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  1. lostfan

    Who likes the Swisher trade?

    QUOTE(beck72 @ Jan 4, 2008 -> 10:43 AM) KW has "gutted" a farm system that hadn't produced like it should have. So that isn't that big a deal IMO. Instead, KW has brought in young major league talent at the expense of the unproductive farm system. Where KW has made mistakes is not holding the farm system and all the scouts accountable. Or if he was responsible for some of the mistakes made, not owning up to them. Honestly, if the scouting and player development problems are fixed without damaging the MLB team (meaning we do not see another team like the 2007 White Sox for a long while) I'll completely forgive KW and take back all my b****ing over the last couple of years. If all goes well, we really shouldn't notice the nearly complete and total absence of a farm system. However if we are still having players who have been playing professional baseball for 3 years or more in our organization getting called up to MLB and not knowing how to place a bunt, I'll be pissed.
  2. lostfan

    Who likes the Swisher trade?

    BTW I voted yes for the trade, although I hate the fact that our rotation still has a gaping hole in it. But at least another gaping hole is solved, and for the long-term, and at a reasonable cost (e.g. not for the silly price Hunter got). I didn't expect this team to be completely fixed in one offseason, though.
  3. lostfan

    Who likes the Swisher trade?

    QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 4, 2008 -> 09:22 AM) Think about this for a second. KW has basically turned his player development and scouting staff upside down in the past year - he is starting over. If those things result in positive change, it will take a few years, as they draft and develop better talent. So what does that system need to do that? Time. And these younger players who now will be a large chunk of the 25-man roster gives the team exactly that. Time to get the system up and running in its new model. The scouting and player development has been the achilles' heel of this team. I guess it looks a little unorthodox at first and I was wondering how KW was going to overhaul our previously horrible scouting dept but it does kind of make sense. I really didn't expect him to completely (and I mean completely) gut our farm system though. I'd said something in the Swisher thread about the MLB roster being steady for the next couple of years while the bare cupboard down in the minors is replenished with (hopefully) better players as a result of better drafts, so that the farm system could end up stronger if it works out the right way. The way you said it is a lot more thorough though. In the meantime, the MLB roster isn't embarrassing like it was when we entered the offseason, and with a little luck the team could even be contenders.
  4. lostfan

    White Sox Acquire Nick Swisher from Athletics

    Detroit's 2008 lineup, barring major injuries, might even be better than ours was in 2006. That lineup won us 90 games.
  5. lostfan

    White Sox Acquire Nick Swisher from Athletics

    I haven't read all 34 pages of this thread but I imagine somewhere in here, someone had to say "wow we have quite literally NO farm system right now." Although we didn't have much of anything before. I guess as of right now, pending a little luck and possibly a Uribe, Crede, or even Konerko trade the MLB roster is steady enough to last a couple of years while the allegedly-fixed scouting dept. can re-do some of the really bad drafts we've had over the past few years. Keeping my fingers crossed, I was pretty pessimistic a few weeks ago but it's not implausible to think this org. can get back in shape.
  6. lostfan

    White Sox Acquire Nick Swisher from Athletics

    QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jan 4, 2008 -> 02:50 AM) Also, if it makes anyone feel better, I completely feel that the Tigers rotation is way over-rated. I used to have a really hard time convincing Tigers fans of this but some of them are finally coming around. They have as many question marks in their rotation than we do, honestly.
  7. If this works out I will send KW a thank you note with an apology for me being pissed off at him a couple of weeks ago.
  8. lostfan

    FireKennyWilliams.com

    QUOTE(chiguy79 @ Dec 13, 2007 -> 01:15 PM) Agree 110% Red Sox fans are terrible now...rank as most annoying fans in the country. They are also Patriots fans, and the same rule applies.
  9. lostfan

    Steroids, HGH, and the HOF

    Meh there's really nothing you can do. Hell, you just named a pitcher and a hitter, if both of them have the same advantage, does it matter anymore? You can't really delete records or anything, there's so many. You just have to be aware of the caveat that there was a decade-plus period (at least) where everyone was juicing and consider that for all the stats coming from that era. BTW Bonds was already easily a legit first-ballot HOFer before he became the incredible hulk.
  10. lostfan

    FireKennyWilliams.com

    QUOTE(max power @ Dec 13, 2007 -> 10:11 AM) I think the cubs fans are known for complaining a lot, including booing their own team but still showing up. Not never complaining. All the ones I know complain a lot. Yeah I think the stereotype of them being content to lose and never complaining is obsolete now. They won't admit it, but since '05 that hasn't been the same. They want a WS too and they're getting impatient. They were being really harsh when they realized their overrated team was choking away the first round, the booing was pretty loud. Well, that goes for the "real" Cub fans, anyway. The drunken frat boys are still what they are.
  11. lostfan

    Which AL Central lineup to you fear more?

    QUOTE(jenks45monster @ Dec 12, 2007 -> 03:38 PM) Indians dont even come near the Tigers on paper. Theyve got the whole package. Defense, speed to an extent, veterans, veteran pitching, power, a bullpen, and a great backstop in Pudge. Outside of Verlander, the rest of their rotation has a lot of question marks. I am not at all sold on Bonderman, who you don't know from day to day whether he is a #1 or a #5. And Todd Jones is still their closer. I'd be surprised if they didn't develop some holes on that staff.
  12. lostfan

    Mark Prior

    QUOTE(CanOfCorn @ Dec 12, 2007 -> 03:33 PM) Except Moss wasn't injured, just unmotivated. The question is, would he be ok with being sent down again? Maybe if the Sox could sign him to the same type of deal the Twins gave Craig Monroe. He only gets the full $3 mil + IF he makes the club. If not, he gets a $600K buyout. I would do THAT with Prior to see what he's got. Agreed... he is not someone you want to pin hopes on and you want an easy out if it blows up in your face.
  13. lostfan

    Mark Prior

    QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Dec 12, 2007 -> 03:35 PM) Moss is a terrible comparison. For every person who was "like 'oh, I don't know if Moss is any good still, he might be a distraction,'" there was a smarter person with a memory who was "like 'remember when Moss actually cared about footbal. He was really good. I bet he cares again as soon as he puts on a Pats uni. The Pats are the team to beat again.'" Prior, meanwhile has been plagued by random injuries, finally going under the knife this year. If Prior could turn on hot and cold running awesome like Moss, he wouldn't have spent the better part of the last 3 seasons throwing towels in Iowa. Sure he might recover, but a recovery is far less likely than Randy Moss being interested in catching touchdowns and breaking records for the best team football has ever seen. There were a good number of people that thought Moss had lost his ability as an elite receiver and it went past motivation... but that's neither here nor there.
  14. lostfan

    Fukudome to the Cubs

    QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Dec 12, 2007 -> 03:29 PM) People conviently forget their White Sox history when they talk about melting things down. People STILL talk about the strike year and the White Flag trade. There were people who literally didn't go to games for 10+ years because of those incidents. Yeah I was one of those people, actually it was the strike, I only have blurry memories of the White Flag trade. I didn't start watching baseball again until like 1999, I finally caved in because I was tired of watching the Bears lose
  15. lostfan

    Fukudome to the Cubs

    QUOTE(CanOfCorn @ Dec 12, 2007 -> 03:28 PM) As would most people on this board. But, the game isn't played on paper. And this team hasn't played one game in 2008. Shoot, we're not even IN 2008. I know, and I didn't expect the disaster that was 2007 to be rectified in one year. And Crede and Uribe still have to be traded. But there's just still so much to be done to make this team a legit WS contender and it doesn't seem like it's happening fast enough... juggernaut Tigers in the division and Liriano's return notwithstanding. I'm really keeping my fingers crossed on all of the young players playing to their full potential at once because that's probably the best shot this team has right now.
  16. lostfan

    NOOOOOOOOOOO!!

    So that's my bad, guys, and I got Halle Berry pregnant too... I'm on a roll this year but I'll be more careful next time
  17. lostfan

    Fukudome to the Cubs

    QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Dec 12, 2007 -> 03:22 PM) The end result was a 2005 World Series championship. Yeah, and that was absolutely great. Unfortunately I just looked at my calendar and it's 2007, and I'm thinking we have a .500 team right now. I don't know about you but I'd kind of like to experience 2005 again someday.
  18. lostfan

    Fukudome to the Cubs

    QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Dec 12, 2007 -> 03:11 PM) Its insane to hold someone's work ethic against them. I'm not holding anybody's work ethic against anybody. In fact TBH I could care less about the work ethic of Kenny Williams, Jerry Angelo, or John Paxson. I only care about the end result and right now, I can't be too optimistic, because I (and many others) haven't seen too much of anything. I used to think KW was a genius, now, not so much. There is a pretty lengthy thread about that so I'm not going to comment too much further.
  19. lostfan

    Mark Prior

    You know what this kind of reminds me of... when the Patriots got Randy Moss people were like "oh, I don't know if Moss is any good still, he might be a distraction" and well we see how that worked out. It was a low-risk, high-reward kind of deal that worked out. Given the price, this could work out that way. Obviously the name Mark Prior makes me chuckle every time I read it, but if in fact everyone was wrong about him and he really did have shoulder issues fixed by the surgery, you could end up with a dominant pitcher. Nobody's ever doubted his actual (or maybe theoretical?) ability to pitch. The downside... you end up signing the same old Mark Prior, and you will get laughed at for doing it.
  20. lostfan

    Tejada dealt to the Astros

    QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Dec 12, 2007 -> 01:05 PM) I'd much prefer him in the 9 hole, but he's pretty underrated. He's also a Boras client though. He sucks bad in the leadoff spot, but he's all right when he bats 9th. Plus he is a Sox killer.
  21. lostfan

    Fukudome to the Cubs

    QUOTE(hitlesswonder @ Dec 12, 2007 -> 02:14 PM) But I am sure the Sox lineup would score more runs with a .790 OPS player in it than a .640ish OPS player in it. I didn't say anything to imply it wouldn't. But you're not going to put said .790 OPS player at the top of the lineup if he's not that fast and if his OPS is high because he hits home runs... no, you're going to bat him like 6th. If it was .790 because he hits a lot of doubles/triples and draws a ton of walks, then by all means, but I don't see anybody like that. You need a reliable presence at the top to fill that role or you're gonna fall flat when the bats cool off.
  22. lostfan

    Which AL Central lineup to you fear more?

    QUOTE(LukeGofannon @ Dec 12, 2007 -> 02:05 PM) Granderson was 6th in the AL in strikeouts last year....Not that they mean anything but he hardly cut down on them I think I said that wrong... he went down from 174(!) to 141 which is still a lot, but what I was getting at was the fact that he needed to start making better contact, which he did.
  23. lostfan

    Fukudome to the Cubs

    QUOTE(hitlesswonder @ Dec 12, 2007 -> 01:58 PM) That's right -- I don't see how CF could be anyone but Owens/Crisp/Pierre. Otherwise the Sox would have no leadoff hitter! That's why the Sox need to put a .650 OPS player into CF rather than a .790 OPS player I think OPS (and SLG% by extension) is an overrated stat for leadoff hitters especially if you have enough power elsewhere. It's not completely unimportant because doubles really matter, and because obviously batting yourself in is a lot more reliable than relying on the heart of the order to do it, but not everybody can have a Granderson or Soriano there. OBP and speed is what matters most. Owens def. has speed but not so much OBP, at least he has yet to show it. My main beef with having Owens in CF is his arm, he throws like a girl. And his defense is about average, he has great range that is negated by his bad reads. So, as an overall player, Rowand is an upgrade... but unless Fields is in the everyday lineup, Cabrera is the leadoff hitter, and I'm not sure I like that. I agree with the poster above that said a Rowand signing would have to have an accompanying trade.
  24. lostfan

    Pablo

    I notice there's a lot of people down on Richar, with the Sox' recent track record developing young talent that doesn't surprise me. I saw quite a bit of potential in Richar's bat and after a shaky start, he was playing excellent defense. He's gonna be really good with patience... and if he loses playing time to Uribe I'm gonna be pissed. Actually I'll be kind of worried if Uribe doesn't get dealt before the season starts, because I just can't shake the feeling that Ozzie will be tempted to play Uribe if he's there.
  25. lostfan

    Which AL Central lineup to you fear more?

    QUOTE(Vance Law @ Dec 12, 2007 -> 01:43 PM) Granderson hit a silly # of triples- I just don't see that again. If Granderson = Sizemore, a 50 point drop in OPS is not surprising. Players have good years and great years. Beltran's .878 OPS last year is quite good, but it was a 100 point drop from the year before. Ok, I'll buy that. In A-Rod's "bad" 2004, he had a .887 OPS, so many players wish they could sniff a OPS that high in their best years. But, while Granderson's numbers may or may not go down, I don't think his impact/contribution to the Tigers lineup is going to necessarily be weaker.
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