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THANK CHRIST.
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On 6/26/2019 at 2:08 PM, caulfield12 said:
Masahiro Tanaka was supposedly going to get at least $120-130 million from the Sox as a young/er pitcher with TOR upside.
I guess with Cole, they will argue his velocity makes a long-term contract prohibitively dangerous after so much high leverage usage, then sign Wheeler for half that amount.
That was as a “rookie”. NPB isn’t the same as signing Keuchel.
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On 6/27/2019 at 2:39 PM, WBWSF said:
I would give JR the most memorable interview he ever had in his life. I don't know if I would get the GM job after the interview but I guarantee you that JR would not ever forget my interview.
Jerry already has morons operating his baseball team.
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On 6/27/2019 at 2:55 PM, WBWSF said:
Years ago I could have had a job with the White Sox. I couldn't take it. I had other concerns at the time. Looking back at that, I should have taken the job.I figure I could have moved up the ladder over time and would have probably become the White Sox GM.
Unless it was in the baseball operations staff, your chances to be gm were between fuck and no.
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10 hours ago, Lillian said:
There are circumstances in which providing an opt out to a player might be regarded by management, as being in the team's best interest. It can serve to keep a player more motivated, than guaranteeing his earnings, for the rest of his career. Human nature will drive a player harder to play for yet one more contract. In addition, if a team really only desires to sign a player for 4 or 5 years, but the player wants a longer contract, offering him an opt out might actually be more compatible with the team's preference. So in some cases, while the opt out may appear to be a concession to the player, it may actually be preferred by management.
Not the Sox.
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Lesser (and older) pitchers are getting paid more than him.
The cubs WILL take the option. There is no guarantee Hamels will come back, especially at a discount. They NEED a q type pitcher. Why get rid of the actual q?
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4 hours ago, soxfan2014 said:
That really wasn't my point ha.
It was more for the people doubting they would offer Cole a contract due to what he wants. Yet, they just offered more overall and a significantly higher (I'd say $8 mill per year is significant) AAV to someone just last off-season.
Sox don’t offer four year deals to outside free agent pitchers.
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39 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:
I’m not going to go through the entire season at baseball reference to compare attendance through X number of games...for the A’s and Padres...but knowing the White Sox, it only means there’s now even less incentive to make dramatic moves for Cole, Ozuna and Grandal or another starting pitcher/high leverage reliever this coming offseason. The sky hasn’t fallen, as predicted. After the botched Machado deal, some were speculating attendance would fall into the 1.35-1.4 million range, and that clearly hasn’t happened at all.
Obviously, dramatically discounting ticket prices has helped...attending Cubs’ games these days will cost you a reverse mortgage.
The Sox ticket prices have been this low since 2013. And all but one year attendance has decreased.
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5 minutes ago, soxfan2014 said:
I made a post in the game thread from yesterday just before it got closed. Someone pointed out that Cole is expecting 6 years $140 million.
As a frame of reference, that is an AAV of $23.333 mill.
Their offer to Machado of $250 million for 8 years: AAV of $31.25 mill.
But manny wanted a record breaker as well as the opt out. Things the Sox don’t do.
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23 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:
This from a month ago...
Nineteen of the 30 teams have seen their average fall from a similar point last year, with the largest drops in Toronto (6,963), San Francisco (6,463), Baltimore (3,839) and Detroit (3,686).
Large rises have taken place for Philadelphia (10,383), Oakland (4,027), San Diego (3,465) and the Chicago White Sox (2,311). The Phillies signed Bryce Harper and the Padres added Manny Machado.
And?
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20 hours ago, Kyyle23 said:
Just now on the score Joe Sheehan just said the white Sox are the third highest jump from last year to this year in attendance at 2300 more per game. And summer hasn't even started yet
There’s a ton of qualifiers on that.
Yankee and Red Sox series ON THE WEEKEND with the added benefit of good(for Chicago) weather, and a lot of giveaways. The “free shit” crowd has been out in full force this year. The second game
the second game of the year sold more tickets than opening day because everyone just had to have the hoodie.
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On 6/14/2019 at 10:55 PM, Chi Town Sox said:
Lots of “I” in your post.
Still don’t understand the comments directed at me, nobody is on a high horse nor do I need to get over myself for making a simple comment on a message board. Nobody was saying anything to you
Makes me wonder about the times when I was called out for some stupid things from Admin’s and here we are with some even more ludicrous comments...
That’s your problem.
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1 hour ago, pcq said:
There were classic rockers who did not know how to react to the whole gender bender thingy. Mostly it was regret that classic rockers felt with disco pushing more serious and substantial music out of the way. Times change. I don't recall any ethnic cleansing and most rockers loved and merged with the Motown scene. That was a great part of the 60's and 70's.
Neil young wrote a song about birds.
Music tastes are subjective.
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1 hour ago, Chi Town Sox said:
Um, OK? Do you feel better after getting that out on the internet?
Whether you agree with it or not, house music came from disco music on the South Side of Chicago, where the Sox play and where the Sox have a lot of fans. I'm not black or hispanic and I'm not even liberal but if you can't see why this would be hurtful to many Sox fans than your bolded internet tough guy comment says it all. The Chosen Few guys even had the Sox pretty close to cancelling the event all together, this week.
Personally, I don't care as much about it as you may think but just because you or Steve Dahl says it wasn't racist, doesn't mean it doesn't appear that way to others that feel disco and it's extensions was and is still a big part of their community.
It’s a theme night. Nothing more nothing less.
Get off off your high horse.
I don’t care about disco or house music. When it plays at the park I do the same thing I do when I hear country music. Ignore it. And if there is a house music night at the park? I go oh well and go back to watching the game.
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On 5/7/2019 at 8:34 PM, Lip Man 1 said:
Have read almost two / thirds of the book and it is outstanding. The research is meticulous and I found out many things about Harry I never really knew including his time in Oakland. But I writing this to provide some addition information to the Caray / Reinsdorf meeting at the 1990 All-Star Game at Wrigley Field that was brought up in this thread.
From the book, page 209:
"White Sox president Jerry Reinsdorf had spent the All-Star Game in WGN-TV's Wrigley Field Skybox as a guest of the station. According to press reports Caray walked over to Reinsdorf's table, and said- in reference to the comments Reinsdorf had addressed to Caray and Jimmy Piersall after the White Sox clinched the 1983 Western Division title - "I ought to knock you right on your ass. You called me scum." The report said WGN-TV officials quickly interceded and escorted Caray out of the Skybox."
Another interesting side story in the book. In spring training 1984 Greg Luzinski was opening his mail from the winter when he got one from Caray. Harry wrote, "Hi Greg. For a guy who was on stage before the 1983 playoffs (at the White Sox victory rally), you sure were conspicuous by your absence after them! Some of us stand out in the open and take the heat. Others, like you, hide out in the showers or in the players lounge when things get tough."
Harry was referring to the fact that Greg had been unavailable to the media after Baltimore beat the Sox (unlike Jerry Dybzinski who answered every question after his base running mistake potentially cost the Sox the game)
What a chode, that Harry is.
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6 hours ago, TBrown54 said:
I think I know what you mean about Jefferson -- he had many affairs, some probably non-consensual (or worse term for it) -- but I have no idea how "3/5" gets associated with Lincoln.
3/5 refers to the constitution, where African slaves were counted as 3/5 of a white man in the census. This allowed southern states, where the slave population was much larger than in the north, to gain more seats in the house.
As it pertains to Lincoln, he never set out to be an abolitionist, he was a preservationist. The restoration of the union was his goal, even if it meant Slavery didn’t end.
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15 hours ago, Chi Town Sox said:
Sox are sending mixed signals by celebrating this tonight and then having a Chosen Few DJ night coming up. Disco and House go hand in hand.
Oh Jesus Christ! Get over yourself.
Last night was a small commemoration of an Ill fated Sox event that gets mentioned In the baseball and rock and roll hall of fame. The 28th is a fireworks night set to music the grandkids of the disco demotion crowd like now.
The only signal is that that the Sox want you to buy tickets and watch a a ballgame. No different than game of thrones night or halfway to st Patrick’s day.
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People seem to forget that even if Harry stayed with the sox, and if the Sox were on free tv, they weren’t going to be on wgn. Bill veeck negotiated a terrible deal on uhf stations.
1984 would have happened up north and they would still be the darlings of town. Harry or not. Remember the “Sandberg game” wasn’t even on wgn. It was game of the week on nbc.
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3 minutes ago, ron883 said:
It's amazing how quickly people here forget 2005
Only when I’m hungry for meatballs
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7 hours ago, Harper2Sox said:
Yes, Ricky is terrible due to his love for the bunt and his decisions last night were awful but Ozzie loved the bunt every bit as much when he was coaching the Sox. He can talk all the BS he wants now but his actions as Sox manager were pretty much aligned with Ricky’s. They both love bunting and so does the next Sox manager, Omar Vizquel. It isn’t going to get any better my friends.
Ahem, Jim thome is the next manager. Jerry already said Jim will be a manager someday
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The tickets sold for what was game 2 was 14k.
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The first game of a doubleheader that was announced at the last minute and the weather was still crappy at the makeup start time.
Gee I wonder why was attendance so low?
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1 hour ago, Lip Man 1 said:
Even if they were losing money, JR would not be selling because of the tax hit that he would have to take given what he paid for it in 1981 and what it is worth today.
There are plenty of ways to Dodge the taxman. The tribsters used a leveraged buyout that allowed to dodge the taxes for 10 years. And the new tax laws have made cap gains a lesser issue than two years ago.
Plus , Jerry is a tax lawyer.
Lip
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On 4/27/2019 at 5:52 PM, Jake said:
The key thing is that the guy be able to be competitive. About August 1st last year, you could have called Eloy up and he'd be over a lot of the stuff he's dealing with right now. On the flip side, we moved Carson Fulmer up way too fast and he had to just struggle to survive at higher levels. It is to be determined whether Carson will ever recover (and we'll never know what he would have done with a slower pace through the minors). Gordon Beckham is another example of a guy who got up here too quick and was at too high of a level to deal with the big picture problems he had.
Dylan Cease I presume would be okay getting up here and pitching because he's done so well at the higher levels he's pitched at. He maybe hasn't gotten every last ounce of development out of AAA just yet but nowadays if a pitcher can hang in MLB there's no use letting him use up whatever's left of his ligaments in the minors.
In retrospect, considering they gave him an eight year extension, the sox would have been better to call him up last august to draw some buzz in the fanbase and box office, and for him to get used to life in the bigs. and THEN extend him in the winter. instead, you further frustrate the fanbase and it looked like eloy was frustrated as well.
The Acceptance Phase of James Shields and Tatis Jr.
in Pale Hose Talk
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While this trade sucked, it began the rebuild.
I was past past this three years ago.
Maybe you be past it too.