will hyper-focus on the question marks surrounding our team (our rotation in this case) and the COMPLETELY GIVE A PASS to other teams with the same or similar ????s. Chisoxfn pointed out how Bonderman's stuff is great but admitted his performance hasn't measured up. If Bonderman were on the Sox all these years putting up the EXACT same performance, a majority of people here would have been calling for his head by his second season (and probably his first). "He's worthless, sell him for a bag of balls, he's a head case, I don't give a crap about STUFF if you can't get hitters out," etc, etc, etc. And that's just Bonderman. That's not even mentioning their 3-5 starters. I do not think Bonderman will ever be any more than he is. Meaning on Monday he's a #3, on Wednesday he's a #1, on next Tuesday he's David Aardsma. He's got a plenty big sample size now, and a pattern established, and if he hasn't developed this elusive "consistency" people say he needs by now after... what... 5 years, he's just not going to. He will always have nasty stuff, but if he ever puts it all together I'll be surprised.
  4. lostfan

    White Sox Acquire Nick Swisher from Athletics

    Detroit did pretty much mortgage their future for Cabrera though, but their GM has been money in the draft so if I was a Tiger fan I wouldn't worry too much.
  5. lostfan

    Who likes the Swisher trade?

    QUOTE(beck72 @ Jan 4, 2008 -> 10:43 AM) KW has "gutted" a farm system that hadn't produced like it should have. So that isn't that big a deal IMO. Instead, KW has brought in young major league talent at the expense of the unproductive farm system. Where KW has made mistakes is not holding the farm system and all the scouts accountable. Or if he was responsible for some of the mistakes made, not owning up to them. Honestly, if the scouting and player development problems are fixed without damaging the MLB team (meaning we do not see another team like the 2007 White Sox for a long while) I'll completely forgive KW and take back all my b****ing over the last couple of years. If all goes well, we really shouldn't notice the nearly complete and total absence of a farm system. However if we are still having players who have been playing professional baseball for 3 years or more in our organization getting called up to MLB and not knowing how to place a bunt, I'll be pissed.
  6. lostfan

    Who likes the Swisher trade?

    BTW I voted yes for the trade, although I hate the fact that our rotation still has a gaping hole in it. But at least another gaping hole is solved, and for the long-term, and at a reasonable cost (e.g. not for the silly price Hunter got). I didn't expect this team to be completely fixed in one offseason, though.
  7. lostfan

    Who likes the Swisher trade?

    QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 4, 2008 -> 09:22 AM) Think about this for a second. KW has basically turned his player development and scouting staff upside down in the past year - he is starting over. If those things result in positive change, it will take a few years, as they draft and develop better talent. So what does that system need to do that? Time. And these younger players who now will be a large chunk of the 25-man roster gives the team exactly that. Time to get the system up and running in its new model. The scouting and player development has been the achilles' heel of this team. I guess it looks a little unorthodox at first and I was wondering how KW was going to overhaul our previously horrible scouting dept but it does kind of make sense. I really didn't expect him to completely (and I mean completely) gut our farm system though. I'd said something in the Swisher thread about the MLB roster being steady for the next couple of years while the bare cupboard down in the minors is replenished with (hopefully) better players as a result of better drafts, so that the farm system could end up stronger if it works out the right way. The way you said it is a lot more thorough though. In the meantime, the MLB roster isn't embarrassing like it was when we entered the offseason, and with a little luck the team could even be contenders.
  8. lostfan

    White Sox Acquire Nick Swisher from Athletics

    Detroit's 2008 lineup, barring major injuries, might even be better than ours was in 2006. That lineup won us 90 games.
  9. lostfan

    White Sox Acquire Nick Swisher from Athletics

    I haven't read all 34 pages of this thread but I imagine somewhere in here, someone had to say "wow we have quite literally NO farm system right now." Although we didn't have much of anything before. I guess as of right now, pending a little luck and possibly a Uribe, Crede, or even Konerko trade the MLB roster is steady enough to last a couple of years while the allegedly-fixed scouting dept. can re-do some of the really bad drafts we've had over the past few years. Keeping my fingers crossed, I was pretty pessimistic a few weeks ago but it's not implausible to think this org. can get back in shape.
  10. lostfan

    White Sox Acquire Nick Swisher from Athletics

    QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jan 4, 2008 -> 02:50 AM) Also, if it makes anyone feel better, I completely feel that the Tigers rotation is way over-rated. I used to have a really hard time convincing Tigers fans of this but some of them are finally coming around. They have as many question marks in their rotation than we do, honestly.
  11. If this works out I will send KW a thank you note with an apology for me being pissed off at him a couple of weeks ago.
  12. lostfan

    FireKennyWilliams.com

    QUOTE(chiguy79 @ Dec 13, 2007 -> 01:15 PM) Agree 110% Red Sox fans are terrible now...rank as most annoying fans in the country. They are also Patriots fans, and the same rule applies.
  13. lostfan

    FireKennyWilliams.com

    QUOTE(max power @ Dec 13, 2007 -> 10:11 AM) I think the cubs fans are known for complaining a lot, including booing their own team but still showing up. Not never complaining. All the ones I know complain a lot. Yeah I think the stereotype of them being content to lose and never complaining is obsolete now. They won't admit it, but since '05 that hasn't been the same. They want a WS too and they're getting impatient. They were being really harsh when they realized their overrated team was choking away the first round, the booing was pretty loud. Well, that goes for the "real" Cub fans, anyway. The drunken frat boys are still what they are.
  14. lostfan

    Mark Prior

    QUOTE(CanOfCorn @ Dec 12, 2007 -> 03:33 PM) Except Moss wasn't injured, just unmotivated. The question is, would he be ok with being sent down again? Maybe if the Sox could sign him to the same type of deal the Twins gave Craig Monroe. He only gets the full $3 mil + IF he makes the club. If not, he gets a $600K buyout. I would do THAT with Prior to see what he's got. Agreed... he is not someone you want to pin hopes on and you want an easy out if it blows up in your face.
  15. lostfan

    Mark Prior

    QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Dec 12, 2007 -> 03:35 PM) Moss is a terrible comparison. For every person who was "like 'oh, I don't know if Moss is any good still, he might be a distraction,'" there was a smarter person with a memory who was "like 'remember when Moss actually cared about footbal. He was really good. I bet he cares again as soon as he puts on a Pats uni. The Pats are the team to beat again.'" Prior, meanwhile has been plagued by random injuries, finally going under the knife this year. If Prior could turn on hot and cold running awesome like Moss, he wouldn't have spent the better part of the last 3 seasons throwing towels in Iowa. Sure he might recover, but a recovery is far less likely than Randy Moss being interested in catching touchdowns and breaking records for the best team football has ever seen. There were a good number of people that thought Moss had lost his ability as an elite receiver and it went past motivation... but that's neither here nor there.
  16. lostfan

    NOOOOOOOOOOO!!

    So that's my bad, guys, and I got Halle Berry pregnant too... I'm on a roll this year but I'll be more careful next time
  17. lostfan

    Mark Prior

    You know what this kind of reminds me of... when the Patriots got Randy Moss people were like "oh, I don't know if Moss is any good still, he might be a distraction" and well we see how that worked out. It was a low-risk, high-reward kind of deal that worked out. Given the price, this could work out that way. Obviously the name Mark Prior makes me chuckle every time I read it, but if in fact everyone was wrong about him and he really did have shoulder issues fixed by the surgery, you could end up with a dominant pitcher. Nobody's ever doubted his actual (or maybe theoretical?) ability to pitch. The downside... you end up signing the same old Mark Prior, and you will get laughed at for doing it.
  18. lostfan

    Pablo

    I notice there's a lot of people down on Richar, with the Sox' recent track record developing young talent that doesn't surprise me. I saw quite a bit of potential in Richar's bat and after a shaky start, he was playing excellent defense. He's gonna be really good with patience... and if he loses playing time to Uribe I'm gonna be pissed. Actually I'll be kind of worried if Uribe doesn't get dealt before the season starts, because I just can't shake the feeling that Ozzie will be tempted to play Uribe if he's there.
  19. lostfan

    What's wrong with Kenny Williams?

    I don't think anything is "wrong" with Kenny Williams per se. I think he's just an average GM who caught lightning in a bottle in 2005 when the entire pitching staff pitched out of their minds, and it took a while for it to catch up with him. And also just plain bad luck plays a role.
  20. I kind of like Danks, his stuff, the way he goes after hitters and stays composed... I dunno, maybe I'm the only one left. His pitching style was influenced by Buehrle, although obviously he doesn't have the stuff of a Buehrle. And for the first half of the year his numbers were affected by the bizarrely pathetic defense he was getting. But... yeah too many homers. And that's why he's still a back-of-the-rotation pitcher. If he can work that out he'll be really good... but that's not something you can just fix overnight.
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