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QUOTE (GREEDY @ Nov 14, 2016 -> 12:41 PM) Sure, that is right. But that isn't what I'm saying. I have a premium seat that sells for over $60 to virtually every game thanks to dynamic pricing. And that is a new development. Up until a few years ago that seat was either sold to season ticket holders for $45 (minus a slight % off type discount) or then sold the day they went onsale for that same $45. Now, thanks to dynamic pricing the Sox can either sell it for $45 to me for every game or sell them on ticketmaster for more. So I'm just pointing out that it would make sense that the Sox would want closer to what the ticket is worth, even from people buying 81 games at a time. the smart money is to get the 81 game sale. they have kept prices flat for four years. why the change when it looks like payroll is going to get slashed hard?

QUOTE (GREEDY @ Nov 14, 2016 -> 11:14 AM) I think the new "Dynamic Pricing" that teams are using to ask more for seats leading up to game day is supporting a raise in the cost of Season Tickets. My full seasons are in the $45 per ticket range (I don't watch it too close) and I'm pretty sure I've never seen them for less than $60 + fees on Ticketmaster.... and if the tickets became in real demand they cost $90+. but the lure of a season package, even as small as 7 games, is to "lock in" prices below dynamic pricing. your $45 ticket is that much because you bought a 27 or 81 game package. the guy buying at the box office day of game has a much smaller commitment financially to the sox than you.

The "free patio parties" is a myth to me. I never get that, and I have to beg to get additional grinder bash tix for my toddlers There seems to be a pick and choose element to which accounts get extra s***. I did get a fan deck event, but that was. A Tuesday night in September when no one gave a s***.

QUOTE (WBWSF @ Oct 29, 2016 -> 03:16 PM) I heard that the store on 35th street, "Grandstand" has new owners. Has anybody heard anything to confirm this? Looks to be the same family. Maybe the kids took over.

QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Sep 25, 2016 -> 11:29 AM) Reality show star? You can just say you don't know who Kanye West is it would save everyone time. I know damm well who Kanye is. And he's a kardashian now.

QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Sep 25, 2016 -> 02:22 AM) Meh, they didn't cause any trouble when they got to the field, they just need to figure out that people may use the bullpen as way to get to the field and staff security there. Or maybe if someone as big as Kanye is going to show up, let the people/security know when! That place lost it's mind when he appeared. Didntheynleave the field after the reality show star left the stage? I'm guessing not.

QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Sep 25, 2016 -> 01:47 AM) Wow, Kanye surprise appearance looked like a modern Disco Demo night. Floods of people jumping over fences and in to the bullpen bar and over porta-potties to get to the stage. Security didn't even try to stop the waves of hundreds of kids charging. Ladies and gentlemen, the last concert at sox park!

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Sep 23, 2016 -> 05:04 PM) I assume they will be the same price as normal, but Ill tell you guys on Sunday. When parking goes up $10, that's a sign that prices may be jacked up.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 23, 2016 -> 11:39 PM) Renting the Cell out for concerts is a dumb idea. Sox must need the money. The state is getting most of the money(aside from the promoter and artists).

if anyone is going, find out how much they jacked up concessions, especially beer....

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Sep 23, 2016 -> 09:24 AM) I went to a Wrigley concert a few years ago and if I remember right, they didn't sell any bleacher seats because you couldn't see the stage at all. If they are selling every available seat for this show, they would easily have way more than the concerts at Wrigley. That's only 2500 seats lost. And field seating usually covers that difference. As for the sox, they took out 6800 seats. The stated capacity of 40k factors in the outfield seats. There's no way they allow 7000 people on roger bossards field two days before a game.

My wife has a graphic design background. She said that any type of financial institution using an arrow, either up or down, is a big no-no. So she wonders why GR has used one this long and why the sox thought it wasn't going to be a problem.

Aaron rowand

QUOTE (InTheDriversSeat @ Sep 22, 2016 -> 05:10 PM) For anyone who may be interested, 'Chance The Rapper's Magnificent Coloring Day!' sold out concert on Saturday will be streamed for a fee at the charged TIDAL.com website: https://www.timeout.com/chicago/blog/tidal-...festival-092016 https://listen.tidal.com/playlist/6798a834-...c4-433cc7442067 Apparently this concert will break the all time attendance record at (New) Comiskey Park / U.S. Cellular Field. I suspect that seats were sold in the outfield and bleachers behind the stage. But in order to break any records, that extra seating has to be greater than the 8 rows of upper deck seats which still existed during the 2 previous sold out concerts in 2002 and 2003. http://www.csnchicago.com/chicago-white-so...-rapper-concert . there's no way in hell this concert has more than 47k people in the park. The field seating won't compensate. Ac/D.C. Was sold out at wrigley last year and the official attendance was 29k(park holds 41k for baseball. )

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Sep 19, 2016 -> 12:58 PM) Actually the posters comment, not "rant", wasn't stupid at all. According to this Tribune article from 1993, there was a "triple decker sandwich" unique to the new Comiskey Park that was not present in the construction of Camden Yards the following year. That's because the same architects responsible for designing both ballparks gave the Orioles owners and Reinsdorf & Co. the same option - intimacy vs. revenue generation. The former chose intimacy, and therefore the "architects tucked a single tier of 75 skyboxes" between the lower and upper deck at Camden. The latter wanted more skyboxes, thus necessitating the need for a second level of skyboxes which, combined with a tier for the press box, resulted in three tiers between the lower and upper decks at the new Comiskey. Result: this decision "jacked up the upper deck by more than 30 feet (which) forced HOK to tilt the upper deck at 35 degrees to bring the jacked-up seats closer to the action." So with the Orioles choosing intimacy over revenue generation, they built an upper deck closer to the field and at a far more relaxed and comfortable angle of 31 degrees. This choice, among many other smart decisions in designing Camden Yards, led that park to being regarded as the standard bearer for well designed new ballparks during the recent era of new ballpark construction. Meanwhile Reinsdorf, who never met a franchise-crippling decision he didn't like, made the decision to try and squeeze as many suites as he possibly could into his new ballpark, choosing revenue generation over any semblance of intimacy, and in the process ended up building the infamous 29 row upper deck and its crazy 35 degree angle, with the opening to this architectural disaster at the base of the deck to boot. That decision proved to be so bad that the team would end up sawing off nine rows in 2003 simply because they were hardly ever used. Those are the facts, Ewok. The only thing "stupid" I think you'll see are the critical decisions which were made around the design and construction of the new ballpark at 35th and Shields in the late '80s by the owners of the Sox. http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1993-09...comiskey-park/3 four degrees. That'/ the difference between "cozy" angelos field and sox park. Bigwhoop. The tribune Hachet job also fails to mention the oriole's field is below street/sea level. An advantage the sox didn't have due to chicago infrastructure. But hey, what do I know? I don't read the cubune. And as for rants, the poster's "comments" included an insane belief that the sox will move a season ticket holder to the upper level without his consent.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Sep 18, 2016 -> 10:54 PM) Ewok: Just to be clear the story at the Chicago Baseball Museum was not written by me. Didn't even know it was coming until I saw it published last week. It is a fact though as the authors wrote in "Ballpark, the Building of Camden Yards" quoting the original architectural designers that they did offer JR directly the option of a Camden Yards design and he rejected it. And they wrote that it was not an associate or someone else in the organization...it was him personally. I don't think you can necessarily hold that against him. No one knew at the time that "retro-parks" would come into vogue however he did have an opportunity to do something unique and different and rejected the idea. I have heard basically the same thing from a number of folks, he wanted basically an in-house way to keep as much revenue as possible and honestly thought the Sox were going to be a "hot item" so he wanted an additional level of suites. Someone perhaps can check this but I don't think the Sox have ever sold out all of their luxury boxes have they? Mark the site also can't allow a sunken field like oriole park. The chicago infrastructure is still not in place to accommodate that. The budget had already been cut more than once(which explains the precast concrete and the sox moving away from a brick exterior), and the city didn't have the money to re-do the sewer system to allow a sunken field. As for the suites and the "sea of parking", EVERY OWNER wants that. Bill wirtz strictly forbid street hawkers after the united center was built, and to this day there is no tailgating at hawks or bulls games. Not when his son owned the concession company! Secondly, not all suites are meant as season rentals. The sox sell game day suites for every game. But they also have modified some suites for other uses. The press box is in former suite space, as is the sox war room/scouting hq.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Sep 18, 2016 -> 01:45 PM) Jerry Reinsdorf was pretty clear on the objectives of the building of the new stadium: revenue generation leading to maximum profits for the White Sox. Period. Hence, the entire cost of the building of the stadium shifted to the backs of the taxpayers, and a sweetheart lease deal that entitles the team to all of the revenue streams generated by the park but very little in associated expenses. Lip service at the time was provided suggesting an economic boost to the surrounding neighborhood, but it was just that - empty words. There was no concrete plan established to make that happen, and as we all know, it never did materialize. No, the new Comiskey Park was designed to be a one stop shopping destination for any and all discretionary spending by White Sox fans coming to watch a White Sox game. Why give a local bar owner $5 for a beer when you can give it to Jerry Reinsdorf instead, right? Like tom ricketts doesn't want that too? Or the steinbrenners? Or rocky wirtz? No matter who finances the stadium, owners want to control where you spend your money as Joe fan. Oh, as for economic development, the neighborhoods surrounding the park are littered with million dollar homes. And the stadium itself has generated over 209 million in tax Revenue since 1991. The park was financed for 168 million.

Something Liptak and the author fail to mention is that the Bess Armour Field design was NOT an official design submitted to the Sox or ISFA. It was a SABR project that was published AFTER groundbreaking for what is now known as Guaranteed Rate Field. I hate to link WSI, but they spell it out in the first paragraphs. http://whitesoxinteractive.com/FixComiskey...nversation1.htm Never mind that the Field House for Armour Square park is now under landmark protection, or that you would be displacing a public park that is continually used by residents. Or that you have to buy even more land to build parking for the stadium and surrounding development. But hey, f*** jerry and the city and state for approving a design that was actually submitted for bid review.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Sep 15, 2016 -> 09:56 PM) Would really enjoy if the next stadium blends the best aspects of Comiskey Park and The Cell, with the skyline in the background. That would be the best. Assuming they stay at the optimal location of 35th and the Dan Ryan, they will likely move on the old comiskey site, and possibly absorb some of the armour square parkland. I suspect the park will have a similar orientation as the old park.

More bs from a POS organization. They hope the next labor deal washes away thier spending spree and its resulting penalties.

QUOTE (WBWSF @ Sep 15, 2016 -> 04:54 PM) 1)The second level of those useless club level seats serves the same purpose as a level of suites. The next time you go to the park just look how different the upper deck would look if it only had one level of suites. It would have been a tremendous upper deck. 2) I'm in a 27 game package. If they change my section to a 81 game package, I could lose my tickets in my section. If the powers to be make my package where I have to sit in the upper deck I would not renew my package. How's that crack you're smoking? The sox will NOT make you go into an 81 game plan.

Also, armour field was not feasible. Look at those dimensions

QUOTE (WBWSF @ Sep 14, 2016 -> 02:38 PM) The 3 levels of suites made the upper deck what it is today. JR wanted 3 levels of suites. 1 level of suites would have made the upper deck a great place to sit. 2 levels of suites would have made the upper deck decent. 3 levels of suites has made the upper deck lousy. It has ruined the park. The 3 levels of suites was ordered by JR. It was his doing and it will be the main reason why no tears will be shed by anybody when this stadium is knocked down. The team is basically giving those upper deck tickets away and still nobody wants to sit up there. I've been a Season Ticket holder for years and if they ever move me upstairs in the upper deck, I will stop going. There are two levels of suites. Facts have a pesky way of making your rant look stupid. Also, the sox really can't "move you upstairs". They make more money from you buying lower level seats.

The problem is that most of the "cooler" premium items are limited run special ticket purchase offers. the Pippen bobblehead is limited to 1000 and you need to buy at www.whitesox.com/chicagobulls I bought the 8/27 game at the box office because the item was 10k at the gates, only to get an offer guranteeing my bobble if i buy on www.whitesox.com/starwars pick a lane, sox

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 20, 2016 -> 05:56 AM) Sure, but teams like the Mariners are earning $70 million more before the season even begins. Minimum, the White Sox would have to be in the $150 million range and probably closer to $160-165 million if they choose to spend themselves into contention (as a strategy). Thry'd have to repeat the 14-15 offseason (but actually be right on each player they targeted) in a market with 1/3rd the talent and twice as much competition. The money has always been there, accompanied by the fear of making a mistake on a big contract of over $100 million. Like it or not, that's the going rate for a middle of the order hitter in his prime. And the sox don't play in a small market like Seattle. They make more in sponsorships and corporate sales than the moroners. Not to mention the tv deal was brokered in 1998/2004. It was above average then.